bluto Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: I’ll sum this up. Argos suck, always will, no one cares about them cuz they’re shoved down our throats due to ‘it’s the market’, no one cares about their ‘strategies’ other than some random fan (s). They’re the runt of the litter in Ontario, adorable but not taken seriously. I feel for their 3 fans who huff and puff their chests out but that’s the hand they’ve been dealt. Imagine having your dynasty broken by the runt of the litter who then goes 16-2 as an encore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, bluto said: Imagine having your dynasty broken by the runt of the litter who then goes 16-2 as an encore... Imagine believing that going 16-2 in the east is worth bragging about. Wanna-B-Fanboy, Noeller and BaconNBigBlue 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, 17to85 said: Imagine believing that going 16-2 in the east is worth bragging about. East > West this season. So... Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 41 minutes ago, bluto said: Imagine having your dynasty broken by the runt of the litter who then goes 16-2 as an encore... Imagine thinking AJ Ouelette is better than Brady Oliveira. Booch, rebusrankin and BigBlueFanatic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 All I want is one more shot at the Argos in the Grey Cup. BigBlueFanatic and bluto 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianjayhawk Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Imagine thinking AJ Ouelette is better than Brady Oliveira. Did @bluto ever say that? Just curious. I think Brady is better but AJ is pretty darn good. 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: All I want is one more shot at the Argos in the Grey Cup. Honestly, I don’t care who we would play if we made it but all I want is another GC championship! 2 hours ago, Booch said: they beat us with a QB on one leg...and a crappy kicker and then just barely while they played the game of their lives that day I agree that had ZC been more mobile that game we stood a better chance. I was sitting in the stadium watching him get sacked and holding on to the ball in the pocket way too long on occasion. It was so unlike him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, bluto said: Imagine having your dynasty broken by the runt of the litter who then goes 16-2 as an encore... 16-2 is good, but I honestly don't think the argos are going to make it to the GC, they are not going to make it out of the eastern final. Edited November 1, 2023 by Wanna-B-Fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 hours ago, bluto said: Imagine having your dynasty broken by the runt of the litter who then goes 16-2 as an encore... Imagine being an Argo fan. Yikes. Wanna-B-Fanboy and BigBlueFanatic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: Imagine being an Argo fan. Yikes. Argo fans? No such thing, I think @blutois a cfl bot who was activated to drum up an asstroturf "fanbase" for the Argos. 😁 Edited November 1, 2023 by Wanna-B-Fanboy Jesse and bluto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 I'm not afraid of the Argos, but on the same note I'm not arrogant enough to think that they are a push over and lucky to have a good win loss record. If (when) they meet up in the finals it will be a 50/50 game that will come down to who can make the big plays and who can win the turn over battle. Like F last year we have a kicker and Prukop not tossing a lame duck that game more then likely ends differently. It usually comes down to a few plays. JohnnyAbonny and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said: Argo fans? No such thing, I think @blutois a cfl bot who was activated to drum up an asstroturf "fanbase" for the Argos. 😁 8 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said: Imagine being an Argo fan. Yikes. There've been some blood curdling years... no doubt. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 ODDS TO WIN 110TH GREY CUP Team Projection Winnipeg Blue Bombers 71.03% Toronto Argonauts 20.34% Montreal Alouettes 5.08% Calgary Stampeders 1.33% BC Lions 1.24% Hamilton Tiger-Cats 0.98% Lots of talk about the Argos in this thread, here's the latest CFL.ca simulation, in case some people need reminding, we're pretty good too lol. Noeller, Jesse and BaconNBigBlue 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) One thing, and I think it's a massive mistake by the Argos, is that they completely coddled and protected Kelly from having to face any form of adversity this year. A first year starter needs to have those rough games down the stretch when the bullets are really flying. We will see how he handles the mental pressure of leading a team through the playoffs, and despite the success he had this will be his first time doing so and first year starters do NOT have a ton of success historically and it's generally because they have never seen or experienced how ratcheted up play is. Windows are smaller, time in the pocket is less, weather is colder,...just a ton of adversity you don't see in the regular season and it surprises most of them and not in a good way. It would not surprise me at all to see the Argos upset in the EF because all of a sudden Kelly is turning the ball over and then the whole thing snow balls on him. Edited November 1, 2023 by GCn20 Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBlink Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 13 hours ago, bluto said: East > West this season. So... Yeah. I would agree. 16-2 is impressive no matter which way you cut it. Argos managed to win some games where they could have easily let overconfidence get in the way. But only playing the other top teams once each and only one of those in a meaningful game makes for a questionable strength of schedule. You have to think that there would be another loss or two on the season if they played Winnipeg and BC a few more times. