Floyd Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Chris Walby can't think of a name for offensive player of the game... ha IC Khari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Maybe it's stilly willy, but when they only rush three for most of the 4th quater willy was on target and making reads and moving the ball really well. the pocket still collapses if Nichole's is in there. I don't get why they didn't put Nichols in in the third to see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Jovon Johnson and Troy Westwood on twitter pretty much saying Joe Mack set the team back years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgoldguy Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Weird of them to say that. Ottawa started from scratch barely over 2 seasons ago and they went to the Grey Cup last year and are off to a strong start this year. Proof that in the CFL you can build a competitive playoff team within a few seasons. Ducky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 The Ottawa example isn't really relevant in my opinion. I think its easier to start from scratch pretty much. Money to spend on anyone they wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgoldguy Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) Most contracts being 2 years or less renders your point irrelevant not to mention contracts are not guaranteed. Edited July 2, 2016 by blueandgoldguy TBURGESS and Atomic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, Goalie said: The Ottawa example isn't really relevant in my opinion. I think its easier to start from scratch pretty much. Money to spend on anyone they wanted I don't buy that... Wpg had the cheapest QBs, no real big contracts, nothing holding them back when Mack was turfed Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Floyd said: I don't buy that... Wpg had the cheapest QBs, no real big contracts, nothing holding them back when Mack was turfed Bombers have to spend money paying fired coaches for years. Ottawa didnt have that. Edited July 2, 2016 by M.O.A.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgoldguy Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 The difference in the 2 teams' records going back to last year cannot solely be explained by one team having to pay for fired coaches while the other did not. Regardless, Mack and company were paid off long ago. Any spending discrepancies on all players may also be quickly dismissed with the salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 You can only blame Mack so much...it's way past time for them to blame him. Atomic, TBURGESS and blueandgoldguy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I would still rather have Mack over Walters. Ya. I said it. Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Ppl in the know are blaming mack. Perhaps those ppl actually know more than fans on a message board? Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 54 minutes ago, Adrenaline_x said: Maybe it's stilly willy, but when they only rush three for most of the 4th quater willy was on target and making reads and moving the ball really well. the pocket still collapses if Nichole's is in there. I don't get why they didn't put Nichols in in the third to see what he can do. Thats pretty much it. Weve had plenty of bad qbs before. And when it comes to garbage time they get little done. Idk how any one can think willy was gonna get pulled. 0 chance of that. Especially this early. Mos doesnt pull vets easily. They get tons of lee way. And there is no reason to think any one on the bench is gonna come in and make the O work in the first 3 quarters. If mos makes that call, and it doesnt work (its a hail marry at very best) his time as a HC is done. The season is lost. The team will lose confidence him mos and willy and we'll be in for another long long season. We have a better chance of winning changing HCs then qbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Goalie said: Ppl in the know are blaming mack. Perhaps those ppl actually know more than fans on a message board? Nah. Troy Westwood....come on! blueandgoldguy and IC Khari 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 What vets exactly. MO Leggett and basically Rory Kohlert and maybe Chris Randle are the longest tenured bombers currently. Jake Thomas also. The rest are pretty Damn new to the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgoldguy Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Just now, Goalie said: Ppl in the know are blaming mack. Perhaps those ppl actually know more than fans on a message board? Nah. lol. The good old appeal to authority. So this must be true because a whopping 2 supposed "authorities" agree with it. Well Goalie as Carl Sagan once wrote, "One of the great commandments of science is, 'Mistrust arguments from authority.' Too many arguments have proved too painfully wrong. Authorities must prove their contentions like everybody else." White Out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Out Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Anyone who quotes Carl is good with me. Nice job and apt post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 4 hours ago, Goalie said: What vets exactly. MO Leggett and basically Rory Kohlert and maybe Chris Randle are the longest tenured bombers currently. Jake Thomas also. The rest are pretty Damn new to the team Doesn't that alone disprove the Mack blaming theory? Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Print this out and place it on some cardboard backing, it's therapeutic ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) Mack put up 20 wins plus a playoff win in his first 3 seasons with the Bombers. Walters is going to have to win 8 games this year and a playoff game just to match that total. Which seems incredibly unlikely. Not sure he can blame Mack for that. Edited July 2, 2016 by Atomic Math error IC Khari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I don't think that the personnel on the O-line are as bad as the stats indicate- they cannot seem to adjust to the play- and appears to be the character of the whole freaking team. Gotta be coaching and I think is going to be the end of more than one coaching career. IC Khari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 26 minutes ago, tracker said: I don't think that the personnel on the O-line are as bad as the stats indicate- they cannot seem to adjust to the play- and appears to be the character of the whole freaking team. Gotta be coaching and I think is going to be the end of more than one coaching career. Coaching or personnel or both? Whoever figures that out first will be some kind of hero in these parts. Bomber fans have been needing the answer to that since 2003 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) Two or three years special teams coaching is probably not enough experience for a person to be a head coach. It Made no sense to me at the time it was done. So far, looks like it was not a good decision. Not a history person, but I expect it's the first time that's been done in the modern CFL. This team has enough good players to be better than it is. The players can't say what they think, but their performance, appearing to be lacking heart, shows something about what they think. Having played the game well isn't enough to make a good coach. Some good players are bad coaches, some bad players are good coaches. Edited July 2, 2016 by Mark F sp Tracker and Fatty Liver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mark F said: Two or three years special teams coaching is probably not enough experience for a person to be a head coach. It Made no sense to me at the time it was done. So far, looks like it was not a good decision. Not a history person, but I expect it's the first time that's been done in the CFL. Actually that's also the Jeff Rein-dolt story. He was BC's special teams coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Mack is long gone....... But the excuses live on.... blueandgoldguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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