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[citation needed] We are talking about an Athletic Therapist... not an orthopedic surgeon or anything too right? His job is to do non-invasive tests and then refer him to specialists. It's not going to be malpractice if he goes 'his knee is ******' and the specialist agrees, and the team allows him to trot himself out there in a huge ass knee brace to approximate the support a functioning ACL would give him. It might rise to the level of malpractice he is failed to (or incorrectly gave) give the Lachman test, and then sent him back out there with a couple strips of KT Tape or something... but obviously there was a plan, go on the 6 game, attempt to rehab, go out there in a brace and give it your best shot. Some choice quotes about this https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2025/09/05/schoens-2025-campaign-ends https://www.sportsnet.ca/cfl/article/blue-bombers-wr-dalton-schoen-out-for-season-with-torn-acl/ But I think this argument is starting to miss the forest for the trees... what is absolutely fact is that going into a crucial home-and-home series against your biggest rival, immediately after a game where your backup QB (who also was less than 1 year removed from ACL surgery) had to take significant snaps at receiver, they decided the best thing for the WR corps was trotting out someone they KNEW only had one good knee... it was mostly just dumb luck that he made it all the way to the end of the game or else we would have been seeing more of Streveler WR4 again. https://www.bluebombers.com/alain-couture/ It would be funny if a team had a page for their Head Athletic Therapist and didn't goose him up a bit "Hey this is our Athletic Therapist. He's pretty mid, but he tries his best and we love him anyways"

This was my only point... There's enough to complain about without becoming total lunatics.

SOME OF THESE RESPONSES ARE STRAIGHT FIRE, YO!

Now that's straight fire!

Jesus Christ. I know the team sucks but do we really need to complain about the practice schedule.

My dude, you are the only one who is going against what is being reported. Let's see your evidence that it was partially torn. We have one tweet from Tait saying it was torn. We have a sound bite from O'Shea saying yeah he tore it in Calgary. Not one time has the word 'partial' been uttered in the media in regards to Schoen. It follows that we should probably trust the team when they say it was ... torn

Don't join that mob.... The PA has rules about practice time.

STRAIIIIIGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTT FIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE!

I thought it was get your 'cheques for free.....I guess 'chicks' works too

Hardly...what we do...and what other teams do is rather insignificant. We used an import da spot on a fullback for 6 snaps a game....didnt see anyone else run out and replicate that move of genius

No, it's ok to trash him as a first reaction. There's probably something he deserves it for.

Like how Suits is terrible? How Straight Fire stinks?

I don't know what his stats are but Demski continues to impress/produce

Echols will go in at the very end of the season or when injuries force him to play. At no point will they give him a shot to see if he can shine.

I'm really hoping we go full spend mode this offseason... Buy as much as you can on th OL/DL...

Which was his problem last year too. He was solid when he got in last year though. Just seems odd to me the idea some people have that anyone we cut MUST go be a superstar somewhere else ornelse they are a scrub... there's a whole wide area in between... plus we already dress and play more than our own fair share of scrubs.

Yeah I think we all agree to some extent...with varying points of view Fact of matter regardless of partial...full...or he grew a third one that was dangling in the way...he was gonna go down for good...or make it worse...and just delayed his comeback date a season essentially ..and well he went down for good the first game they tried it...applaud him for wanting to but the powers that be should have thanked him but said no beueno And he was kinda gimpy...no explosion...couldn't separate...and had alligator arms...also on the pick that went back to the house...he couldn't cut and come back effectively...and yhe db jumped it...he was playing in a limited capacity OSH also has a history of playing guys Cleary not good to go...so id give him zero leeway there

Now post, but with MORE YELLING!

Well the best I can do to describe what straight fire is is have someone kick you right in the junk and wait for the feeling that incurs.

Probably not, but when the team sucks, they should probably take advantage of every practice opportunity.

nobody on the bombers had a partially torn acl this or last yr I not sure why you are so hung up on that

I have disagree about the OL when Glenn was the QB. Those lines were decent: Goodspeed, Gauthier, Khan/Picard, Sheridan, Greene, Labatte