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, bluto said: Imagine having your dynasty broken by the runt of the litter who then goes 16-2 as an encore... Imagine nothing but tumbleweeds showing up to your stadium to watch it. Honestly, the only thing your team is worthy of is pity for having such a fickle fan base. Argo fans have absolutely nothing they should be beaking off about, as a fan base you are the embarrassment of the league. Sorry Bluto, I know you try be a good fan but cockiness is not something you guys deserve to have. Edited November 1, 2023 by GCn20 BigBlueFanatic and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Brandon said: I'm not afraid of the Argos, but on the same note I'm not arrogant enough to think that they are a push over and lucky to have a good win loss record. If (when) they meet up in the finals it will be a 50/50 game that will come down to who can make the big plays and who can win the turn over battle. Like F last year we have a kicker and Prukop not tossing a lame duck that game more then likely ends differently. It usually comes down to a few plays. No one thinks they are a push over. The only quibble is all the smoke being blown up their asses for their record with a softer than baby **** schedule. Good team, but greatest team? Hardly. The only meeting between them and the Bombers went to the Bombers. Quick someone do the Bombers record vs. Greater than .500 teams vs the argos record vs. Greater than .500 teams. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 10 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said: Imagine being the Argo fan. Yikes. Fixed that for you. Stickem and Booch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 hey at least we give hi a place to talk to other actual humans...Do they even have a board? Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Booch said: hey at least we give him a place to talk to other actual humans...Do they even have a board? Sorry, but I am still of the mindset that @bluto is just a cfl argo initiative bot. Change my mind. 😁 Edited November 1, 2023 by Wanna-B-Fanboy Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Pickle Rick said: ODDS TO WIN 110TH GREY CUP Team Projection Winnipeg Blue Bombers 71.03% Toronto Argonauts 20.34% Montreal Alouettes 5.08% Calgary Stampeders 1.33% BC Lions 1.24% Hamilton Tiger-Cats 0.98% Lots of talk about the Argos in this thread, here's the latest CFL.ca simulation, in case some people need reminding, we're pretty good too lol. Dear Football Gods, we realize that these are just projections and we take nothing for granted. Your help in the coming days is and always will be greatly appreciated. Your faithful servants, amen. johnzo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, BBlink said: I would agree. 16-2 is impressive no matter which way you cut it. Argos managed to win some games where they could have easily let overconfidence get in the way. But only playing the other top teams once each and only one of those in a meaningful game makes for a questionable strength of schedule. You have to think that there would be another loss or two on the season if they played Winnipeg and BC a few more times. This. You can't take their record away from them though. They won games and beat the teams they were scheduled to face. It doesn't matter the how or why of it but you also can't turn a blind eye to how easy they had it right out of the gate. Wanna-B-Fanboy, Noeller and JCon 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, voodoochylde said: This. You can't take their record away from them though. They won games and beat the teams they were scheduled to face. It doesn't matter the how or why of it but you also can't turn a blind eye to how easy they had it right out of the gate. yup yu can only beat who you face....that being said...BC 2x..Wpg 2x...Ham and Ott not 4 times....would be a totally different result, and having to take an actual road trip too would also factor in...their travel this yr for distance was a complete joke too.... Noeller and voodoochylde 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 27 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: Dear Football Gods, we realize that these are just projections and we take nothing for granted. Your help in the coming days is and always will be greatly appreciated. Your faithful servants, amen. Yes of course! I only post to try to pump the breaks on the "big bad Argos" discourse. We both finished first in our divisions, East may have been stronger across the board but the Argos didn't have the Lions to contend with (head and shoulders above the other 6 teams), we beat them 2 outta 3 (loss came allllll the way back in June). 2 game difference in wins-losses doesn't mean much. IF the grey cup ends up featuring these 2 teams it'll be another classic. HardCoreBlue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, 17to85 said: Quick someone do the Bombers record vs. Greater than .500 teams vs the argos record vs. Greater than .500 teams My own napkin math fails my point on this one considering how often the argos played the technically above .500 Als. But really, does Cody Fajardo count? bluto and Noeller 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted November 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: My own napkin math fails my point on this one considering how often the argos played the technically above .500 Als. But really, does Cody Fajardo count? only semi related, but I just read that of the Als 11-7 record, they are 11-0 against teams below .500, and 0-7 against teams above. Edited November 1, 2023 by Noeller johnzo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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