TrueBlue4ever Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) OK, the second segment of 6 games is now done, so who are the contenders for the Shaw CFL Awards (Schenley Award was so much cooler sounding back in the day) from the Bombers? One poster's suggestions below, happy to hear other opinions. Most Outstanding Player - The whole team has been clicking, with no real dominant performances that have carried the team repeatedly a la Milt Stegall, and different players stepping up each game. And since there is an award for defence and special teams, kind of default to offence here. I would say Andrew Harris, who was leading the league in rushing before missing the last game, but could Justin Medlock actually challenge for this award, given how clutch he has been and how many wins would be losses without his accuracy? And Weston Dressler may have something to say about this by year's end. (Most Valuable Player) - Not an official award, but maybe more appropriate for this team given that we have no dominant stats guys like a Mike Reilly, Bo Levi Mitchell, Adarius Bowman, etc. Again, Medlock has been vital to our success in close games, but can anyone deny that, pedestrian stats or not, Matt Nicholls has clearly turned this season around for us and has this offence (and defence) inspired with his fire and drive? 7-0 as a starter clinches it for me. Most Outstanding Defensive Player - Ian Wild has been a tackling machine, and Taylor Loffler brings a physical element to the safety position that has been missing. In fact, after I finished this write-up I went back and looked at Khalil Bass' stats and realized what a "quietly" outstanding season he has had (55 tackles, 3 sacks, 2 INTs, 2 forced fumbles and 1 fumble recovery), and he may be the most underrated player on that defence. But I will take Maurice Leggett for his league leading 6 interceptions from the linebacker spot. Most Outstanding Special Teams Player - With all due respect to Quincy McDuffie and Kevin "are you kidding me, another flag?" Fogg, it is Justin Medlock hands down. Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman - I have no special insight into this position, so happy to be corrected here by someone in the know, but the o-line seems to have been resurrected into a force since Travis Bond got in there. Most Outstanding Canadian - Jamaal Westerman's team leading 5 sacks put him in the running, and Taylor Loffler's overall "presence" scores him some points, but this is down to Andrew Harris. The offence was intended to be built around Harris' skill set, so the glamour position is hard to ignore. We'll see if the injury changes this outlook. (Yes, I edited this because I am an idiot and assumed kickers are Canadian for a split second. That's a paddlin' coming my way.) Most Outstanding Rookie - OK, I can't keep making Taylor Loffler second best in every category, can I? Well...... In this corner, you have Loffler's 1 sack, 2 INT's, 1 forced fumble, 5 special teams tackles, and 27 tackles (and it feels like each one of them caused an injury to an opponent), and beyond that, how many receivers hear footsteps and bail out on tough catches when he is near? But in the other corner, Kevin Fogg has 3 INT's and 1 sack, plus an astounding 58 tackles (2 off of Wild's club lead), not counting his 1 special teams tackle, plus 1 forced fumble and 1 fumble recovery. Fogg did have that one monster game in Toronto that may give me a bias, and Loffler's passport should not be discounted, but the tie breaker for me is Fogg's punt return work. He is fourth overall with 489 return yards, has a ridiculous 15.3 yard return average (second only to Chris Rainey in BC) and if his 3 TDs hadn't been called back by penalties (2 of which, and arguably all 3 had zero bearing on his returns given that he had already beaten the coverage and was clear to the end zone before the flags were thrown) he'd be leading the league in return TD's and likely return average. It's Kevin Fogg for me, and I don't think it's that razor thin a victory. Now light up the torches and bring the pitchforks. Edited September 19, 2016 by TrueBlue4ever Atomic and johnzo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Medlock is not Canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Medlock is American.......... M*V*P is a toss up between Bond and Medlock, IMO...... wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Most Outstanding Player - Andrew Harris Most Outstanding Canadian - can't really give it to anyone else but Harris if he's the MOP Most Outstanding Defensive Player - Maurice Leggett Most Outstanding Lineman - Matthias Goossen Most Outstanding Special Teams Player - Justin Medlock Most Outstanding Rookie - Taylor Loffler Taynted_Fayth and StevetheClub 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted September 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mike said: Medlock is not Canadian. Crap, I knew that too! Got lost in my processing. And maybe all of my Medlock love blinded me. I'll