wbbfan Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Noeller said: Just keeps hanging around. Clearly he isn’t a fraction of what he used to be and they don’t and can’t trust him to start. Never liked him as a player love him in the booth. Kind of an odd situation. I feel kinda sad for him. All the heart and desire, used to be a star qb and he just keeps trying to recapture the past glory. 19 minutes ago, Noeller said: he is truly awful, but he's basically the same guy as Prukop. If for some reason Prukop doesn't come back, then he could be the short yardage specialist..... but he's not a guy that's ever going to be a starting QB of ANY quality in this league. yeah pretty much. If it’s prukop type money and his role it’s fine I guess. Suitor would be soo torn about drooling over him. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Cornelius in the Prukopp role might be ok but not really a fan at all. BLM will be great in the booth when he retires. Bigblue204, wbbfan, HardCoreBlue and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 4 hours ago, wbbfan said: Doesn’t matter where they come from lmao a teams ability to use a guy doesn’t change if he sits on another teams pr before he’s signed, or plays some place else first. Shake your goofy head. Ugh... Dunbar was released. I posted he'd be adequate replacement should Schoen leave. Someone else said, they'd rather the team went with a pure rookie/rookie type of money contract. I disagreed saying the club has not been great at bringing in rookie WRs who produce immediately. You chimed in, talking about wrs the bombers signed in FA (which is exactly what I want them to do) thinking you were disproving a point I made. However, you actually confirmed what I was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, rebusrankin said: Cornelius in the Prukopp role might be ok but not really a fan at all. BLM will be great in the booth when he retires. Very pointed up side in that move imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedawg Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Noeller said: he is truly awful, but he's basically the same guy as Prukop. If for some reason Prukop doesn't come back, then he could be the short yardage specialist..... but he's not a guy that's ever going to be a starting QB of ANY quality in this league. This is giving Prukop too much credit. Even though Cornelius has struggled with his mental processing in the CFL, he's much more talented as a passer. He has a very strong arm and has flashed capable starter ability at times. Prukop, on the other hand, scares me when doing anything but running a QB sneak. If we could upgrade from Prukop to Corn as the short yardage backup, that would be a win. Especially if Buck can get something out of him that Chris Jones couldn't. Stickem and Fatty Liver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 5 Author Report Share Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, bluedawg said: This is giving Prukop too much credit. Even though Cornelius has struggled with his mental processing in the CFL, he's much more talented as a passer. He has a very strong arm and has flashed capable starter ability at times. Prukop, on the other hand, scares me when doing anything but running a QB sneak. If we could upgrade from Prukop to Corn as the short yardage backup, that would be a win. Especially if Buck can get something out of him that Chris Jones couldn't. and I think this is giving Corny FAR too much credit... he's shown nothing other than a strong arm, which I couldn't care less about. Show me you can read a defense AT ALL and maybe we can talk.... but he has never been able to do that. Some of the most mind-numbingly stupid decisions made over and over again. CodyT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 25 minutes ago, Noeller said: and I think this is giving Corny FAR too much credit... he's shown nothing other than a strong arm, which I couldn't care less about. Show me you can read a defense AT ALL and maybe we can talk.... but he has never been able to do that. Some of the most mind-numbingly stupid decisions made over and over again. Never mind that a strong arm is useless if you can't hit the broad side of a barn. Noeller and wbbfan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 4 hours ago, Noeller said: So, is this the new bar for backup qbs in the CFL? A base of around $200,000 with incentives to make more. This move allows the Ti Cats to pursue Dru Brown, I'd think. Likely that Hamilton will be his destination. It would be the best team for him to sign with outside of the Bombers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 44 minutes ago, Noeller said: and I think this is giving Corny FAR too much credit... he's shown nothing other than a strong arm, which I couldn't care less about. Show me you can read a defense AT ALL and maybe we can talk.... but he has never been able to do that. Some of the most mind-numbingly stupid decisions made over and over again. Working with an OC that can teach Cornelius how to read defenses would be a huge boost to his career. Cornelius needs a coach that can help him process the info he has from being a starter in Edmonton to becoming a winner. He needs a line that will block for him. He'd get that here from our linemen. He'd get all of that here working with Buck & Zach. Cornelius sure as hell didn't get it working with Jones & McCadoo in Edmonton. Coming here would rejuvenate his career. Cornelius may have to take a pay cut though. If he's willing to learn. BigBlueFanatic and Wanna-B-Fanboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Noeller said: and I think this is giving Corny FAR too much credit... he's shown nothing other than a strong arm, which I couldn't care less about. Show me you can read a defense AT ALL and maybe we can talk.... but he has never been able to do that. Some of the most mind-numbingly stupid decisions made over and over again. He's at least as athletic as Prukop; bigger, stronger, faster. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 23 minutes ago, Jesse said: He's at least as athletic as Prukop; bigger, stronger, faster. We can rebuild him. rebusrankin, Jesse, Tracker and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 36 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: So, is this the new bar for backup qbs in the CFL? A base of around $200,000 with incentives to make more. This move allows the Ti Cats to pursue Dru Brown, I'd think. Likely that Hamilton will be his destination. It would be the best team for him to sign with outside of the Bombers. When I looked back at the 3dn reported salaries the cost of back up RBs and QBs tor most teams was stunning. 