rex Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 TSN just reported that Banks has been suspended for two games for violating the drug policy. Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Atomic and Brandon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wbbfan Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Im not up on recreational drugs. Apparently MDA is similar to MDMA but its more potent and lasts longer. Two guys in one year popped and suspended for rave drugs is pretty silly and dumb. I guess its a new era for the cfl. Once the bastion of recreational drug offenders, but no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Is there a chance this isn't a case of taking Molly at a club, but rather a similar chemical being found in some workout "supplements" that these guys might be taking? Or is there just a really big Molly problem with these American guys in Canada?? Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 51 minutes ago, Noeller said: Is there a chance this isn't a case of taking Molly at a club, but rather a similar chemical being found in some workout "supplements" that these guys might be taking? Or is there just a really big Molly problem with these American guys in Canada?? maybe CFL players just like to party? SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Boy Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 18 minutes ago, 17to85 said: maybe CFL players just like to party? I can remember life as a twenty something almost athlete. When you get that many overgrown kids together there is going to be rec drug use. You would think that athletes wouldn't risk everything but the game of football is a big risk. Just stepping onto the field is a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Fan Boy said: I can remember life as a twenty something almost athlete. When you get that many overgrown kids together there is going to be rec drug use. You would think that athletes wouldn't risk everything but the game of football is a big risk. Just stepping onto the field is a risk. People like to think athletes are above the temptations that other people face but money and fame do not make you into a new superhuman that is invulnerable to all the vices faced by other people. My favourite is the old "Wow if I was making millions I wouldn't <insert silly action>". MOBomberFan, JCon, Bigblue204 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash00 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Atomic said: People like to think athletes are above the temptations that other people face but money and fame do not make you into a new superhuman that is invulnerable to all the vices faced by other people. My favourite is the old "Wow if I was making millions I wouldn't <insert silly action>". Exactly. Not hard to see how many more opportunities to engage in self-destructive behavior present themselves when you are a professional athlete/actor etc. making 6 figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) Noeller, MDA is strictly a party drug. May also be used by docs as an anti-depressant but would never be in an suppliment..(Sorry my quoting is broken still for some odd reason) Edited October 19, 2016 by SPuDS I made a whoopsie Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 31 minutes ago, Atomic said: People like to think athletes are above the temptations that other people face but money and fame do not make you into a new superhuman that is invulnerable to all the vices faced by other people. My favourite is the old "Wow if I was making millions I wouldn't <insert silly action>". Having lots of money didn't help Ray Kroc or Robin Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) Hopefully these young dudes learn something by getting caught/suspended. The penalty, being two games, still allows them to practice and be on the sidelines during the games they are serving? Or they are not allowed to be present during practices until after the second game? According to the cfl cflpa policy, page 21 https://media.cfldb.ca/documents/cfl-cflpa-drug-policy-2010.pdf from the time the player is notified, they cannot participate in team activities and shall loss pay. Except if the team allows them to practice on a without pay basis. Edited October 19, 2016 by Rod Black Found my answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Not a fan at all of Arash Madani on Twitter, but I think he has had some very interesting articles since joining 3downnation. His latest is the challenges teams face in developing a QB at the professional level. Some nice work in getting quotes and info from people around the league. http://3downnation.com/2016/10/18/feature-hard-develop-quarterback-cfl/ SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Noeller said: Is there a chance this isn't a case of taking Molly at a club, but rather a similar chemical being found in some workout "supplements" that these guys might be taking? Or is there just a really big Molly problem with these American guys in Canada?? Having no experience in this world of workout supplements or performance enhancing drugs, is it a difficult process in certain scenarios to fully understand what specific ingredients are in the supplement I'm taking? For example, are manufacturer's not labeling clear enough? Is this a concern for athletes who don't want to cheat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: Having no experience in this world of workout supplements or performance enhancing drugs, is it a difficult process in certain scenarios to fully understand what specific ingredients are in the supplement I'm taking? For example, are manufacturer's not labeling clear enough? Is this a concern for athletes who don't want to cheat? Majorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Not traditionally if bought from reputable sources like popeyes or gorilla Jacks.. they are clearly defined on the packages..it's when you go outside the norm (online or "specialists") where the lines blur. I myself have been using a post and pre workout for awhile and got middling results but if I wanted to spend more (and step into the grey area) I could get my hands on some stuff that is not "legal" for sports or competition but not illegal for me to purchase or use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 minute ago, SPuDS said: Not traditionally if bought from reputable sources like popeyes or gorilla Jacks.. they are clearly defined on the packages..it's when you go outside the norm (online or "specialists") where the lines blur. I myself have been using a post and pre workout for awhile and got middling results but if I wanted to spend more (and step into the grey area) I could get my hands on some stuff that is not "legal" for sports or competition but not illegal for me to purchase or use. Problem is that it's an unregulated industry (for the most part). A supplement company, although 'reputable', could still have errors on their labels. Then you add in third party resellers like Popeye's or Gorilla Jacks, who have no idea what's actually in the products they sell, and you create an area of risk. Tracker and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 It's completely stupid that the CFL is okay with letting players go on the field and risk lifelong injury, and yet it gets its panties in a knot about players doing club drugs. ******* puritans. Bigblue204 and JCon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, SPuDS said: Not traditionally if bought from reputable sources like popeyes or gorilla Jacks.. they are clearly defined on the packages..it's when you go outside the norm (online or "specialists") where the lines blur. I myself have been using a post and pre workout for awhile and got middling results but if I wanted to spend more (and step into the grey area) I could get my hands on some stuff that is not "legal" for sports or competition but not illegal for me to purchase or use. Means nothing. JCon, SPuDS and Bigblue204 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Well yes it's still sketchy at times and as a pro you need to adhere to "buyer beware" and if I was a pro, I'd make my trainers get all my stuff for me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Well i guess we know why they call him Speedy B Nash00, Brandon and Bigblue204 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Atomic said: My favourite is the old "Wow if I was making millions I wouldn't <insert silly action>". Silly action's a ridiculous name for your private parts, and take your pervy talk somewhere else. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold_Palmer Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 hour ago, JCon said: Problem is that it's an unregulated industry (for the most part). A supplement company, although 'reputable', could still have errors on their labels. Then you add in third party resellers like Popeye's or Gorilla Jacks, who have no idea what's actually in the products they sell, and you create an area of risk. Health Canada has a very strict guideline in what they allow in supplements. (more so then America) Yes a supplement brand could potentially get by regulations by lying whats really in the supplement but a company like Popeyes only deals with reputable Supplement brands and the chances of that are slim to none. Any company like Jack3d eventually got busted 3-4 years ago and you're not likely to see this happen again. I manage a Popeyes and I could tell you we are very careful in what we bring in. Our integrity is on the line as well. I would have to assume it's recreational use. Young pro athletes with money who want to unwind from work. Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Al Bundy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said: Health Canada has a very strict guideline in what they allow in supplements. (more so then America) Yes a supplement brand could potentially get by regulations by lying whats really in the supplement but a company like Popeyes only deals with reputable Supplement brands and the chances of that are slim to none. Any company like Jack3d eventually got busted 3-4 years ago and you're not likely to see this happen again. I manage a Popeyes and I could tell you we are very careful in what we bring in. Our integrity is on the line as well. I would have to assume it's recreational use. Young pro athletes with money who want to unwind from work. Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Can you get me a discount on Flavorgod? SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold_Palmer Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Mike said: Can you get me a discount on Flavorgod? Customer appreciation sale this weekend ? Mike and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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