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DT did an amazing job of holding Hogan’s feet to the fire. The play-call was absolutely indefensible. And Hogan’s defensiveness and arrogance in the interview was almost worse. A couple weeks back, he also lauded his offence’s ability to get 400+ yards, even though they lost by 21 points and most of the yards were in garbage-time. To be young and inexperienced is understandable. To be defensive, rigid, and arrogant is not. I am officially concerned.

Didn't say which coffin.

I feel like you not adding your own commentary tells me how you feel about that answer all I know is he needs to learn from that, because that is an absolute clown answer

From the scrum: Q: "What's the benefit of the touchdown in that situation when you're already up 6?" Jason Hogan: "Putting the game away. Y'know putting the game away. A 'kill shot' is really all it was. Instead of going up 3 (more) it's putting the game away, making it hard on the opponent. Little more momentum, maybe lifting the bench a little more...confidence booster, all that good stuff." Q: "You don't feel like that same thing applies to being up 9? (blahblah about sergio being 100% FG from there)" JH: "Sergio is going to hit...no doubt about it. But I think defense tries to go 0, 1, 3. We try and go 6, 3. Right? So that's the mindset behind being in the red zone is trying to be...trying to take shots when we need to when they're there. And we felt at that time was the right time."

An old fart of a Bomber fan here. Sometimes you can tell a lot about a person by the way they carry themselves, the way, of all things, they wear hats. Go back a page and check the headgear on the three coaches. O'Shea...very old school, kind of mature, I think. Younger...he's getting there. When he first started, his cap had a really flat, straight brim and more often than not was pointing askew. Hogan...well, I'll leave it to you. And, throw in the sunglasses. IMO, he's a young, arrogant guy who, this early in his career, thinks he knows it all. At this point, he's not going to admit a mistake. IMO, he called the wrong play for the situation. Too bad he's not mature enough to accept even part responsibility. I fear that the O is in for a long, unproductive season reagardless of the talent on the field.

I wish someone had asked him a follow up question. What’s the difference between going up 9 or 13 there? That was an inexcusable call. There was 2:58 left … run the ball twice, kill a minute at minimum … make it a two possession game with 2 minutes and change left. Even if you give them a 13 point hole instead of 9 … it was first down, you’re giving them an entire extra minute to work with. God awful.

3 Canadian receivers...well we better trade for a legit one...cause Demski...Clercius and Corcoran ain't gonna win us many games...especially with Sterns and Wheatfall as the imports That's a load if crap...pathetic thing to say... Coaching kills us...said it many times Yeah...agreed...all comes down to again poor roster management and usage of assets Yup...he has zero street cred yet...to say something like that is not a good look

I don't like Hogan taking no responsibility there. I feel like analytics tells you running the ball twice and either gaining another set of downs or the TD and at worst having the kick the FG to go up two scores is the correct play. Its also not the first time Hogan has made this mistake, he did so in the Calgary game too. It comes across as arrogant and Hogan has done nothing to get away with being arrogant. IMO he hasn't proven he can be an average OC yet.

I hope OSH is just protecting his OC - if he agree's with that statement - he needs to give his head a shake - always make it a two score game with 3 minutes left... we got lucky, and the D bailed them out.

Streveler completed 3 passes over 10 yards in the air the entire game. Not exactly primed for a "kill shot." Coaches can criticize Streveler's accuracy...but how the **** do you not realize his limitations? They were calling plays based on that the whole night. It can be a little better for him if you win up front and open up playaction. But nothing opens up until he makes some throws. So that playcall was just an arm punt.

They've repeatedly talked about Mitchell's ability to return kicks, so if he's indeed going on, then I'd bet Cooley's almost certainly coming off.

