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blue_gold_84
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Raise your hand if your greed and pettiness helped your former team's biggest rival end the league's longest drought a season later.

bigg jay
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His trip to the bathroom lasted longer than his free agency.

Jesse
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I like having posters from other teams. I don't get why some of you get so butt hurt over it. Other teams have good players/seasons. It's ok to acknowledge it. DOesn't take anything away from our team

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14 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Yea and no. It has produced more CFL talent than any other NCAA program, which makes sense since they are based in Canada. But they are nowhere near the top program in Canada. As of 2020 when this article was written, Calgary was #1 and Laval in their brief but storied history was #2, both with twice the alums as SFU. 
https://www.cfl.ca/2020/04/27/u-sports-ncaa-schools-dominate-draft-day/

SFU is not #1 from the 2005-2020 time period that the article is using but all-time they are #1.  That being said, their glory years of being a consistent CFL contributor ended about 25 years ago.

13 hours ago, Noeller said:

Sorry this was the quote I saw:

 

 

 

#1 all time but that's a bit misleading.  From 1969-1997 they averaged about six CFL draft picks each year which is really high but over the last 25 years (1998-2022) they've averaged less than 2 players per draft with multiple years of having no players selected.

https://athletics.sfu.ca/sports/2015/4/27/Clan CFL Draft Picks.aspx

 

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56 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

SFU is not #1 from the 2005-2020 time period that the article is using but all-time they are #1.  That being said, their glory years of being a consistent CFL contributor ended about 25 years ago.

#1 all time but that's a bit misleading.  From 1969-1997 they averaged about six CFL draft picks each year which is really high but over the last 25 years (1998-2022) they've averaged less than 2 players per draft with multiple years of having no players selected.

https://athletics.sfu.ca/sports/2015/4/27/Clan CFL Draft Picks.aspx

 

Sfu being the no1 producer of cflers is about as legit as the argos having the most grey cups by counting when only Ontario teams played rugby for the ship.  

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now apparently USports saying that they wouldn't have opposed SFU re-entry to Canada West, if SFU had applied to re-join CW and CW agreed........ so if there had been ANY kind of effort on the part of SFU Powers That Be, this probably could have been avoided. Now there's going to be a reckoning...

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3 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://athletics.sfu.ca/sports/football/roster/ethan-beselt/5778

That’s real bs. Too many big egos putting them self before the sport, the kids, the leagues, and the fans. Pathetic. 
 

1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:

seems like there has to be more to the story here. They could have played in 2023 and choose not to. sighting player opportunity as a reason. 

Now they're locking players out completely? No application to get back to Usports cause it's...hard?

WTF is actually going on

Such a gong show. Hopefully a lot of change is gonna come about from this. 

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SFU is a football shitshow. It was when my son played there & it's never changed. Kelly Bates, maybe the worst football head coach in existence all time went 0-39 as SFU's HC. The university allowed it to happen. He should have been fired after season two. He sucked the life out of his players the way he treated them.

SFU built a $20 million stadium that seats only 2,500 people & SFU students will be paying for it on their fees for decades. SFU had no stadium when they had a football team. Now, they have a stadium & no football team. 

They hired an AD that tried to kill the UBC football program & was railroaded out of her job there because of it. So, naturally, SFU hires her after she was fired & she tries to do the same thing at SFU. Anyone see a pattern here?? She needs to be replaced. 

The admin never funded the team the way  it should have been. Head Coaches, Coordinators & assistants came & went like the wind. No continuity. Recruiting truly suffered. It generally took 4 months for every AD to get off their ass to hire a new HC. Usually in March & just a couple of weeks ahead of spring camp. So, recruitment suffered greatly as it didn't start until spring & everything was rushed to be ready for camp. Like hiring a coaching & training staff & putting together a playbook.

My son played 3 seasons at SFU from 2013-15. In those 3 seasons, he had 3 head coaches, 3 playbooks, 3 OC's, 3 qbs coaches. Every HC thought the previous HC was a dumbass in how they ran the program & that they were smarter than the head coach there before them. Some of the hires like Bates were worse than the coach that he replaced.

Anyway, no one should be surprised this happened as it was inevitable. To me, the program died the moment they hired Bates & he was allowed to totally run the program into the ground. 

No football conference wants a team that can't compete & consistently gets blown out by 40 points a game & that's exactly what happened. They never had a winning record as a member of Division 2 football.

Unfortunately, SFU burned its bridges with U Sports 12 years ago when it left the Canada West Conference. They may be no more goodwill left from that Conference to want them to return.

People have long memories & would administrators from U Sports be willing to take SFU back? Let's hope they do. However, if they did it would mean the end for some other programs like women's softball which is only played in US colleges. All their American sports teams would have to be dropped for the Can West Conference to allow them back. So, either way no matter what SFU does, there will be athletes in other sports negatively affected. Yep, a real shitshow. 

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14 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

SFU is a football shitshow. It was when my son played there & it's never changed. Kelly Bates, maybe the worst football head coach in existence all time went 0-39 as SFU's HC. The university allowed it to happen. He should have been fired after season two. He sucked the life out of his players the way he treated them.

SFU built a $20 million stadium that seats only 2,500 people & SFU students will be paying for it on their fees for decades. SFU had no stadium when they had a football team. Now, they have a stadium & no football team. 

