Rich Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Super Duper Negatron said: Anyone have a link to a site with CFL stats before 2016? cfl.ca only goes back that far and nobody his sniffed 1500 yards rushing in that time frame. Harris was the closest, but not that close. This site has historical stats. Probably not in the easiest format for you to pull from though. https://stats.cfldb.ca johnzo and Super Duper Negatron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Rich said: This site has historical stats. Probably not in the easiest format for you to pull from though. https://stats.cfldb.ca Found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_Football_League_annual_rushing_leaders In 15 years, Cornish once and Reynolds once. The year Cornish did it, he was MOP. JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted October 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said: Found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_Football_League_annual_rushing_leaders In 15 years, Cornish once and Reynolds once. The year Cornish did it, he was MOP. It's been 10 years since ANY RB hit 1,500. Put some respect on Oliveira's name. Tracker, Noeller, HardCoreBlue and 6 others 1 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Stats Crew: https://www.statscrew.com/football/l-CFL JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 50 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said: Anyone have a link to a site with CFL stats before 2016? cfl.ca only goes back that far and nobody his sniffed 1500 yards rushing in that time frame. Harris was the closest, but not that close. The last time someone did it was in 2013 - Jon Cornish. A ridiculous 1800+ rushing yards. So .. it's been a decade since anyone has come close to Brady's numbers. With that said, the running game was much more prominent a decade ago. Top running backs were all hovering around that 1500 yard mark. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, voodoochylde said: The last time someone did it was in 2013 - Jon Cornish. A ridiculous 1800+ rushing yards. So .. it's been a decade since anyone has come close to Brady's numbers. Let's not forget his 500 receiving yards and league leading 13 TDs. Noeller, GCJenks, Pepper_Brooks and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted October 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, voodoochylde said: The last time someone did it was in 2013 - Jon Cornish. A ridiculous 1800+ rushing yards. So .. it's been a decade since anyone has come close to Brady's numbers. With that said, the running game was much more prominent a decade ago. Top running backs were all hovering around that 1500 yard mark. And, BO is in his second season as a starter. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Jesse said: Let's not forget his 500 receiving yards and league leading 13 TDs. By every metric, Brady has had the more exceptional season. Objectively, he did more to help his team be successful than any other MOP nominee. You take Kelly out of the Toronto offense, they still won games and still managed great field position in every contest they were in. You take Brady off the Bombers, do we win the close games? Do we grind out wins? Chances are, no. JCon, HardCoreBlue, ddanger and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper_Brooks Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 The award is for the Most OUTSTANDING Player. Kelly has performed exceptionally well as a first-year starter, but he hasn't quite reached the level of "outstanding". I can't recall any truly exceptional individual plays, highlight-reel throws, or remarkable sack evasions from him. Zach Collaros is undeniably an outstanding QB. Nathan Rourke was unquestionably outstanding last year. Chad Kelly took over the reigning Grey Cup Champion squad and has kept them performing consistently. On the other hand, Brady Oliveira has truly been outstanding this year. He has made numerous exceptional individual efforts, dominated in the fourth quarter, excelled in all the RB statistical categories, and amassed over 2000 yards of individual offense. He is undoubtedly the most outstanding player of the 2023 season, and he achieved this with a Canadian passport to boot. The CFL media should give him the respect he deserves. ddanger and TrueBlue4ever 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Super Duper Negatron said: Anyone have a link to a site with CFL stats before 2016? cfl.ca only goes back that far and nobody his sniffed 1500 yards rushing in that time frame. Harris was the closest, but not that close. Here is a list or every rusher who has gone over 1,500 yards in a season (tracked since 1954): 2065 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (1998) 1972 - Mike Pringle, Bal (1994) 1896 - Willie Burden, Cgy (1975) 1813 - Jon Cornish, Cgy (2013) 1794 - Earl Lunsford, Cgy (1961) 1791 - Mike Pringle, Bal (1995) 1778 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (2000) 1775 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (1997) 1769 - Robert Mimbs, Wpg (1991) 1768 - George Reed, Ssk (1965) 1733 - Willard Reaves, Wpg (1984) 1722 - Johnny Bright, Edm (1958) 1679 - Johnny Bright, Edm (1957) 1678 - David Green, Mtl (1979) 1656 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (1999) 1629 - Lovell Coleman, Cgy (1964) 1628 - Troy Davis, Ham (2004) 1624 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2005) 1609 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2006) 1581 - Jimmie Edwards, Ham (1977) 1554 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2003) 1541 - Joffrey Reynolds, Cgy (2006) 1534 - Brady Oliveira, Wpg (2023) 1527 - Mack Herron, Wpg (1972) 1522 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2004) 1520 - George Dixon, Mtl (1962) 1510 - Joe Smith, BC (2007) 1504 - Joffrey Reynolds, Cgy (2009) 1503 - Reggie Taylor, Edm (1989) Oliveira had the 23rd highest total in CFL history. And here is the list of players over 2000 yards from scrimmage in a single season since 1954: 2414 - Mike Pringle, Bal (1994) 2414 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (1998) 2207 - Robert Mimbs, Wpg (1991) 2157 - Jon Cornish, Cgy (2013) 2140 - Willard Reaves, Wpg (1984) 2127 - Willie Burden, Cgy (1975) 2111 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (2000) 2102 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2003) 2098 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2005) 2088 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (1997) 2071 - Ed Buchanan, Ssk (1964) 2039 - Hal Patterson, Mtl (1956) 2034 - Tim McCray, Ssk (1989) 2020 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2006) 2019 - Brandon Whitaker, Mtl (2011) 2018 - Terry Greer, Tor (1983) 2016 - Brady Oliveira, Wpg (2023) Oliveira had the 17th highest total in CFL history. Sard, bearpants, Jesse and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 @TrueBlue4ever good job. Now show where Kelly's passing yardage ranks alltime. Lol Booch and bearpants 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper_Brooks Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 If a random sample of 10 people from your team's city can't identify you, you should be considered ineligible for MOP. I'd bet a bottle of CC that Chad Kelly is more notable in Toronto for being Buffalo Bills legend Jim Kelly's nephew than for leading the Argos to their best ever regular season 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Lots of Americans on those lists. Not many Canadians in the modern Era *Cornish and Brady I'm curious tho... Toronto continues to win without him, can we without Brady? Edited October 31, 2023 by Goalie Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 27 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said: @TrueBlue4ever good job. Now show where Kelly's passing yardage ranks alltime. Lol and TD passes in a season lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said: @TrueBlue4ever good job. Now show where Kelly's passing yardage ranks alltime. Lol I’ll save everyone time. “TLDR” voodoochylde, WinnipegGordo and Jesse 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said: @TrueBlue4ever good job. Now show where Kelly's passing yardage ranks alltime. Lol 19 hours ago, Booch said: and TD passes in a season lol I can legitimately say this much - Only going back as far as 2016, there have been 18 QBs with more passing yards in a season than Kelly produced this year (20 if you pro-rate the 2021 season which was only 13 games), and 17 QBs with more single season TDs (18 if pro-rated to include 2021). Consider that 7 year comparison to Brady’s 70 year comparable span. Edited November 1, 2023 by TrueBlue4ever rebusrankin, Booch and WinnipegGordo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, TrueBlue4ever said: I can legitimately say this much - Only going back as far as 2016, there have been 18 QBs with more passing yards in a season than Kelly produced this year (20 if you pro-rate the 2021 season which was only 13 games), and 17 QBs with more single season TDS (18 if pro-rated to include 2019). Compare that 7 year comparison to Brady’s 70 year comparable span. So Kelly has trully been.....outstanding...hahahaha....or shall we say average?....to good? watch this....Duane Ford at around the 11:45 minute mark makes great sense...and nails the Argo thing on the head Sard, Noeller and TrueBlue4ever 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Does anyone know if there is a playoff roster freeze in the CFL? Argos picked this guy up and he was just released by the Riders 2 days ago. Would he be eligible to be on the active roster in the playoffs? I