edit that. Sorry all. And thanks to the MBB fact-checkers and copy editors for catching that. The Regina Leader-Post may be hiring and you'd be a good fit. Edited September 19, 2016 by TrueBlue4ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Most Outstanding Player - Andrew Harris Most Outstanding Canadian - Andrew Harris Most Outstanding Defensive Player - Maurice Leggett Most Outstanding Lineman - Travis Bond Most Outstanding Special Teams Player - Justin Medlock Most Outstanding Rookie - Kevin Fogg (Loffler if Fogg isn't eligible) Blueandgold, TBURGESS and Nash00 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash00 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 9 minutes ago, sweep the leg said: Most Outstanding Player - Andrew Harris Most Outstanding Canadian - Andrew Harris Most Outstanding Defensive Player - Maurice Leggett Most Outstanding Lineman - Travis Bond Most Outstanding Special Teams Player - Justin Medlock Most Outstanding Rookie - Kevin Fogg (Loffler if Fogg isn't eligible) I was gonna post my own but they are a carbon copy of yours. I think the list will change by season's end a little but at this point that's what I would go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 MOP - Andrew Harris... honourable mention (might have something to say about it): Weston Dressler and Matt Nichols MOC - Andrew Harris... HM: Jamaal Westerman and Taylor Loffler MODP - Mo Leggett... HM: Ian Wild, Khlil Bass, Taylor Loffler, Kevin Fogg MOL: Stanley Bryant.... HM: Travis Bond, Jamarcus Hardrick MOSTP: Justin Medlock... HM: I guess Kevin Fogg but this one isn't really close MOR: Kevin Fogg... HM: Taylor Loffler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 2 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Crap, I knew that too! Got lost in my processing. And maybe all of my Medlock love blinded me. I'll edit that. Sorry all. And thanks to the MBB fact-checkers and copy editors for catching that. The Regina Leader-Post may be hiring and you'd be a good fit. This was unforgivable. Commit seppuku immediately to atone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehedra Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 I think people should put a reason why they made their selections; the OP made an amazing post with lots of points to discuss about. Those that responded put down one liners, but what makes you pick them over the runner up? Is there even a runner up in your mind. It's interesting to hear the reasons behind the picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Mike said: Most Outstanding Player - Andrew Harris Most Outstanding Canadian - can't really give it to anyone else but Harris if he's the MOP Most Outstanding Defensive Player - Maurice Leggett Most Outstanding Lineman - Matthias Goossen Most Outstanding Special Teams Player - Justin Medlock Most Outstanding Rookie - Taylor Loffler id go with this list too tho Lineman could be a coin flip with a few of our hogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Mike said: Most Outstanding Player - Andrew Harris Most Outstanding Canadian - can't really give it to anyone else but Harris if he's the MOP Most Outstanding Defensive Player - Maurice Leggett Most Outstanding Lineman - Matthias Goossen Most Outstanding Special Teams Player - Justin Medlock Most Outstanding Rookie - Taylor Loffler i am curious about this choice, please explain wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 9 hours ago, Mike said: Most Outstanding Player - Andrew Harris Most Outstanding Canadian - can't really give it to anyone else but Harris if he's the MOP Most Outstanding Defensive Player - Maurice Leggett Most Outstanding Lineman - Matthias Goossen Most Outstanding Special Teams Player - Justin Medlock Most Outstanding Rookie - Taylor Loffler I think loffler is a threat to be the teams MOC. Especially if we see split touches with flanders or harris misses more time. Goossen as MOL? hes been the weak spot of the guys that currently start. He struggles still with switches and blitz pick up. Hasnt been especially good at opening up holes or scraping to the second level in the run game. Bond should get it, I wouldnt be surprised if it went to bryant. MOP Its a hard choice. Id probably go harris too, though we saw the same level of production out of flanders. I think BLM wins. MOC harris I think the leading rusher between harris and messam wins. MODP MO Mo is deserving but I think charleston hughes gets it. MOL bond Hard to say ive watched maybe half the cfl games the bombers havent played. bond is deserving. MOSTP medlock Banks and paredes will be a threat, but medlock should get it. MOR Fogg And fogg gets it. MOR fogg. I dont see us getting more then 2 awards. I think those will be fogg and medlock as rookie and teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal optimist Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Not sure about the Bombers... but for the Riders I'd have to say... Most Outstanding Player - Chris Jones Most