Booch Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Moses I like...was a top 15 in us recruit out of high-school and could be a legit guy on our roster. He had basically 1 real injury and came back and had a slight cartelidge issue he played thru...prob should have got it fixed and sat 6 weeks but soldiered on. He's 4 yrs removed now from injury...and I been told by some people who have trained with him he is 100 percent looks real good..and has the urge to get back to football...could be a real score for us and man o man I hope we go Cole at SAM and have him as the DI Cole played last year and rotates reps at will and Mac and plays teams as he cuts his teeth. wbbfan, Piggy 1, BBlink and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett_c_b Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 6 hours ago, GCn20 said: I'm not even sure what 100% effort from Milt would look like at his age. Even if he did, would we even know? Love Milt but the guy is 54. Jagr is still playing pro hockey. He owns the team, but still playing. My favorite part of Milt doing this stunt was his little jab at Charles Roberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 2 minutes ago, brett_c_b said: Jagr is still playing pro hockey. He owns the team, but still playing. My favorite part of Milt doing this stunt was his little jab at Charles Roberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedawg Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 JCon and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Booch said: Moses I like...was a top 15 in us recruit out of high-school and could be a legit guy on our roster. He had basically 1 real injury and came back and had a slight cartilage issue he played thru...prob should have got it fixed and sat 6 weeks but soldiered on. He's 4 yrs removed now from injury...and I been told by some people who have trained with him he is 100 percent looks real good.. and has the urge to get back to football...could be a real score for us and man o man I hope we go Cole at SAM and have him as the DI Cole played last year and rotates reps at will and Mac and plays teams as he cuts his teeth. His CV is good enough that he is definitely worth a looksee. Edited May 8 by Tracker wbbfan and rebusrankin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 wbbfan, Noeller, Jesse and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Interesting that according to 3DN, 50k of Brady’s money is the not against the cap, promo stuff JCon, TBURGESS, Fred C Dobbs and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 10 minutes ago, Mike said: Interesting that according to 3DN, 50k of Brady’s money is the not against the cap, promo stuff That came out previously, didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 14 hours ago, Booch said: Moses I like...was a top 15 in us recruit out of high-school and could be a legit guy on our roster. He had basically 1 real injury and came back and had a slight cartelidge issue he played thru...prob should have got it fixed and sat 6 weeks but soldiered on. He's 4 yrs removed now from injury...and I been told by some people who have trained with him he is 100 percent looks real good..and has the urge to get back to football...could be a real score for us and man o man I hope we go Cole at SAM and have him as the DI Cole played last year and rotates reps at will and Mac and plays teams as he cuts his teeth. He was basically too tough for his own good. I know Saban was shocked and not happy he went un drafted, couldn’t understand how his injury grade could be soo bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Just now, wbbfan said: He was basically too tough for his own good. I know Saban was shocked and not happy he went un drafted, couldn’t understand how his injury grade could be soo bad. It affected his stats/performance...and thats all that mattered...Our gain when all said and done If you look atbhis tackle stats...yeahthey were less...but also in less games....but that stat also isnt a true indication of anyting and at times...Like Awe for intance is tackles after significant yards or first downs made... He looked defectiveas he wasnt healthy, and then as with NFL polotics...never got fair look as an undrafted guy...He will turn heads here...wish I was in the City to check out camp Stickem and wbbfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Jesse said: That came out previously, didn't it? Did it? I dunno man it’s the first day of training camp I’m blacking out from excitement HardCoreBlue, MOBomberFan, JCon and 6 others 2 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 yeah...each team has 200k or something like that to utilize outside the cap Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 6 hours ago, Booch said: yeah...each team has 200k or something like that to utilize outside the cap There is no cap to the promo money teams can give to players. Because of this, other than an accounting error there is reason for a team to go over the SMS cap. Geebrr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 9 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said: There is no cap to the promo money teams can give to players. Because of this, other than an accounting error there is reason for a team to go over the SMS cap. I'm not sure that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 9 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: I'm not sure that's true. I am pretty sure it is. But the league reviews it and the promo work has to check out. At least in the sense that you don’t make a mockery of it. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 10 hours ago, Mike said: Interesting that according to 3DN, 50k of Brady’s money is the not against the cap, promo stuff It's the dirty little SMS loophole we've used since they introduced it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTonOB Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 Got curious about the Brady thing...this from the CBA (Section 30.03 viii B): "In 2023, each Club will include in the Salary Expenditure Cap an additional $60,000 in respect of Non-Football Related Services, such as community appearances, outreach, and promotion. Starting in 2024 and continuing for every year of the collective agreement, each Club will include in the Salary Expenditure Cap an additional $110,000 in respect of those Non-Football Related Services. These special amounts will be the mandatory minimum amount for each Club and will be subject to strict audit rules. The Clubs will have sole discretion on which players shall received these payments and the amounts to each player, but in no case should these amounts be less than $60,000 per Club in 2023 or less than $110,000 per Club, per year thereafter. These amounts will be included in a player’s SPC and noted accordingly." GCJenks, JCon, Noeller and 6 others 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 5 hours ago, DTonOB said: Got curious about the Brady thing...this from the CBA (Section 30.03 viii B): "In 2023, each Club will include in the Salary Expenditure Cap an additional $60,000 in respect of Non-Football Related Services, such as community appearances, outreach, and promotion. Starting in 2024 and continuing for every year of the collective agreement, each Club will include in the Salary Expenditure Cap an additional $110,000 in respect of those Non-Football Related Services. These special amounts will be the mandatory minimum amount for each Club and will be subject to strict audit rules. The Clubs will have sole discretion on which players shall received these payments and the amounts to each player, but in no case should these amounts be less than $60,000 per Club in 2023 or less than $110,000 per Club, per year thereafter. These amounts will be included in a player’s SPC and noted accordingly." yeah I knew there was a number tied to it....just had too many for different rasons floating in my noodle..Thanks @DTonOB DTonOB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 (edited) 6 hours ago, DTonOB said: Got curious about the Brady thing...this from the CBA (Section 30.03 viii B): "In 2023, each Club will include in the Salary Expenditure Cap an additional $60,000 in respect of Non-Football Related Services, such as community appearances, outreach, and promotion. Starting in 2024 and continuing for every year of the collective agreement, each Club will include in the Salary Expenditure Cap an additional $110,000 in respect of those Non-Football Related Services. These special amounts will be the mandatory minimum amount for each Club and will be subject to strict audit rules. The Clubs will have sole discretion on which players shall received these payments and the amounts to each player, but in no case should these amounts be less than $60,000 per Club in 2023 or less than $110,000 per Club, per year thereafter. These amounts will be included in a player’s SPC and noted accordingly." So it does count against the SMS then from what I interpret above. If so, holy crap there is a lot of media getting this wrong. Or is it an extra 110k over the SMS spending but subject to extra audit? Edited May 9 by GCn20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 3 minutes ago, GCn20 said: So it does count against the SMS then from what I interpret above. If so, holy crap there is a lot of media getting this wrong. Or is it an extra 110k over the SMS spending but subject to extra audit? its above and beyond...exempt from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Booch said: its above and beyond...exempt from OK...and it appears there is a floor for the spending but no upper limit. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCJenks Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 2 minutes ago, GCn20 said: OK...and it appears there is a floor for the spending but no upper limit. This is the part that is so weird to me, a floor set for spending on this, in a league that tries to control all spending to make things "fair". I wonder if such an amount exists for the Ops groups and not just players cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 4 minutes ago, GCn20 said: OK...and it appears there is a floor for the spending but no upper limit. I think it’s a one contract thing. 60k base and ceiling that goes up to 60k floor and 100k ceiling next year. I don’t think you can tack as many of those on top of who Evers contract as you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 6 minutes ago, wbbfan said: I think it’s a one contract thing. 60k base and ceiling that goes up to 60k floor and 100k ceiling next year. I don’t think you can tack as many of those on top of who Evers contract as you want. I’m pretty sure there is a set amount per appearance and your number of appearances has to reflect that number. So, while there is no cap on it , the math has to work out. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 5 minutes ago, Geebrr said: I’m pretty sure there is a set amount per appearance and your number of appearances has to reflect that number. So, while there is no cap on it , the math has to work out. If that is the case how were the Argos expected to justify giving Chad Kelly 100k in promo money? Thats alot to give to one player. How many appearances was he expected to make? Noeller and GCJenks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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