Nah....give the man his statute...the O'Shea ammendment

Option 1A and Option 1B cannot both be always "one hit" away from being compromised which then results in sub par performance. I could not understand why this season they would use Strev as a "battering ram" or run short yardage when Wilson is healthy and helllllllluva better at short yardage. Our o-line is not great, but we've had games where the QB has had time to throw and they end up holding onto the ball and/or tossing it into triple coverage. In the old days, Glenn played behind some poop o-lines but his ability to take two steps back and rifle the ball out made a huge difference in negating the rush. With Zach + Strev it feels like they must roll out and need several seconds for a play to generate only for Zach to toss it into triple coverage or Strev dumping it down for a 6 yard pass. We used to carve up teams with quick strikes where a Demski / Lawler / Schoen would catch the ball 12 yards out in stride and then gain the extra 5 - 15 yards. It's part of the combo of why we are limping badly this year. My order of issues would be 1 - OC 2 - QB play 3 - O-line I don't think the receivers are a huge problem and clearly Brady is the only one playing at an all star level.

Kilam should have gotten his coach under control. Dinwiddie should have acted like a grown up.

When every player is a starter why bother

And your chicks for free?

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show me your receipts...I dont recall an instance where is was way out in loony tunes land yeah...when there is scheme u=issues....roster deficiencies...tackling issues....discipline issues....maybe an extra day at the job working on them us helpful?....call my crazy but does that matter tho?

There are plenty of more interesting things to complain about!

Sms is fluid and been some deviations...and no...its not all black and white..and even some of the verbiage is gray af

Regardless...rostering a gimp isnt key to success and is dumb...why handicap your roster He won't provide any...and from what it's worth...let's just say I was rold torn...from the horses mouth...not partially...torn requiring surgery I won't say what horse...but will say several in the stable

Prove it. I've had one and rehabbed by way through it. I have not heard a single shred of legitimate evidence stating it was fully torn. You posted up a tweet by Ed Tait saying his ACL was torn. Guess what? A partial tear is also referred to as a torn ACL. When I had my partial tear the doctor told me I was lucky it was not fully torn because that would require immediate surgery before the ends of the ligament shorten. So, the bullcrap you guys are trying to sell is that Alain Couture in his 23rd year with the Bombers and widely regarded as one of the best athletic therapists in his field, either misdiagnosed Schoen or committed medical malpractice by letting him play on a fully torn ACL. Contrary to the BS that you guys are selling Alain has final say on whether a player plays or not. Not MOS, not the player themselves decides that. Alain Couture is entering his 23rd season with the Winnipeg Football Club in 2025, overseeing the health and well-being of every player on the roster. Couture provides constant updates to the head coach on the health status of every player, and ultimately has the final say on whether they can return to the field after being injured.

Sort of. You have high ceiling vs high floor guys, and guys like Dru brown will always take polishing before they produce. But High floor guys do exist and are findable. Shea patterson came into the league in 21 and broke out in 24, dolegala was in one year and broke out the next. So they didn't just walk in and produce, but strev has to be able to produce. The mafia has become the Sultans of Stink. Decent, is a very long way from good. We ran a fast passing game back then with a balanced run attack, which helps the OL. Glenn, also had a fast release and elite ability to get the ball out when pressured (shovels, couple alley oops, changing arm angles, once even threw the ball with his off hand.) and blink was very similar. He was constantly met in the back field then would slip out and gain 5-7 yards. That is the most over rated OL in our history imo. They had every thing tailored to them and weren't dominant.

You had a partially torn ACL and they replaced your knee? You should have gotten a 2nd opinion

Ottawa will be interesting. Crum has played well in the last two games. Curious if Zach is back or we see Streveler again. I would like to see Echols for Mitchell.

*There ...and our problems start with the OL and get worse from there. Yes, Strev has been bad... His knee is absolutely not right. But he, as with Zach, don't have enough to work with.

Ahhh that's fair. I just feel like MBB has devolved into a place where people encourage their coaches acting like lunatics because it's anti-Osh.... Let's not allow ourselves to get to that point, regardless of what the Bombers are doing on the field.

Let's be honest, we need a massive off season overhaul which is going to involve hard decisions and saying goodbye to some long time stalwarts.

Team sport & all that rot.

My thoughts are he is old and can't go all put anymore without being totally gassed. Which is why he can leave it all out there in a Grey cup but not every week. Need more depth to keep guys fresh and able to go hard

Do any of our DL have the ability to bend and get under a tackle besides Person? Willie just backpedals or shifts over and goes for the knockdown most of the time, Vaughters doesn’t get much pressure at all and everyone else pretty much bull rushes with not much success.

Elks turned it around when they put Tre Ford on the bench

You’re crazy. You asked I answered.

The only time a Bomber got hands on him was handshakes after the game. lol sigh