Outstanding Canadian - Chris Jones Most Outstanding Defensive Player - Chris Jones Most Outstanding Lineman - Chris Jones Most Outstanding Special Teams Player - Chris Jones Most Outstanding Rookie - Chris Jones Probably the biggest signing by the Riders this year. Judd, IC Khari, wbbfan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I like TB4ever's choices up to this point in the season. I'd lean towards Stanley Bryant on the OL but otherwise agree. Matt Nichols may just become the Bombers' MOP by the end of the year but Harris makes the most sense right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 MOP - gonna go with Harris. He's been the most consistent one. HM to Dressler and Moe Leggett MOC - Harris again. Just has to be. HM to Goossen and Loffler but it's Harris by a country mile MODP - has to be Mr steal your pass Moe Leggett. Really been a game changer and leads the league in Interceptions. HM to Wild the tackle machine and Jamal "held on every play" Westerman MOL - I want to say Bond but I feel Goossen has been the most consistent and has played every game. Such a huge upgrade on Picard. HM to Bond MOSTP - It's Medlock. It's not close. HM to D Jones and Garrett Waggoner who I feel are very underrated and overlooked but both have huge impact on special teams MOR- Tough one. I'd say Fogg if he's eligible. If not it's Loffler for sure. HM to Frederick tho. And I'm gonna give an HM to Thomas Mayo. Yeah he hasn't played a ton but when he has he's been pretty solid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 19 hours ago, bearpants said: MOP - Andrew Harris... honourable mention (might have something to say about it): Weston Dressler and Matt Nichols MOC - Andrew Harris... HM: Jamaal Westerman and Taylor Loffler MODP - Mo Leggett... HM: Ian Wild, Khlil Bass, Taylor Loffler, Kevin Fogg MOL: Stanley Bryant.... HM: Travis Bond, Jamarcus Hardrick MOSTP: Justin Medlock... HM: I guess Kevin Fogg but this one isn't really close MOR: Kevin Fogg... HM: Taylor Loffler 18 hours ago, Tehedra said: I think people should put a reason why they made their selections You're right, so here it goes... Harris: has been the most consistent player on offense and I basically just defaulted this award to the offense Harris: see above Leggett: he is the clearly the leader of this team on and off the field... he leads the league in INTs and has taken 3 of them back for 6... always around the ball making plays... just a straight up player... Bryant: has been the one consistent rock all year and plays the hardest position... Hardrick has been a nice spark plug and Bond has contributed nicely but Bryant is the leader on the line Medlock: Money Medlock... not much else to say Fogg: is a threat to take one back on every punt return and he's been solid at one of the hardest positions in the secondary... love Loffler too but Fogg has been too good and consistent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Ok, I'll let myself be arsed and provide some rationale: Most Outstanding Player - Matt Nicholls I don't care how good Harris, the OL, & the D are, we wouldn't be winning without the intangibles Nicholls has brought to the table. Game management, ball protection, executing the game plan, and just being a leader. Most Outstanding Canadian - Andrew Harris He has to show up somewhere on the list. Plays with grit, heart, and talent. Pass protection, running, and receiving - he's a golden ratio breaker Most Outstanding Defensive Player - Kevin Fogg He plays a difficult position and has his receiver locked down most of the time. Other players have more picks and more tackles, but they flat out don't throw the ball Fogg's way very often. Most Outstanding Lineman - Stanley Bryant The left side of the offensive line is locked down 95% of the time. You don't achieve that without a shutdown left tackle - period. Most Outstanding Special Teams Player - Justin Medlock Obvious choice - winning streak simply doesn't happen with the kicking we got last year. With a conservative offense he is often asked to make long kicks - and he delivers. He's a big part of why the conservative O game plan is working as well as it is. When you know you can get three points, you're less likely to throw risky passes or run high risk, high reward plays. Most Outstanding Rookie - Taylor Loffler A rookie - bringing fear from the safety position - impressive. Good reads, good reactions, positionally sound. MOBomberFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 On 9/19/2016 at 10:34 PM, Eternal optimist said: Not sure about the Bombers... but for the Riders I'd have to say... Most Outstanding Player - Chris Jones Most Outstanding Canadian - Chris Jones Most Outstanding Defensive Player - Chris Jones Most Outstanding Lineman - Chris Jones Most Outstanding Special Teams Player - Chris Jones Most Outstanding Rookie - Chris Jones Probably the biggest signing by the Riders this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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