Well that loss stung last night. Not happy with the decision to kick the FG but that can be discussed elsewhere  All in all there was a lot of improvement this year over last year and looking like they are trending upwards. If Walters can pull off another great draft and some more key FAs this offseason I like our chances going into 2017. Who is on the FA watch list and what areas are we in desperate need of fixing?

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

what you don't think Mack brought in a pile of american talent for this team? He did that aspect of the job better than Walters has. 

I would've agreed with this prior to this year, but we got some quality players this year. 

It would still be nice if Walters could recruit a half decent receiver though.

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2 hours ago, sweep the leg said:

The 2013 Blue Bombers were really brimming with talent...

American talent, yeah they had a lot of that. Canadians and quarterbacks though not so much. 

Walters wishes he could bring in Americans like Joe Mack did. 

23 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

American talent, yeah they had a lot of that.

We'll have agree to disagree on this one. With very few exceptions, the talent on that team was terrible. I invite you to google that roster to refresh your memory.

1 hour ago, Blueandgold said:

I would've agreed with this prior to this year, but we got some quality players this year. 

It would still be nice if Walters could recruit a half decent receiver though.

It's weird that receivers have been so hard for us to find, when they're supposed to be the easiest to find, yet we can't seem to miss on the dbs we bring in.

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I feel like football people love Kavis Reed despite not having much success.

This arranged marriage seems doomed to fail, but both have been around long enough that maybe they figure it out. 

I thought that I read somewhere that Reed was recommended for the GM position by Chapdelaine.

I'm glad that's not us!

1 hour ago, Dr. Blue said:

I thought that I read somewhere that Reed was recommended for the GM position by Chapdelaine.

I'm glad that's not us!

I definitely read that as well. This whole thing just reeks of something the Bombers would have done in the past because it's the cheap and easy way. 

5 hours ago, 17to85 said:

American talent, yeah they had a lot of that. Canadians and quarterbacks though not so much. 

Walters wishes he could bring in Americans like Joe Mack did. 

Name an American OL who was better than Bond, Foketi, or Hardrick. 

4 hours ago, sweep the leg said:

It's weird that receivers have been so hard for us to find, when they're supposed to be the easiest to find, yet we can't seem to miss on the dbs we bring in.

The HC might have something to do with that.

1 hour ago, Mark H. said:

Name an American OL who was better than Bond, Foketi, or Hardrick. 

Kelly Butler ? Maybe not better but at least he belongs to that group. 

Andre Douglas is also good prior to his injury.

 

BTW, Hardrick was originally from BC. 

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1 minute ago, M.O.A.B. said:

Kelly Butler ? Maybe not better but at least he belongs to that group. 

Didn't Kelly bring him to WPG via Edmonton 

8 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Didn't Kelly bring him to WPG via Edmonton 

He signed with the club 2010 

 

I think you're referring to OL Thaddeus Coleman. 

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/blogs/bomber_insiders/Another-trade-with-Edmonton-48036967.html

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4 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said:

BTW, Hardrick was originally from BC. 

Sure, and he also played for the Riders. 

But, the Bomber staff recognized Hardrick's potential and didn't dismiss him as another failed talent. They got him to lose 20 pounds so that he'd be more mobile and look what happened. 

To me that's a strike against the Lions and Riders if anything.

9 hours ago, Mark H. said:

Name an American OL who was better than Bond, Foketi, or Hardrick. 

Name a receiver better than Matthews? Or a DE better than Willis/Hunt. Or a HB better than Hefney. OR DT better than Turner. Etc etc. Mack had his bright spots. This isn't an attempt to rewrite history. Those teams were what they were. But he found plenty of American talent, and in their prime most were the best or damn near the best in the league.

19 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Name a receiver better than Matthews? Or a DE better than Willis/Hunt. Or a HB better than Hefney. OR DT better than Turner. Etc etc. Mack had his bright spots. This isn't an attempt to rewrite history. Those teams were what they were. But he found plenty of American talent, and in their prime most were the best or damn near the best in the league.

Wllis, Hunt, & Hefney all came before Mack.

 

 

I would hire Mack and Moll in a heartbeat to recruit for us. Mack and Moll knew how to recruit at a few positions that's for sure.

2 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

Name a receiver better than Matthews? Or a DE better than Willis/Hunt. Or a HB better than Hefney. OR DT better than Turner. Etc etc. Mack had his bright spots. This isn't an attempt to rewrite history. Those teams were what they were. But he found plenty of American talent, and in their prime most were the best or damn near the best in the league.

You can also throw names like Sears and Washington and Wild in there too. I get that people want to pretend that Joe Mack was the worst person in the world and he did make mistakes, but when it came to recruiting players from the states he was damned good, but he relied on that entirely and didn't make good coaching choices so the whole thing didn't work. 

 

18 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

You can also throw names like Sears and Washington and Wild in there too. I get that people want to pretend that Joe Mack was the worst person in the world and he did make mistakes, but when it came to recruiting players from the states he was damned good, but he relied on that entirely and didn't make good coaching choices so the whole thing didn't work. 

 

some kind of booger man....

Yeah, there was the myth that Mack lived in the States and therefore was never around the team. Fact was that during the season he spent most of his time in Winnipeg. 

I'd bring back Mack as a scout under the condition that he spend no time in Winnipeg.

3 minutes ago, Mike said:

I'd bring back Mack as a scout under the condition that he spend no time in Winnipeg.

Pretty sure that was one of his contract demands before he signed on as GM...

2 hours ago, sweep the leg said:

Wllis, Hunt, & Hefney all came before Mack.

 

 

Tragic that John Murphy was part of the post-Kelly purge...

 

38 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

You can also throw names like Sears and Washington and Wild in there too. I get that people want to pretend that Joe Mack was the worst person in the world and he did make mistakes, but when it came to recruiting players from the states he was damned good, but he relied on that entirely and didn't make good coaching choices so the whole thing didn't work. 

 

He wasn't as bad as some people think, but he certainly wasn't as good as you think he was. He found some high end guys, but the garbage fire that was the "talent" on that 2013 team shows that he didn't find nearly enough of it.

With no role in putting the team together, I'd consider taking him back as a scout too, although he's old as **** now. I'd probably rather have Moll.