rememeber there was some talk years ago when the TiCats picked up TJ Harris but I dont recall the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said: Typical CFL event, Riders taking notes. Noeller and Tracker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said: Does anyone know if there is a playoff roster freeze in the CFL? Argos picked this guy up and he was just released by the Riders 2 days ago. Would he be eligible to be on the active roster in the playoffs? I rememeber there was some talk years ago when the TiCats picked up TJ Harris but I dont recall the details. From CFL Transactions Bombers added 3 more recently, probably just look-sees for next season. WPG ADD AMER Terry WILSON (QB) New Mexico WPG ADD AMER Ontaria WILSON (WR) Florida State WPG ADD AMER Jamal WOODS (DL) Illinois Jamal Woods 6'-2" 290 lbs. #91 looks thick and powerful, better suited to DT than DE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CUTUdihY70&ab_channel=MPHBOBO Ontaria "Pokey" Wilson WR 6'-0" 175 lbs. #80 good hands, looks smooth and fast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-hPBcW8bEY&ab_channel=Marquishimo Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 17 hours ago, Pepper_Brooks said: The award is for the Most OUTSTANDING Player. Kelly has performed exceptionally well as a first-year starter, but he hasn't quite reached the level of "outstanding". I can't recall any truly exceptional individual plays, highlight-reel throws, or remarkable sack evasions from him. Zach Collaros is undeniably an outstanding QB. Nathan Rourke was unquestionably outstanding last year. Chad Kelly took over the reigning Grey Cup Champion squad and has kept them performing consistently. On the other hand, Brady Oliveira has truly been outstanding this year. He has made numerous exceptional individual efforts, dominated in the fourth quarter, excelled in all the RB statistical categories, and amassed over 2000 yards of individual offense. He is undoubtedly the most outstanding player of the 2023 season, and he achieved this with a Canadian passport to boot. The CFL media should give him the respect he deserves. Completely agree. Kelly did his job and did it well. Nothing more. BO exceeded all expectations. 17 hours ago, voodoochylde said: By every metric, Brady has had the more exceptional season. Objectively, he did more to help his team be successful than any other MOP nominee. You take Kelly out of the Toronto offense, they still won games and still managed great field position in every contest they were in. You take Brady off the Bombers, do we win the close games? Do we grind out wins? Chances are, no. Toronto's average starting field position and number of offensive series is by far the most in the CFL, yet they squandered a lot of those opportunities with a pretty pedestrian red zone efficiency. TrueBlue4ever and Bigblue204 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Completely agree. Kelly did his job and did it well. Nothing more. BO exceeded all expectations. Toronto's average starting field position and number of offensive series is by far the most in the CFL, yet they squandered a lot of those opportunities with a pretty pedestrian red zone efficiency. wouldn't tops in the league redzone efficiency kind of indicate your QB was outstanding???....Not sure what 6th in the league indicates...definitely not outstanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 46 minutes ago, Booch said: wouldn't tops in the league redzone efficiency kind of indicate your QB was outstanding???....Not sure what 6th in the league indicates...definitely not outstanding And a weirdo and not in a good way. Being an Argo looks good on him. Jesse, Noeller and Booch 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 16 hours ago, Booch said: So Kelly has trully been.....outstanding...hahahaha....or shall we say average?....to good? watch this....Duane Ford at around the 11:45 minute mark makes great sense...and nails the Argo thing on the head I only listened for about 20 mins... but this seems like a fantastic podcast... might help that Bob was on (unless he's a regular)... and providing full league wide coverage, not just the Ticats was nice. Noeller and TrueBlue4ever 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, bearpants said: I only listened for about 20 mins... but this seems like a fantastic podcast... might help that Bob was on (unless he's a regular)... and providing full league wide coverage, not just the Ticats was nice. hit on some solid points...awards, and how it should be changed, and who/how many should vote....balancing of sched...and how Grey Cup participants from previous year should meet 2x ...solid podcast TrueBlue4ever and Noeller 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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