Hope not...but u know osh J.Jones on field alot was one reasons T.Jones actually looked better and there weren't guys free wheeling through the middle. Griffin and J.Jones helped in that regard in a big way..J.Jones needs to stay on...we are basically just wasting Ayers as a DA so may as well take him off J.Jones also made some key blocks on the Vaval return work

Collaros for Artopoeus Mitchell for Cooley Dawson Jr for Parker Peterson for Cobb Bailey for Lawson Bryant for Randolph Woods for Ayers I believe I have managed it well

Really shitty to see Lawson out. Even more reps for Jake is bad news all around. Unless they have enough sense to just insert Woods for Lawson and rotate him in there, and either play less NIs or start a Canadian somewhere else...

Considering the complete lack of traction the O had that game you take the guaranteed points all the time. One on one is totally different if you got a 6'2 receiver on a 5' 8 db as well but when it's the other way around... just dumb.

I'm sure this quote will be used against us again later in the season. While I don't mind "going for it", I'm a bit hesitant when for the most part the lead was gained by special teams/defense and where up until that point they had very little success in the pass game.

It happened at Home against CGY too. Inside the ten (I believe, at the very least it was in the redzone), instead of giving it to Brady, they put it in the hands of Strev who then misplaces a ball that is picked off and the game was essentially over. So there was already a reason to maybe not do that (let Strev throw in that situation) and he did it anyway and almost gave the game away. Sure, Streveler underthrew it. But acting like it was a needed "kill shot" is just odd. Hogan, we can do simple math. This isn't SSK.

Thinking that your decisions are always right and being inflexible is a huge red flag. Everybody should reflect and adapt.

People were skeptical of the OC hire, nothing seems to have alleviated those concerns

Ya I agree, after watching that , then seeing Younger and the way he handled himself I have no confidence in this new OC. Kind of reminds me a bit of Kellys arrogance. I think its time for a mid season change and put Jackson in charge of that O, otherwise going to be a long season.

I watched the interview and they did talk in general about the multiple situations and he talked about making the same call with zach who also threw a td. He really just chalks it up to poor execution and accuracy on the throws. Parts of it are better than it sounds, but parts are worse. I don’t think he gets that the co and hc are responsible for creating execution through preparation and practice. I think his defence of strevys play is not great either. Clearly Chris is struggling to act quickly. Be it getting the ball out of his hands, rpo, run option or when pressured. He really harps on being right in his play call. Says he is hard on him self in review and hindsight. Seems really singular minded. Which matches what I’ve seen from his play call so far. If he thinks he’s right even if it isn’t working, he’s gonna keep doing the same thing. Watching JYs interview it’s easy to see the difference and why his D has bounced back and found ways to excel. And why Hogan hasn’t. I was disappointed with hogan but happy we got Jackson. Try to hope for the best and give him the benefit of the doubt. But damn, I’m worried about him as OC. Even with Jackson, he doesn’t seem ready. His complete lack of experience with being an OC at any real level is a lot to over come.

Textbook behavior on how to lose your offensive players and get the fans against you by blaming the popular backup quarterback on your stupid playcalling. Leaders don't typically blame others, they take responsibility in their actions. At least on this forum, there isn't one person impressed with him so far. Run the ball, kick the field goal and make it a 2 score game or make a safe quick pass if you feel the need. I have no confidence in our offense if that's the kind of person who's in charge of it.

yuuuup. Maybe our system is just too complicated for him. You know, like situationally. We might be on the opponent's side of the field, late in the 4th, with the best back in the league and the ability to kill time and kick a fg to go up by 2 scores. But for us, that's when you go deep. Not as intuitive as most offensive systems. Idk what to expect if he does play, but it would just be hillarious if he had the best game of the year for a bomber wr.

I noticed the waggle seemed to be troubling him on that play

funny part...very first highlight....out of the slot

Great job team. Sending this to MOS now so he knows what to do.

