According to the coaches show, MOS is planning to bring back all of his coaches? Discuss.

Honestly if he wasn't I wouldn't expect him to come out on the radio and say he's not going to one day after a loss. 

I think if they can upgrade on Hall... steinhauer Thorpe.... they do. 

At this point does O'shea have a contract for next year? I know there was a thread on extension talks, but don't recall if he ever signed an extension.

No surprise at all. O'Shea is nothing if he's not loyal.

And this means we will get more of the same next year- for better or worse.

The talent on D was let down by the coaching.  I saw Lawless subtly mentioning they can do better than Hall, that was a couple of weeks ago so I expect this to become a story as the off-season progresses.  if Lawless was talking about it, he got it from somewhere.  If they retain Hall, he will be the first one canned if the D doesnt improve quickly.

3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

The talent on D was let down by the coaching.  I saw Lawless subtly mentioning they can do better than Hall, that was a couple of weeks ago so I expect this to become a story as the off-season progresses.  if Lawless was talking about it, he got it from somewhere.  If they retain Hall, he will be the first one canned if the D doesnt improve quickly.

I honestly can't see how they would improve quickly.  Hall has coached the same type of defense his entire career.  I'm not sure he is capable of making changes to his schemes... If he is, why hasn't he?

 

Just now, BomberBall said:

I honestly can't see how they would improve quickly.  Hall has coached the same type of defense his entire career.  I'm not sure he is capable of making changes to his schemes... If he is, why hasn't he?

 

I can only imagine that he sees the writing on the wall and makes some adjustments or MOS gets more involved.  More likely, nothing changes.  Maybe nothing changes all season.  But I just thought it was interesting that Lawless planted the seed that the Bombers can do better than Hall...makes me wonder if that's the opinion of Miller.

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I can only imagine that he sees the writing on the wall and makes some adjustments or MOS gets more involved.  More likely, nothing changes.  Maybe nothing changes all season.  But I just thought it was interesting that Lawless planted the seed that the Bombers can do better than Hall...makes me wonder if that's the opinion of Miller.

Hard to say what might have prompted Lawless to make the comment.... I wouldn't be surprised if Miller and Walters are wanting things to change on D.  Hopefully they'll take a good long look a it.

Dead last in yards allowed, I don't know how you can ignore that even with all the turnovers, something needs fixing.

Heath/Randle/Loffler/Fogg/Frederick/ Leggett/Westerman/Cummings are some really good pieces too I think they do better with say Thorpe, Steinhaur, Mark Nelson

Fantastic...Set a new mark for the biggest blown lead in CFL playoff history, make one of the dumbest decisions in CFL playoff history, and sing kumbaya by the fire with everyone after the fact for the foreseeable future. 

1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

Heath/Randle/Loffler/Fogg/Frederick/ Leggett/Westerman/Cummings are some really good pieces too I think they do better with say Thorpe, Steinhaur, Mark Nelson

Thorpe in a heartbeat.  loved his aggressive defense.

Lawless had mentioned during the season that before Greg Knox had left they were trying to groom him to be next DC and that he was going to be installing some pressure packages during the year. Maybe MOS looks at some that fits that role better than Hall.

4 minutes ago, Mr. Perfect said:

Fantastic...Set a new mark for the biggest blown lead in CFL playoff history, make one of the dumbest decisions in CFL playoff history, and sing kumbaya by the fire with everyone after the fact for the foreseeable future. 

Is that true? If so, I would find that surprising. 

1 hour ago, Mr. Perfect said:

Fantastic...Set a new mark for the biggest blown lead in CFL playoff history, make one of the dumbest decisions in CFL playoff history, and sing kumbaya by the fire with everyone after the fact for the foreseeable future. 

 

According to Penton -  "making it the second biggest blown lead in CFL playoff history."

           *seems to be some confusion on this....

But no matter. It will be remembered...and that's too bad. The game itself, barring the final result, was a truly fantastic  CFL game that had a bit of everything. 

For me, it doesn't matter when the points are scored, as long as we win. Alas, that didn't happen. We were one play away...

Edited November 15, 20169 yr by Mr Dee

I think if, some 2 days after the game, you're still losing your mind over how it ended.......you need to dial it back about 10-20%. It happened, it's done, we've gotta move on or it's gonna eat you alive. 

Let's keep things in perspective here, we were 11-7 and had a good team. 

We also need a stud at DE. Thankfully, the guys we put out at the other spot were a hell of a lot better than Greg Peach, but they were all average at best. Westerman also wasn't nearly as good as he was in 2015. 

Odd.  I was so sure OShea would start handing out pink slips live over the radio.  That's totally his style.

Pretty sure Hall will be retained.   Better beef up the DL and get some run stuffers at MIB/ILB

Just now, do or die said:

Pretty sure Hall will be retained.   Better beef up the DL and get some run stuffers at MIB/ILB

But isn't Westerman , Shologan and Cummings considered an elite D-line?

Wonder if Kyle Knox would be a MLB option.  Beast on Special Teams 

....on paper, perhaps.

I think they are... I'm just not sure if they were used to the best of their ability at times. 

Example: First half vs BC... pressure and getting sacks 

2nd half: not so much. 

Is it the players who got it done in the first half or the way they were used in the second half. 

Didn't O'Shea also say something to this effect when talking about Bellefueille last season and then fire him anyways? I wouldn't put any stock into what he says about his staff for next year, with the exception of Lapo.

19 hours ago, Jpan85 said:

Lawless had mentioned during the season that before Greg Knox had left they were trying to groom him to be next DC and that he was going to be installing some pressure packages during the year. Maybe MOS looks at some that fits that role better than Hall.

He took a CIS HC gig, correct?

16 hours ago, Goalie said:

Wonder if Kyle Knox would be a MLB option.  Beast on Special Teams 

I actually thought Knox was going to come in once Bass went down... a little disappointed to see Hurl in there but I guess he was more familiar with the defense (2nd half gameplan - tackle no one!) and has more game experience...