Booch Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 And solid guy in MTL now too wbbfan, rebusrankin, GCJenks and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Booch said: And solid guy in MTL now too If only the league could get some one like any of those teams in Toronto. blue_gold_84 and GCJenks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Booch said: And solid guy in MTL now too For all the flak that the league commissioner and board of directors have taken, these two sore spots have helped put the league in much better shape, and yes, if the Argos had good ownership willing to promote the team, we would be set. Until the next crisis. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Tracker said: For all the flak that the league commissioner and board of directors have taken, these two sore spots have helped put the league in much better shape, and yes, if the Argos had good ownership willing to promote the team, we would be set. Until the next crisis. League is still better off having MLSE owning the Argos than not. Their pockets are so deep that losses are not consequential, and I don’t see other buyers lining up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: League is still better off having MLSE owning the Argos than not. Their pockets are so deep that losses are not consequential, and I don’t see other buyers lining up. MLSE has done and will do as little as possible to promote the Argos and while they are better than nothing, I really hope that turnarounds in Montreal and Vancouver will either inspire MLSE to wake up or sell it to someone who will do it right. JCon, blue_gold_84 and kelownabomberfan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 Death by a thousand cuts - MLSE as owners of the Argos. They're the only one with stadium, with a lot paid for with tax dollars, so we're stuck with them. The Argos are on life support and no one cares. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said: League is still better off having MLSE owning the Argos than not. Their pockets are so deep that losses are not consequential, and I don’t see other buyers lining up. I have some ocean front property I am willing to sell you for cheap.... MLSE were leading the charge to try and cash in on the XFL crap. They aren't willing to spend on the Argos and that's the problem. It's nothing to them. Would be a lot better off with an owner that gave a **** about the team and league and actually tried to build up the franchise. JCon and Tracker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Tracker said: MLSE has done and will do as little as possible to promote the Argos and while they are better than nothing, I really hope that turnarounds in Montreal and Vancouver will either inspire MLSE to wake up or sell it to someone who will do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said: Knowing MLSE, they'll sell the Argos then not let them use BMO Field. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 As a lifelong Argo supporter, I am conditioned to expect the worst. Usually it doesn't end up that way but it sort of ends up as an ownership and media apathy which borders on malevolence. When you consider how easy it would be for MLSE to cross promote this Club. The oldest professional sports franchise in North America. The 18 time Champions. In its 150th fricking year this year! ...but it's been crickets and vague promises of special events, commemorations and fan bonuses. We'll see where this ends up. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. Tracker, wpgallday1960, Stickem and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 "...we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men." bluto and Tracker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 10 hours ago, 17to85 said: I have some ocean front property I am willing to sell you for cheap.... MLSE were leading the charge to try and cash in on the XFL crap. They aren't willing to spend on the Argos and that's the problem. It's nothing to them. Would be a lot better off with an owner that gave a **** about the team and league and actually tried to build up the franchise. 4 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Knowing MLSE, they'll sell the Argos then not let them use BMO Field. I agree another owner would be better, but I don’t think that exists right now. And yes MLSE would block them from using the stadium. Which is why I say better to have an owner who at least pays the bills and keeps the franchise financially viable as opposed to having no owner and the league pays the bills again. If anyone can identify a willing owner, I’ll revise my statement. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 16 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said: League is still better off having MLSE owning the Argos than not. Their pockets are so deep that losses are not consequential, and I don’t see other buyers lining up. Deep pockets only matter if you are willing to spend it. And mlse isn’t willing to spend on the argos. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Deep pockets only matter if you are willing to spend it. And mlse isn’t willing to spend on the argos. In what way is the willingness to take an annual operating loss not spending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, bluto said: As a lifelong Argo supporter, I am conditioned to expect the worst. Usually it doesn't end up that way but it sort of ends up as an ownership and media apathy which borders on malevolence. When you consider how easy it would be for MLSE to cross promote this Club. The oldest professional sports franchise in North America. The 18 time Champions. In its 150th fricking year this year! ...but it's been crickets and vague promises of special events, commemorations and fan bonuses. We'll see where this ends up. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. Like a passive investor the only thing Tanenbaum cares about is the value of his property going up so he can add to his personal wealth, ironically it will be the groundwork put in by every other team in the league that increases the Argo's worth, not anything he's ever done to make it better. Best thing for the CFL is for Larry to croak. “My concern is, in the major cities of Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver, it’s not attracted the younger fan engagement. You look at value creation and, you know, quite unfortunately, these teams are not worth that much money. The hockey, basketball or soccer teams are trading at hundreds of millions of dollars, in some cases billions of dollars. And you see the Argos, you know, a 106-year-old league, and what value creation are these franchises trading at? You’ve got to look at that and say, is that success?” https://www.sportsnet.ca/cfl/article/around-the-cfl-tanenbaums-comments-raise-concerns-about-future-of-argonauts-league/ Edited April 17, 2023 by Fatty Liver Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted April 18, 2023 Report Share Posted April 18, 2023 This is, somehow, NOT a CFL graphic. Bubba Zanetti, Mark F and Bigblue204 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 18, 2023 Report Share Posted April 18, 2023 7 hours ago, bluto said: In what way is the willingness to take an annual operating loss not spending? It’s not spending where it’s important. Spending the year end bill but not investing any of the money to actually fix the problems is just giving anesthesia along with the lethal injection. How long do you think the argos can continue as is? The argos are by far in the most trouble of any franchise. And no in season performance can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted April 18, 2023 Report Share Posted April 18, 2023 18 hours ago, bluto said: As a lifelong Argo supporter, I am conditioned to expect the worst. Usually it doesn't end up that way but it sort of ends up as an ownership and media apathy which borders on malevolence. When you consider how easy it would be for MLSE to cross promote this Club. The oldest professional sports franchise in North America. The 18 time Champions. In its 150th fricking year this year! ...but it's been crickets and vague promises of special events, commemorations and fan bonuses. We'll see where this ends up. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. We know where it'll end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted April 19, 2023 Report Share Posted April 19, 2023 Danny Austin @DannyAustin_9 · Follow Interesting. The Stampeders will not be selling seats above Row 52 at McMahon this year (other than Labour Day and vs. Riders). Will be installing tarps to cover top seat sections. Hopefully an aesthetic improvement. 6:17 PM · Apr 18, 2023 Noeller, Tracker, Bubba Zanetti and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted April 19, 2023 Report Share Posted April 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Danny Austin @DannyAustin_9 · Follow Interesting. The Stampeders will not be selling seats above Row 52 at McMahon this year (other than Labour Day and vs. Riders). Will be installing tarps to cover top seat sections. Hopefully an aesthetic improvement. 6:17 PM · Apr 18, 2023 Ahh yes the Toronto approach to low attendance. blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted April 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2023 that ******* organization......what an absolute mess. "WE'VE TRIED NOTHING AND WE'RE ALL OUT OF IDEAS!!" So let's just cover up our mess (literally!!) and hope nobody notices. ******* embarrassing for a West Division team. blue_gold_84, Wideleft, Bigblue204 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted April 19, 2023 Report Share Posted April 19, 2023 It's embarrassing and some of us have been sounding the warning signs for Calgary for a while now. (Paging speedflex....). This city is going to watch the stamps die if they don't pull their heads out of their asses. Beem a slow road but maybe now others will see what has been building for a while now. Noeller, wbbfan and kelownabomberfan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geebrr Posted April 19, 2023 Report Share Posted April 19, 2023 It didn’t look like they came close to selling out against the Gappers Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 17 hours ago, 17to85 said: It's embarrassing and some of us have been sounding the warning signs for Calgary for a while now. (Paging speedflex....). This city is going to watch the stamps die if they don't pull their heads out of their asses. Beem a slow road but maybe now others will see what has been building for a while now. Put three oil wells along the length of the field and a big F**k Trudeau logo in one end zone. That'll bring in an extra 5 thou per game. bigg jay, Noeller, Tracker and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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