Mark H. Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Just can't see Trump lasting 4 years. Certainly based on what I saw yesterday. He's a clown who'll be impeached. Well - the clown wasn't supposed to win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Just now, Mark H. said: Well - the clown wasn't supposed to win... Exactly which is why he'll crash & burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 21 hours ago, Atomic said: Depends what you consider legitimate. Every news source has a conservative or liberal slant. It doesn't mean they're not legitimate, but you just have to be aware of what you're reading and how they might be shaping the information they present. NYT and Wash Post are heavily biased to be liberal. Washington Post especially is the most left-wing mainstream publication in North America. Vice is another source heavily biased to the left. In Canada, you've got the Sun chain and to a lesser extent National Post who are conservative, and then basically everyone else is liberal, some more than others. The National Post was originally intended to be conservative but these days is more towards the centre or even a little to the left depending on the day. I find them pretty balanced in general. The far-right barely exists in Canada, or at least doesn't have much of a voice. Then you have an outlet like Breitbart who is trying to achieve credibility but is basically a white nationalist publication. Or the so-called "Alt-Right". thanks for the reply... I should've clarified by "legitimate" I mean reliably accurate and credible... doesn't matter what side it comes from, I just want my news to be accurate and credible... seems hard to find these days... Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 48 minutes ago, bearpants said: doesn't matter what side it comes from, I just want my news to be accurate and credible. This is what I would like to see. left, right, centre, doesn't matter. But they all have their own sets of facts. More amazing, being an outright liar doesn't seem to mean much anymore. It's just accepted that everyone speaking in public is lying about some or all of what they're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 11 hours ago, Mark H. said: Well - the clown wasn't supposed to win... I always come back to his victory speech where he said something to the effect of working for the next "two years...or four years or more". That slip of "two years". I think he steps aside at some point, claims he's made America great and theres nothing left for him to do. He wont be impeached unless they lose control of congress which is possible as a backlash in a couple of years. Imagine him working with a Democratic majority? Yikes. But Im not sure who the Dems have as a suitable candidate in four years. I'd suspect Pence ends up President unless Trump brings him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mark F said: This is what I would like to see. left, right, centre, doesn't matter. But they all have their own sets of facts. More amazing, being an outright liar doesn't seem to mean much anymore. It's just accepted that everyone speaking in public is lying about some or all of what they're saying. That's the biggest problem... As Rickey Gervais once said (I assume he's not the first person to say this but I'll quote him anyways b/c that's the source I know) "You can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 15 hours ago, Jacquie said: I am quite familiar with Pizzagate but don't know how Podesta emails about an individual wanting to organize a Clinton fundraiser can be considered a legitimate source for conspiracy theories about a child sex/trafficking ring. 4Chan invented the conspiracy theories based on absolutely nothing. I think you're confused. I in no way believe Pizzagate is a legitimate theory. But it is just that. A theory (as you mentioned twice in this post, so I'm confused why you ever asked "what theories?"). By legitimate source, I mean it was based on real emails (which has never been denied). So, to recap, Pizzagate was a theory based on a real source... like I originally said. IMO conspiracy theories =/= fake news. Two different beasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Goalie Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: They talking about Comey or Trump or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, Goalie said: They talking about Comey or Trump or both? Sounds like Comey provided a briefing on the hacking investigation and said something that riled up Democrats. I cant believe the guy is still running the FBI after his Hilary shanking. But it sounds like Dems are going with the devil they know rather then the devil they dont. In the event Comey is replaced, Trump could replace him with someone even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 18 hours ago, Atomic said: I think you're confused. I in no way believe Pizzagate is a legitimate theory. But it is just that. A theory (as you mentioned twice in this post, so I'm confused why you ever asked "what theories?"). By legitimate source, I mean it was based on real emails (which has never been denied). So, to recap, Pizzagate was a theory based on a real source... like I originally said. IMO conspiracy theories =/= fake news. Two different beasts. The emails were real but taking words like "cheese pizza" from the emails and saying it is a code for "child pornography" does not make the emails a "legitimate source" for this wackadoodle conspiracy theory. I disagree that conspiracy theories and fake news are different beasts. They are part of the same beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Jacquie said: I disagree that conspiracy theories and fake news are different beasts. There are lots of examples of proven actual conspiracies at the highest levels of government/the military/between the wealthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 On 1/13/2017 at 10:29 AM, The Unknown Poster said: In the event Comey is replaced, Trump could replace him with someone even worse. Well, I'm a glass is half full kind of guy (have to be to witness 26 years of sheer futility and still be a Bomber fan) so maybe he will replace Comey with someone better. We shall see. I have to admit, other than J. Edgar Hoover, I couldn't name one other FBI director that I had heard of, until this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) People don't seem to realize how horrible Obama's appointments were. or Bill Clintons' before him. Billionaires, wall street cronies, hedgefund flunkies and lickspittles, and war mongers. .... Quote mask.of.sanity writes from a report via The Register: U.S. president-elect Donald Trump's freshly minted cyber tsar Rudy Giuliani runs a website so insecure that its content management system is five years out of date, unpatched and is utterly hackable. Giulianisecurity.com, the website for Giuliani's eponymous infosec consultancy firm, runs Joomla! version 3.0, released in 2012, and since found to carry 15 separate vulnerabilities. More bugs and poor secure controls abound. The Register report adds: "Some of those bugs can be potentially exploited by miscreants using basic SQL injection techniques to compromise the server. This seemingly insecure system also has a surprising number of network ports open -- from MySQL and anonymous LDAP to a very out-of-date OpenSSH 4.7 that was released in 2007. It also runs a rather old version of FreeBSD. 