1 hour ago, Noeller said: and I think this is giving Corny FAR too much credit... he's shown nothing other than a strong arm, which I couldn't care less about. Show me you can read a defense AT ALL and maybe we can talk.... but he has never been able to do that. Some of the most mind-numbingly stupid decisions made over and over again. Strong arm, strong runner tough to bring down in the pocket but yes. Strong arm and running qb athleticism can take you far as a qb. But it won’t take you to being a great starter. 32 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Working with an OC that can teach Cornelius how to read defenses would be a huge boost to his career. Cornelius needs a coach that can help him process the info he has from being a starter in Edmonton to becoming a winner. He needs a line that will block for him. He'd get that here from our linemen. He'd get all of that here working with Buck & Zach. Cornelius sure as hell didn't get it working with Jones & McCadoo in Edmonton. Coming here would rejuvenate his career. Cornelius may have to take a pay cut though. If he's willing to learn. honestly I’m not sure you can teach a pro qb to read and run an offence. If it isn’t in the tool kit by that point I think it could very likely be he doesn’t have that strategic analytical field general mind set. I also feel the more raw talent and athleticism a qb has, the less they develop the cerebral side. You can dominate games at college and below with out that side. Corny has all that raw package stuff. That is just a notion of mine though, and even every rule has its exception. It would be very interesting to see though how corny and buck would work together. I think that challenges both of them to do and be better. Not keen on us paying big money for that though. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 Elks have signed Macleod Bethel-Thompson. rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 6 Author Report Share Posted January 6 30 minutes ago, Tracker said: Elks have signed Macleod Bethel-Thompson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Tracker said: Elks have signed Macleod Bethel-Thompson. Strange move for him to sit out the whole last year then come back. What a dumpster fire to walk into as well loool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 10 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Strange move for him to sit out the whole last year then come back. What a dumpster fire to walk into as well loool. Well not too strange if he's been shopping his services for months and hasn't had any takers. Dumpster fire looks like it was his only option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, wbbfan said: When I looked back at the 3dn reported salaries the cost of back up RBs and QBs tor most teams was stunning. Strong arm, strong runner tough to bring down in the pocket but yes. Strong arm and running qb athleticism can take you far as a qb. But it won’t take you to being a great starter. honestly I’m not sure you can teach a pro qb to read and run an offence. If it isn’t in the tool kit by that point I think it could very likely be he doesn’t have that strategic analytical field general mind set. I also feel the more raw talent and athleticism a qb has, the less they develop the cerebral side. You can dominate games at college and below with out that side. Corny has all that raw package stuff. That is just a notion of mine though, and even every rule has its exception. It would be very interesting to see though how corny and buck would work together. I think that challenges both of them to do and be better. Not keen on us paying big money for that though. Have you forgotten how far Brown has progressed since he became a Bomber in 2021? Most fans wanted to kick his ass through the goalposts after his first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, bigg jay said: Well not too strange if he's been shopping his services for months and hasn't had any takers. Dumpster fire looks like it was his only option. only option and he walks away with 500K, both sides of this equation "desperate eh?" Tracker, Noeller and bigg jay 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 4 hours ago, Noeller said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 43 minutes ago, 17to85 said: only option and he walks away with 500K, both sides of this equation "desperate eh?" 500k plus the 100k they owe Corney. 17to85, Noeller, wbbfan and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said: Looks like he's using the force now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 5 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said: Looks like he's using the force now. Heard the contract was written in Gaelic. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 (edited) So another kick in the arse for Ford....He must be mulling over asking for a trade...He feels like he's starter material in this league and has somewhat proven that....Interesting going forward in Elks land and with the signing of the 'space cadet', I think you could safely say there's a qb. controversy in edm. Edited January 6 by Stickem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 11 minutes ago, Stickem said: So another kick in the arse for Ford....He must be mulling over asking for a trade...He feels like he's starter material in this league and has somewhat proven that....Interesting going forward in Elks land and with the signing of the 'space cadet', I think you could safely say there's a qb. controversy in edm. Not a controversy at all. Jones doesn’t see Ford as the starter and went out and got one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jesse said: Not a controversy at all. Jones doesn’t see Ford as the starter and went out and got one. So they're going to keep a disenchanted qb. on the roster....cuz that's the end result of the MBT signing....I see Ford being dealt or definitely hitting the road in fa next year Edited January 6 by Stickem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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