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That is just not a good take, at all.

It seems like a lackadaisical mentality has trickled down from the top.

The hard truth is it won’t matter who plays as long as Stanley Bryant is our left tackle. The most important position in football besides the quarter back, and he consistently gets taken to school. Hes simply not quick enough to contain a defensive lineman anymore. I watched him constantly over the last couple of weeks to see how bad it is. He doesn’t just get beat occasionally, he gets beat on almost every single play. He’s either beat clean or has to hold, neither of those things are good for us. I love Stanley Bryant and what he’s meant to this team, but he’s single handily our number one liability out there currently. There’s no way you can watch game film and say hey this is perfectly fine. He’s going to get our quarterbacks killed out there.

We know the Oline has a hard time in pass protection...and we've known this for weeks...so we consistently swing our great blocking RB out to WR, and allow one of the best pass rushing DLs in the league make real easy decisions on their assignments....but thats not on coaching? Offense builds momentum by consistently running the ball in the 3rd/4th quarter...dragging the back into the game. And after his best/biggest run of the game he doesnt get another touch. But thats not on coaching? Players were consistently put in positions to be beaten. On offense and defense. The players did themselves no favours either. And made plenty of mistakes. But none of them happened for the 1st time this game, and the coaches seemingly refused to change anything. But thats not on coaching?

I don't create threads very often but I was kind of missing a good ol' post-game thread. The title of the thread sums up my take on last night's game. Going from a Sunday game that went about as far into overtime that you can get to a Friday match against a high powered Calgary offense. This wasn't going to be easy. I'm not going to say that we win this game otherwise, but a lot of what I saw can be attributed to this. Everyone, to a man, was a half step behind. First few drives looked like we were trying to conserve energy. That was embarrassing, particularly our first defensive effort. At a point though, they all realized they have to give more if this game was going to stay close. That said, they were not able to overcome their physical limitations..and that really exposed that we are not a great team. Great teams have enough talent that they will find a way. The Good Our defensive front seven has continued to be a force. There is a lot of talent in this group. We had their run game bottled up and they were making life difficult for VA. Major Williams, to me, was the only DB out there that played well enough. He's a rookie though, and in the CFL you are going to get beat every once in a while. Our offensive line, I thought, had a solid night minus the last few drives when the game was pretty much out of reach (and one player that I'll get to). They were going against a very good Calgary defensive line. I'm sure some will bite my head off for this but I thought that Wallace even did a fairly good job at RT. I haven't watched the replays or watch every play after the fact. But the plays I watched him I thought he was holding his own. Demski and Oliveira were the highlights for me. When they are put into situations to play to their strengths, they can be very good. I just don't think this happens enough. It's hard to say that Dru Brown was good, but I think he's being put in a tough spot. As was brought up by @JuranBoldenRules in another thread, his options are all within 20 yards with DBs and linebackers all over the place within it. I think for the most part he's making the right reads. But he didn't have many open receivers to throw to. The Bad Offensive playcalling has to be number one for me. We have to put Brady in a position to make plays. We aren't. He is our workhorse. If anyone is going to thrive on a short week it is going to be him. But no, we continue to put him out wide for some reason. And we are running too many plays that are sending him east-west. That is not his game. Anytime we had him going up the middle tonight he was making something of it. This will be Stanley Bryant's last year. He is a shadow of his former self. Missing his block left, right and center. When Brox is healthy I'd say we line him up at LT and move on with Bryant. Defensive backs. A step slow tonight. Showed in their ability to tackle. Showed in their ability to adjust to the ball in the air. I get the feeling that Moxey is playing hurt. He refuses to do anything that requires making a play on the ball. It's pretty embarrassing. Nichols, for being a smaller guy, cannot be slow, and cannot be slow to react. I'm not counting him out completely but it isn't looking good. Holm had a terrible game and just didn't seem to be himself. The short week did a number on this group IMO. I thought the receivers had a similar problem to the DBs. We rely so much on Pokey Wilson and Tim White to get separation. They couldn't last night, and I think that lead to many of the interceptions. They didn't have enough and made the Calgary DBs look very good. As has been brought up elsewhere, we need some different types of receivers that can make plays in different ways. Special teams...half step too slow..was all of the difference. Also the 57 yard FG call when our defense was rolling and we could pin them deep. Hated that.

A full cgy defence we woukdnt have...blm not going down...we wouldn't have...we fluked out in Ottawa if we being honest about things...our record flatters us more than anything...and if **** dont change...and fast and drastic.. we may win 8 if we get lucky a few games

I’d like to see us develop wallace more at rt, but he’s not ready right now. Should be poncius if broxton can’t go.