They hired an AD that tried to kill the UBC football program & was railroaded out of her job there because of it. So, naturally, SFU hires her after she was fired & she tries to do the same thing at SFU. Anyone see a pattern here?? She needs to be replaced. 

The admin never funded the team the way  it should have been. Head Coaches, Coordinators & assistants came & went like the wind. No continuity. Recruiting truly suffered. It generally took 4 months for every AD to get off their ass to hire a new HC. Usually in March & just a couple of weeks ahead of spring camp. So, recruitment suffered greatly as it didn't start until spring & everything was rushed to be ready for camp. Like hiring a coaching & training staff & putting together a playbook.

My son played 3 seasons at SFU from 2013-15. In those 3 seasons, he had 3 head coaches, 3 playbooks, 3 OC's, 3 qbs coaches. Every HC thought the previous HC was a dumbass in how they ran the program & that they were smarter than the head coach there before them. Some of the hires like Bates were worse than the coach that he replaced.

Anyway, no one should be surprised this happened as it was inevitable. To me, the program died the moment they hired Bates & he was allowed to totally run the program into the ground. 

No football conference wants a team that can't compete & consistently gets blown out by 40 points a game & that's exactly what happened. They never had a winning record as a member of Division 2 football.

Unfortunately, SFU burned its bridges with U Sports 12 years ago when it left the Canada West Conference. They may be no more goodwill left from that Conference to want them to return.

People have long memories & would administrators from U Sports be willing to take SFU back? Let's hope they do. However, if they did it would mean the end for some other programs like women's softball which is only played in US colleges. All their American sports teams would have to be dropped for the Can West Conference to allow them back. So, either way no matter what SFU does, there will be athletes in other sports negatively affected. Yep, a real shitshow. 

Apparently there are already exceptions to this. So hopefully they're able to find a work around. 

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1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:

Apparently there are already exceptions to this. So hopefully they're able to find a work around. 

Carleton is one example of a program in multiple conferences, having sports teams in both OUA (Ontario) and RSEQ (Quebec). However, SFU is looking to stay in NCAA. Not sure USports would be as willing to allow a crossover into the US as it would a different Canadian province. But SFU seems uninterested anyway. Maybe their board was simply tired of funding a sports program (probably at some decent expense) that was a constant loser for the past 15 years, and found their out. 

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41 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Carleton is one example of a program in multiple conferences, having sports teams in both OUA (Ontario) and RSEQ (Quebec). However, SFU is looking to stay in NCAA. Not sure USports would be as willing to allow a crossover into the US as it would a different Canadian province. But SFU seems uninterested anyway. Maybe their board was simply tired of funding a sports program (probably at some decent expense) that was a constant loser for the past 15 years, and found their out. 

The demise of the Great North West Athletic Conference football division in 2022, after only 3 teams competed in the 2021 season was an unfortunate event that forced SFU to compete further from home adding to the expense of the program. They did not fare well in the Lone Star Conference and were basically asked to leave.

“With the recent announcement that the team has not been invited to continue in the Lone Star Conference."

It appears all the other SFU sports remained viable in GNWC but it looks like the football program found itself between a rock and a hard place.  Pointing fingers is always the easiest response. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Carleton is one example of a program in multiple conferences, having sports teams in both OUA (Ontario) and RSEQ (Quebec). However, SFU is looking to stay in NCAA. Not sure USports would be as willing to allow a crossover into the US as it would a different Canadian province. But SFU seems uninterested anyway. Maybe their board was simply tired of funding a sports program (probably at some decent expense) that was a constant loser for the past 15 years, and found their out. 

They never properly funded the team. 

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1 hour ago, Fatty Liver said:

To be filed under "funny". 

https://3downnation.com/2023/04/07/argos-qb-chad-kelly-believes-back-to-back-grey-cup-wins-will-secure-him-nfl-opportunity/

Argos’ QB Chad Kelly believes back-to-back Grey Cup wins will secure him NFL opportunity

I facepalmed so hard that I saw stars.

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1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

They never properly funded the team. 

How big a school is SFU? Can they afford a football program if they have travel cost concerns about competing in CanWest, like they claimed when they were a part of CIS (as it then was)?I have limited knowledge of budgets and such, but I would imagine football is one of the more expensive programs to run in sports. 

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26 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

How big a school is SFU? Can they afford a football program if they have travel cost concerns about competing in CanWest, like they claimed when they were a part of CIS (as it then was)?I have limited knowledge of budgets and such, but I would imagine football is one of the more expensive programs to run in sports. 

SFU's enrollment is 37,670 which surprised me, however that may also include thousands of students enrolled through distance education across the province.

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15 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

How big a school is SFU? Can they afford a football program if they have travel cost concerns about competing in CanWest, like they claimed when they were a part of CIS (as it then was)?I have limited knowledge of budgets and such, but I would imagine football is one of the more expensive programs to run in sports. 

There's no way that their costs to compete in Canada would be more than in NCAA or even NAIA.

Just think every meal they provide athletes, coaches and support staff in the US is 35% more than the same meal in Victoria, Kamloops, Edmonton, Winnipeg or Saskatoon.

Canada West has 6 members within a 5 hour drive of SFU and UNBC in Prince George just a bit farther.  4 schools in Edmonton and Calgary, Lethbridge, then the 5 prairie schools. 

They'd save a metric **** ton of costs by competing in Canada for all sports.

Football conference is a lot smaller, but there's no justification on cost for them on choosing to compete in US college ranks.

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