'You can probably break into Giuliani's server,' said Robert Graham of Errata Security. 'I know this because other FreeBSD servers in the same data center have already been broken into, tagged by hackers, or are now serving viruses. 'But that doesn't matter. There's nothing on Giuliani's server worth hacking.'" wonder if our politicos are as clueless about cyber stuff as theirs? Edited January 15, 2017 by Mark F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 People who are good at cybersecurity don't work for governments. The private sector pays way, way more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 7 hours ago, johnzo said: People who are good at cybersecurity don't work for governments. The private sector pays way, way more. I work in the school system. Some very good tech guys come to work for school divisions due to fatigue from the cutthroat, demanding nature of the private sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 On 14/01/2017 at 5:50 PM, Mark F said: People don't seem to realize how horrible Obama's appointments were. or Bill Clintons' before him. Billionaires, wall street cronies, hedgefund flunkies and lickspittles, and war mongers. Same could be said about many cabinets of both Republican and Democrat Presidents. The difference with Trump is he's nominating people who have an ax to grind with the departments they are to lead. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Jacquie said: Same could be said about many cabinets of both Republican and Democrat Presidents. The difference with Trump is he's nominating people who have an ax to grind with the departments they are to lead. that may be acceptable for a few years as the giant government bureaucracies that were created under Obama are scaled back/dismantled. The EPA was completely out of control in the US. Way too much power for an unelected body. Kind of like the UN in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 CNN Washington (CNN)Donald Trump will become president Friday with an approval rating of just 40%, according to a new CNN/ORC Poll, the lowest of any recent president and 44 points below that of President Barack Obama, the 44th president. Is this the quickest case of buyers remorse in political history? hahahahahaha Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Unknown Poster Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/breaking-apprentice-contestant-summer-zervos-files-defamation-lawsuit-against-trump/ They're going after the Apprentice tapes too. Have a great Inauguration Don! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Quote "The former member of MI6, Christopher Steele, reportedly has a high reputation in espionage circles and was stationed in Moscow 20 years ago. The New York Times is unworried by his consequent inability to travel to Moscow “to study Mr Trump’s connections there”. This is where the famed MI6 tradecraft proved so useful. Steele is said to have “hired native Russian speakers to call informants inside Russia and made surreptitious contact with his own connections in the country as well.” I didn't realize it was that ridiculous and laughable. Someone currently working in the Kremlin, is giving information about Putin/Trump to someone, who knows someone, that the Kremlin person knew twenty years ago? persona non grata in Russia for twenty years, and we're to believe that there are dumkopfs in the Kremlin spilling their guts to him! LOL!!! Edited January 18, 2017 by Mark F Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 1/15/2017 at 9:41 PM, Mark H. said: I work in the school system. Some very good tech guys come to work for school divisions due to fatigue from the cutthroat, demanding nature of the private sector. Not so sure about that one... I doubt they're very good (how would you know if they are?), and most IT jobs in the private sector are the furthest thing from cutthroat and demanding.... source: I've spent my career in IT... Rich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, Atomic said: Not so sure about that one... I doubt they're very good (how would you know if they are?), and most IT jobs in the private sector are the furthest thing from cutthroat and demanding.... source: I've spent my career in IT... A lot of jobs in IT private sector are cut throat. It seems much worse the bigger the company is. I know lots of people with horror stories from IBM / Microsoft / HP.... Winnipeg is less cut throat since most people end up moving away since the pay here is *turr-ible*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 32 minutes ago, Brandon said: A lot of jobs in IT private sector are cut throat. It seems much worse the bigger the company is. I know lots of people with horror stories from IBM / Microsoft / HP.... Winnipeg is less cut throat since most people end up moving away since the pay here is *turr-ible*. Agree the bigger the consulting company is, the worse it likely is. IBM and HP are mostly consulting services and if you are with the wrong company in a consultant role (mostly the big corporations) you are more likely to get overworked for average to mediocre pay. As long as they can bill you though, they will typically keep you employed. IT roles in Silicon Valley and startups may be considered cut throat as well, but I'm not sure those are much different then anyone trying to start a "new" business in any sector. If you work in an IT department for a company (still private sector), it typically isn't as bad. Some IT roles may still require you to work overtime or off time hours (evening / weekends) depending on whats going on or for support, but I wouldn't call that cut throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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