Every team likes to 'set the tone' for a game ..When the opposing team sees a 'passive' start, which has been the case in a lot of our games, we've set the tone...I'm sure the opposition are just licking their chops at seeing the nonchalant way the players are conducting themselves ...easy pickings....Except for a few players on this club that attitude is a harbinger of things to come....That has to end

Coaches don't motivate. That's on the players. Coaches prepare. Can burn the coaches and organization for choosing the wrong leaders on the roster for sure. Our O is a well documented mess in general. Outside of the Toronto game have started slow every single game. We've been taking the ball to start the game when we win the toss and basically never end up with more than a FG attempt. Basically never see any adjustments on O. Will see a drive once a game that's all deep shots or all runs, but no consistent balance or adjustment to overall approach. Our D is never prepared to start the game/half. 3 out of 4 home games (all the ones we lost) we gave up TD drive to start the game on D. First drive out of half (we're almost always kicking off to start because we've been taking the ball), almost always give up big plays/points. Our D never really seems to fire up until 3-4 possessions into the game. But even at their best we're hardly putting any pressure on the ball at any level of the field. Just see teams laughing their heads off at us at how passive we are.

Certainly are not properly preparing the team or having them ready thats for sure. Its not like its the odd rare game here or there where its just a case of bad breaks ..or a team just coming out on fire...its pretty much every game..thats an issue OSH talks of all this film they like to watch..and see what needs correcting...etc..etc..but obviously they dont see the issues...or how to break down film...or both...also maybe practice more and focus a lil more on fundamentals and technique..as a lot of our guys need it

They way the game was going...the oline issues...ineptness of the recievers..the god awful game plan...how cgy started defending us..osh shoulda pulled Dru if for anything not get him pummeled and put in Perkins...not TE...Perkins would have forced CGY to switch things up or get gutted...he coulda controlled the pace of game with his scrambling and I bet a lot of off script stuff would actually get some the recievers to actually find soft spots..but nope...he was too clueless Even yes ...do it in a close game...could have really swung game in our direction...osh has zero game awareness

And id say piss poor coaching..planning..whatever u call it leading up to the game...and who chose the lineup..coaches...who didn't yank..bench..friggin cut on the spot some of the weak assed players who were embarrassing the team.. not just themselves? Ahh yes...our coaches...sure some players carry huge blame..but at end of the day..our coaches chose them...had them basically unprepared to succeed...or execute...and couldn't find it in themselves to adjust anything..or bench anyone...ive said before..and will again...or coaching or lack there of is..and has been killing us..full stop...it can't be disputed Our...were provided with a shitty assignment..game plan...were not properly prepared...were not yanked for und underperforming..on and on..game after game Maybe some of the drops would disappear..some the tackles would be made...some the assignment responsibility would be corrected if we didnt take extra days off practiced...there's a thought..use the jugs machine..mandate 30 straight catches in a row or u dont leave field...seen it done...run over scenarios over and over..and if someone isnt getting it...remove from roster for someone who does...seen that first hand too...essentially..aka...coach your goddamn team and tuck the country club atmosphere up your HC smug ass...there's a thought

The enemy of my enemy is my friend (temporarily)

Start by using the pieces you have to build the best roster you possible can. Not convinced we do that in the slightest, but let's actually put the best team we can on the field and see where it's at. There's no universe where Cobb is one of the best Canadians on the team and needs to be a starter always and forever.

explain.... because I disagree on some levels of this. Yes there was a lack of execution by some players for sure however there's lots of things we CAN point to the coaches needing to do better as well, including putting players, and the team in a position to succeed. Here's one glaringly obvious example of a coaching decision we can criticize..... why the **** are we trying a 58 yard field goal at that point in the game? That wound up being 7 points for Calgary and a bunch of momentum when we actually have a punter that can pin a team deep and who knows from there.

I can't disagree with this enough.... They had a few good moments run blocking but they were not good on the whole. Sad thing is he was worse....

Hired

Elgersma would absolutely do way worse than Brown.

Like I said before..we gotta bury real deep and never dig em bavk up these "qualities/I tangibles" that osh desires and start employing some mean assed bullies..guys who play with attitude and tip toe the edge...and can walk the talk..and find a few specimens to boot..they are easy to find No more waifs.."nice guys"...weak undersized but "high character"...or works hard schmuck...any pro should be working hard Its funny cause when Osh played..he was a right ****...he was one the more sneaky dirty guys..and he took liberty when he could within the rules..and a lot right on the edge...

And with that keep Eli at center between Wallace and Nuef...the bang ain't worth the buck (import spot) with Elsbury which makes our offence inept at best I bet if you gave that trio 3..4 games together in a row you would see positive results

BC in a world of hurt until Rourke comes back, both backups haven't shown much.