I’m sure it’ll be Woods coming in for Jones but yeah

If they popped on Bailey, global DE, straight across for Lawson. Use him in that Cheetah front with all the ends on 2nd and long, maybe 15 snaps a game, put Woods on for the most surplus of the American LB's...keeping in mind majority of D snaps we have 1 of them on the field...maybe see 2 more this week vs Calgary over Toronto who doesn't try to run at all. Jefferson, Vaughters, Person, Bailey (counts as a Canadian effectively), Woods, Adams, Thomas, Kornelson. Solid group of 8. Bailey and Person for sure can cover kicks. Likely keeping 3 Canadian OL starting with Vanterpool out. 3 OL, 2 receivers, 1 running back, 1 Canadian/Global on the field every snap on D. So between Kramdi and Kelly you've basically satisfied that. Any reps Canadian DL or LB get is extra. And lots of coverage for that Canadian spot if something funny happens.

Our Canadian receivers are not the best in the CFL except for Demski. So I'm not a fan of that choice starting 3 Canadians. We didn't keep any of all the import rookies we looked at in tryout camps or TC. So that was an absolute failure. Sterns is not horrible for a 3rd or 4th guy but he's not going to scare defences. Obviously losing Schoen didn't help but our choices are extremely limited with only Mitchell and new guy on the PR. The only advantage with 3 Canadian receivers if we use the extra import elsewhere effectively. What did we decide? Adding Cooley while bumping Peterson as the back up RB. That made zero sense and I expect it to change this week with some players coming off of IR. Of the choices we have, I'm not sure which they will choose.

Run, run, field goal....period Snap at 1 second each... Clock and score awareness...

Unless you're like me and always right

I think it's pretty clear they need to flip a couple American spots to O. We have guys like Shay and Smith to cover LB if we really needed. Kelly can play. Hallett is passable. The kind of D we play I'd much rather have 1 American dressed at WIL/MLB than 4. Having guys like Jones, Wilson and Ayres on to combined play under half the D snaps is mega waste when we have a phase of the team playing insanely short handed on O.

Vaughters/Willie/Person, Adams/Lawson/Woods would be the best DL rotation we’ve had in years

Majority of them out of slot...some inside handoff/sweep plays....kinda stuff we do....imagine Just was a bunch of B.S Osh yip yappin to justify his fav's playing first (Case) and then the bone head dumb move of Corcoran starting and Cooley on for no particular reason

On their fantasy discussion segment on OB, they play some clips as the intro to the segment. One of them is a call where Mitchell beats Winston Rose deep for a TD.

Normally, this week I bet we see them kick away from Vaval the whole game though. So he'd have a decent chance to field some balls.

Haha they tried on that Vaval TD but Cooley rightfully go the **** out of the way that time.

@DTonOB what did Ayers get for defensive snaps last game..and for yr?

So be it. If Ayres has some supernatural special teams abilities in their eyes, leave him on. But in terms of D absolutely no need to have both Jones', Wilson and Ayres to play about 80 snaps a game between them. Meanwhile on O we basically have no receivers dressed and a random 5'7 235 pound option tailback trying to catch kicks on special teams.

That's what id do...and if we only need 1 Canadian at anytime on defence Thomas wouldn't see the field...really roster...hes not needed...keep Cobb on for him

Peterson for Cobb I would bet if Mitchell is going on.

Yup, exactly what I thought when I read Lawson was out again. And we know there is ZERO chance they trim Jake’s snaps for an import. Ugh.

Rest of the practice week: Tuesday, August 5 Practice: 11:30 a.m. - 1:10 p.m. Wednesday, August 6 Closed practice Thursday, August 7 Off day – no availability Friday, August 8 Travel to Calgary

We? What does he mean by WE? HE thought it was the right call.

Did someone rightly call him an idiot for that answer? I mean he knows that missing that play can lead to a turnover right? Situational awareness is huge as a coach and it was lapos main flaw

Reporters should have pointed out to Hogan that he did this twice in three games.

It’s actually one of the first times (that I can recall) that a coach on this team has publicly thrown a player under the bus.