Back to Back - Blue Bombers vs Riders Pre-Game Chat

[Booch]

9 minutes ago, Atomic said:

I think Weitz will come off for Cobb.

Schoen, Cobb, Houston ON

Sterns, Weitz, Mitchell OFF

So a healthy Wheatfall and Clercius...Iffy Demski....Just back from an injury he shouldn't have been playing with already Schoen and Corcoran and Cobb?...good good what a flop and failure that group is if that the case

Id say hopefully since we basically are  relegated to it see Schoen for Mitchell....Echols for Sterns, Bailey for Weitz, Cobb for Thomas, Makonzo for Kramdi...Woods for Ayers..Houston for Lawson

Edited yesterday at 03:44 PM by Booch

[rebusrankin]

7 minutes ago, Atomic said:

I think Weitz will come off for Cobb.

Schoen, Cobb, Houston ON

Sterns, Weitz, Mitchell OFF

So if you take Mitchell off, you're going Schoen/Demski/Wheatfall/Clercius/Corcoran at WR with Cobb as the back up? I'd take Mitchell over Cobb or Corcoran.

Schoen for Sterns, Cobb for Weitz, Houston for Lawson seems better to me.

[Atomic]

Yeah you're both right but I still think they're going to do what I said

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

Anybody else worried that Schoen is going to come back but he's been rushed and isn't quite right physically which is just going to cause more issues?

The study on NFL players is anyone coming off ACL isn't close to previous production until 3 years later.  Reinjury rate also crazy high (for everything hip down) and most pro football players don't make it to 3 years post ACL.

So yeah, I don't expect him to be anything like he was his first couple years and he'll have to keep working to adapt his game to the reality of where his body is.

21 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

So if you take Mitchell off, you're going Schoen/Demski/Wheatfall/Clercius/Corcoran at WR with Cobb as the back up? I'd take Mitchell over Cobb or Corcoran.

Schoen for Sterns, Cobb for Weitz, Houston for Lawson seems better to me.

I get that Mitchell is better than those Canadians, but also kind of a red herring because it's picking whether to dress a borderline useless American or borderline useless Canadian.  Mitchell is like a grenade they forgot to install the charge in.  We pulled the pin and there was no explosion. 

[Blue In BC]

52 minutes ago, Atomic said:

I think Weitz will come off for Cobb.

Schoen, Cobb, Houston ON

Sterns, Weitz, Mitchell OFF

Schoen will replace Sterns who was moved to 1 game IR. So Mitchell stays for this week. He may get bumped next week by Moore or Echols.  Houston coming on will probably mean Lawson gets bumped to PR.

Edited yesterday at 04:27 PM by Blue In BC

[Mike]

23 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said:

 

Not at all injury related, his wife went into labour. Congrats to his family.

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

The study on NFL players is anyone coming off ACL isn't close to previous production until 3 years later.  Reinjury rate also crazy high (for everything hip down) and most pro football players don't make it to 3 years post ACL.

So yeah, I don't expect him to be anything like he was his first couple years and he'll have to keep working to adapt his game to the reality of where his body is.

I get that Mitchell is better than those Canadians, but also kind of a red herring because it's picking whether to dress a borderline useless American or borderline useless Canadian.  Mitchell is like a grenade they forgot to install the charge in.  We pulled the pin and there was no explosion. 

If the three-year recovery is accurate for Shoen, then we should not be expecting great things this season and by the time the three year period is over, he will not be a spring chicken any more. As far as Mitchell is concerned, IMO he has shown very little in either catches or ability to separate himself from defenders, so it ought not be too hard to find a better replacement. He may yet have a breakout game, but right now he looks like a bust. We got troubles in River City.

[JuranBoldenRules]

However we want to characterize Makonzo's role as a key player in historically bad Chris Jones D...the guy hasn't suited up for a football game in 22 months.

He's not going to play more than 35-40 snaps in a whole game including special teams.

[TommyClements]

Schoen was invisible this year even before his injury.

[Tracker]

2 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

However we want to characterize Makonzo's role as a key player in historically bad Chris Jones D...the guy hasn't suited up for a football game in 22 months.

He's not going to play more than 35-40 snaps in a whole game including special teams.

At 5'10" and 185lb, he's gonna have to work hard.

[WinnipegGordo]

 

 

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[17to85]

Kramdi hasn't practiced all week and is only questionable... yahuh... sure thing.

Got a feeling demski gonna miss too.

[MrFreakzilla]

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Kramdi hasn't practiced all week and is only questionable... yahuh... sure thing.

Got a feeling demski gonna miss too.

Didn't Thomas miss the entire week of practice, yet still ended up playing?

[Tracker]

I think that the Rider O-line is average on their best days and vulnerable. Combine that with a brittle, possibly wounded Trevor Harris and that ought to mean that a vigorous Bomber rush will sideline Harris by halftime. If so, and Collaros plays as well as last game, we have a shot at deflating the Riders in their own playpen.

[17to85]

Collaros always has a big old bag of **** yous for the riders.

[Mark H.]

2 hours ago, Tracker said:

I think that the Rider O-line is average on their best days and vulnerable. Combine that with a brittle, possibly wounded Trevor Harris and that ought to mean that a vigorous Bomber rush will sideline Harris by halftime. If so, and Collaros plays as well as last game, we have a shot at deflating the Riders in their own playpen.

Riders OL has given up 15 sacks.  I watched their game against Montreal - they were literally pushing them around. I think our pass rush 'can' be vigorous, but many downs it is not.

But...any given Sunday!

[Atomic]

Woodbey joins the fray at Adams' expense. Officially going all-Canadian on the DL interior.

[Goalie]

I couldn’t imagine being Adams right now or any player seeing Adams out and Jake still on the roster. Must be really demoralizing. Bombers watched the film of Sask vs Calgary and said let’s not do what works. Just mind boggling stuff. 40 linebackers and 6 won’t get a defensive rep and Jake Thomas gonna be getting 80 percent of the reps on the DL.  What could go wrong here. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Goalie

[Atomic]

I'm surprised Houston didn't get on

[Goalie]

Yes. Houston shocks me. I also really don’t like Lawson Jake and schmek as the DTs. If Lawson goes down, good lord all mighty. 

[MrFreakzilla]

A lineup with Lawson Jr and Mitchell is not a good lineup.

Houston or El Dandy/Moore or Echols. I wouldn't care who they put in.

We do have a history of signing players mid season and not playing them, so I'm not surprised.

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by MrFreakzilla

[Squeakers and Skippy]

17 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said:

 

 

Shanks Lauther will save 9 to 6 points depending if the ball goes thru the end zone or its not returned out of said end zone.

[Booch]

Like the Woodbey addition...but should been at expense of another of the LB/DB's....Houton should also get his shot over the balckhole of crap we have used so far...I sure he more than ready

Adams off is pointless...dumb and leaves us with just 4 legit dline guys now...like wtf?....Osh is just a moron

Schoen i on fence with...is he gonna be just useless like he was before we effed him up rushing him in?....Corcoran already is....Mitchel not sure what going on there but looks lost and useless too...Demski...who knos if he even lasts.....wht a scrub lineup all around for one the most important games of yr so far

I hope we run a lot of WJ/Vaughters/Person fronts...some 4 man with lawson and use woodbey a lot....we use a lot of scmeck and Thomas...lord help us

Horrible lineup any way you look at it

Edited 7 hours ago by Booch

[Noeller]

Woof... You know I don't like the dogpiling about the DL, but Lawson, Schmeck and Jake as the only true DTs..... Jesus Christ. Make it make sense...