With what and how we scheme we could have Bolden..Roy Bennett.. J. Jefferson and Alford out there and they would look inept We play a passive cushion..where we place guys to.just focus on an area..and almost seems they aren't even aware of where some receivers are going and thats why they look so disjointed and confused. Teams watch our film at eat our lunch..pre snap based on look and personelle they know exactly where to go.. shorten or cut off routes knowing our stupid drops and cushion and just eat us up...and we dont adjust or have a adjustment at the ready... We gotta be the easiest team to game plan for both sides of the ball... Just thank the gods walters took Thomas outta the equation on Osh..Jefferson owes Walters lunch a

If the players are not putting out, it is up to the coaches to sit them out, replace, or threaten them. Over the past 2-3 years, the coaches, through their lack of involvement seem to have shown the players that this is good enough. It is not.

One game does not undo all the good Brown had done. Elgersma is very young and raw. Brown has tons of experience and has proven he can win at this level. I still want Zach back and think he gives us out best chance to win the cup, but until he's healthy, Brown should be the guy.

I think you have this amazing ability to gloss over everything a coach can do to put players in positions to succeed and prepare them. I mean the defense gave the team a ton of chances with the ball late but they didn't take advantage of it for a lot of reasons including some coaching ones. Like for example Stanley Bryant has been embarrassing himself every game this seasons. Coaches needed to convince him to hang them or or even cut him in camp if he didn't get the message. Coaches should be building an offense around Brady not making him play receiver and then throw 40 times a game.

And went 4/4. ☹️ Oops, 4/5.

I don't know how you even fix the roster issues we have. This is deeper than just a couple of positions. The problem is, we know Osh will do none of that. It'll be business as usual on Tuesday.

Gatkouth is starting to get his sea legs and confidence..he was already solid in his contain and run defence..especially inside runs and recognizes it quick and doesn't get hosed outside WJ is playing like of old.. and u can see his vet leadership..hes solid..Reese as well...very solid..and he has some serious technique..just fine tune it now and watch out We do need an interior guy to compliment zCerssna and Lawson..Scmeck is good short yardage/goaline guy on both sides of ball...Korn..he who been cut 3x and nobody grabbed him is just a waste...and limited in what position he can play..give his reps to someone else after his pink slip Dixon I wanna see back to further assess as he looked like a good piece. But we should be bringing in a big plugger every week till we find a guy

Bryant out. If vanterpool is healthy start him at rt other wise poncius vs wallace probably poncius. The ol could use more but we don’t have much to go in for subs. Vaval is too good with the ball in his hands not to see action. use him in jet sweep packs, screens etc. Start singer at wr no more 3 nis. strip TC of play calling duties. Bring in lapo if possible. Honestly, i’d let zach call plays whether he is starting or not. Hall takes over play calling duties for now. jy still installs D and such, but hall is the qc and jys boss not working for jy. His adjustments are fantastic, and he doesn’t over complicate play calls. Dl, cut jenkins. Demote korny to pr. bring in imp dts. Cut wilson and start smith. rotation of jones has been pretty good, continue that. Air lift in dbs, rookie imps and vet cuts. most every one in the secondary needs to be pushed. Cut moxey right away. When allen is back try him at that corner spot. DA wj. he’s damn good and already rotating, and nuer has been doing better each game.

It would be nice to see a different tackle in for Bryant, a third american WR in the starting group and somebody like Jackson or Allen for Nichols or Moxey imo. Don't expect it but it would be nice.

We’ve won four times with these receivers and Condell’s game plans.

I really hope we don’t put Wallace at RT if Broxton can’t go. A Bryant-Wallace tackle duo would be a disaster.

I hope they do. He's basically Tre Ford. No arm and no clue from the pocket. Disciplined pass rush is a easy night for a defense.

I saw him by himself,walking back to the sidelines after halftime and he was limping a bit. He didn't need crutches or anything like that so hopefully it's nothing too serious.

Again, I do not know what Booch and others know about line play, but from my perspective, it seemed that there was more confusion on our O-line than getting put on the ground or on roller skates. That would seem to be either players trying to compensate for an inept player (like Pat Neufeld did for Kolankowski) or poor coaching. Broxton seemed to be walking with a normal gait, so I think that was a good sign. Gotta do something about both Elsbury and Bryant, though.

He’s decided O’Shea won’t be blamed. That’s it.

Weird move unless Lauther is hurt as you mentioned.

Ottawa signs Lewis Ward even though kicking has been the one area they have not struggled with. Wonder if Lauther is hurt because he has not missed yet this season.

Cause they suck perhaps...and every team is leaving them in the dust?

We dont...thats the issue...we waste DA spots...we hand starting jobs to holdivers...just because...not earned...but awarded Jenkins just for example...handed job even tho outplayed by multiple guys in camp...shockingly we punted him for Reese who was by far the better one..and watching him play each week he looks nothing like a rookie who will hurt u...Wonder who made that call...did Younger tell osh to do it? Interesting to hear the dynamics but id bet my left and right nut it wasn't an oshea revelation

It’s really confounding how we are soo deep into the season with out a vet wr on the pr, only 1 cover dbs on the pr, more then 1 imp dt on the whole roster, or the fact that our whole roster is just 1 global deep. Other things i’d do, send daniels to the pr. he isn’t bringing any thing and takes snaps away from mci who is better at every thing. Start clercius over nield. I like nield and i think he will be excellent down the road. but he hasn’t produced and every one needs the message that if you don’t produce you don’t play. Bring in some one like masoli to sit in the ir/pr and be a coach with out eating into the front office cap. Actively shop assets like nl/picks/draft rights for young talent. Finally clear out the pr to make room for airlifts.

BC Place made about half a million net on $97 million of revenue in 2025 (almost $23 million of that being direct government subsidies). That subsidy is just a little more than the payment into capital renewal fund/debt servicing still being paid off from the last reno. Lost over $4 million in 2024. To put it simply, that stadium is not making any money off operations. Doubt anyone buys it without some kind of deal with government to cover capital costs/direct government subsidy.

I don't see us dropping to crowds of 15000 but agree a drop is coming.

Pretty much..smart tried and true protocol.. the kind success grows from..continued..not a peak and 5 yr continual slide while you miss out on young established stars in the .making for downside of career vets His post game presser too..no ownership..no accountability for anything..same kinda blind answers confirming he has no clue whats wrong..and or how to fix it..basically a whole bunch of lip service offering nothing of substance..some excuses...but some we can't use that as an excuse..was pretty pathetic...its OK to say "we sucked" "some guys are just not performing how we thought or would like" without naming names but basically pointing out the obvious...maybe some will play with urgency Maybe even say we have some players in house that maybe we may slot into lineup..if that doesn't get a fire burning in some..or get more outta them then its a lost cause..time to revamp..reload and maybe catch lightning in a bottle to close out season and go on a run..this group ain't gonna do it...I dont want them too because that will just give tweedle dee and tweedle dumb currency to bring em all back...puuuuuuke

Watching Osh's expression on the bench last night, after one of the many glaring errors in that game, I caught a look of ' this just ain't working' and a glimpse of defeat and a 'I'm getting tired of this crap'....Having said that it was only fleeting and I doubt he's prepared to change things as he is dead set in his ways.....That's our dilemma

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Why do people keep saying there are too many "deep balls?" We basically throw nothing more than 20 yards. Our YPA on passes the last two games is under 7 yards. The game we actually did have some vertical routes against Toronto the only thing that stopped our O was turning the ball over. We're throwing short and intermediate routes across the field into coverage because the D is dividing the first 20 yards of the field into thirds, one guy in the first 10 yards, one guy at 18-20 yards behind. They are under and over everything we are running because we do not go deep. So the QB looks like a dumb **** because every route he's reading on any play has 2-3 guys in coverage/proximity to it to break it up.

In free agency, we need to change our focus from old players who might have a good season to two left to young up-and-comers. Example: Ayden Eberhardt, not Tim White. We need to change training camp from "it's about what you've done in the past" to fighting for your job every day, every play, every rep. No vet days. No pre-season games off, at least a quarter for every vet. Highly competitive practice = highly competitive play. Relaxed practices = relaxed play. We need to "Buono" the old guys a year or two early rather than wait until they are obviously done. Example: Stanley Bryant MOS needs to change and get with the times. Use every rule to its best advantage. Make sure players are ready before putting them on the roster. Start looking for problems before they become glaringly obvious to the fans. Be ready to change plans ASAP when they aren't working. Less LB's on the AR. Bigger receivers. Change the offense to match Dru's abilities at least until Collaros is back. More Brady O. Less deep balls. We need to find a way to stop making so many errors on defence. Too many wide open receivers deep = too many explosion plays = too many points against.

Thing is tho...in a camp you can and still should be able to assess God given talent..and obviously ability...and yes some certain intangibles...I have my doubts we have the ability to do so. And some the intangibles we covet or look for..dont translate on the field..and I think our coaching staff passes this on to our scouts and effects who..what we bring in..this regime is now flawed on many levels Save for a few random finds..Schoen..Alford..early Nichols..Wilson originally..most our successful guys were know imports brought in via fa