Arash Madani ‏@ArashMadani  8m8 minutes ago

Per @JDunk12: Esks, Riders talking trade. EDM wants No. 1 pick Josiah St. John AND a first for QB James Franklin. SSK, coherently, declined.

Ed Hervey vs. Chris Jones is going to be a real thing to keep your eye on over the coming weeks and months.

To reach for two first round picks, including No. 1 overall, in return for a back-up QB with a handful of pro starts is... hilarious, really

 

 

Im not up on recreational drugs. Apparently MDA is similar to MDMA  but its more potent and lasts longer. Two guys in one year popped and suspended for rave drugs is pretty silly and dumb. I guess its a new era for the cfl. Once the bastion of recreational drug offenders, but no more.   

Is there a chance this isn't a case of taking Molly at a club, but rather a similar chemical being found in some workout "supplements" that these guys might be taking? Or is there just a really big Molly problem with these American guys in Canada??

51 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Is there a chance this isn't a case of taking Molly at a club, but rather a similar chemical being found in some workout "supplements" that these guys might be taking? Or is there just a really big Molly problem with these American guys in Canada??

maybe CFL players just like to party?

18 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

maybe CFL players just like to party?

I can remember life as a twenty something almost athlete. When you get that many overgrown kids together there is going to be rec drug use. You would think that athletes wouldn't risk everything but the game of football is a big risk. Just stepping onto the field is a risk. 

5 minutes ago, Fan Boy said:

I can remember life as a twenty something almost athlete. When you get that many overgrown kids together there is going to be rec drug use. You would think that athletes wouldn't risk everything but the game of football is a big risk. Just stepping onto the field is a risk. 

People like to think athletes are above the temptations that other people face but money and fame do not make you into a new superhuman that is invulnerable to all the vices faced by other people.

My favourite is the old "Wow if I was making millions I wouldn't <insert silly action>".

5 minutes ago, Atomic said:

People like to think athletes are above the temptations that other people face but money and fame do not make you into a new superhuman that is invulnerable to all the vices faced by other people.

My favourite is the old "Wow if I was making millions I wouldn't <insert silly action>".

Exactly. Not hard to see how many more opportunities to engage in self-destructive behavior present themselves when you are a professional athlete/actor etc. making 6 figures.

Noeller, MDA is strictly a party drug. May also be used by docs as an anti-depressant but would never be in an suppliment..(Sorry my quoting is broken still for some odd reason)

 

 

Edited October 19, 20169 yr by SPuDS
I made a whoopsie

31 minutes ago, Atomic said:

People like to think athletes are above the temptations that other people face but money and fame do not make you into a new superhuman that is invulnerable to all the vices faced by other people.

My favourite is the old "Wow if I was making millions I wouldn't <insert silly action>".

Having lots of money didn't help Ray Kroc or Robin Williams.

Hopefully these young dudes learn something by getting caught/suspended. The penalty, being two games, still allows them to practice and be on the sidelines during the games they are serving? Or they are not allowed to be present during practices until after the second game? 

 

According to the cfl cflpa policy, page 21

https://media.cfldb.ca/documents/cfl-cflpa-drug-policy-2010.pdf

from the time the player is notified, they cannot participate in team activities and shall loss pay. Except if the team allows them to practice on a without pay basis.

 

Edited October 19, 20169 yr by Rod Black
Found my answer

Not a fan at all of Arash Madani on Twitter, but I think he has had some very interesting articles since joining 3downnation.

His latest is the challenges teams face in developing a QB at the professional level.  Some nice work in getting quotes and info from people around the league.

http://3downnation.com/2016/10/18/feature-hard-develop-quarterback-cfl/

 

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

Is there a chance this isn't a case of taking Molly at a club, but rather a similar chemical being found in some workout "supplements" that these guys might be taking? Or is there just a really big Molly problem with these American guys in Canada??

Having no experience in this world of workout supplements or performance enhancing drugs, is it a difficult process in certain scenarios to fully understand what specific ingredients are in the supplement I'm taking? For example, are manufacturer's not labeling clear enough? Is this a concern for athletes who don't want to cheat?   

5 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Having no experience in this world of workout supplements or performance enhancing drugs, is it a difficult process in certain scenarios to fully understand what specific ingredients are in the supplement I'm taking? For example, are manufacturer's not labeling clear enough? Is this a concern for athletes who don't want to cheat?   

Majorly.

Not traditionally if bought from reputable sources like popeyes or gorilla Jacks.. they are clearly defined on the packages..it's when you go outside the norm (online or "specialists") where the lines blur.  I myself have been using a post and pre workout for awhile and got middling results but if I wanted to spend more (and step into the grey area) I could get my hands on some stuff that is not "legal" for sports or competition but not illegal for me to purchase or use.

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, SPuDS said:

Not traditionally if bought from reputable sources like popeyes or gorilla Jacks.. they are clearly defined on the packages..it's when you go outside the norm (online or "specialists") where the lines blur.  I myself have been using a post and pre workout for awhile and got middling results but if I wanted to spend more (and step into the grey area) I could get my hands on some stuff that is not "legal" for sports or competition but not illegal for me to purchase or use.

Problem is that it's an unregulated industry (for the most part). A supplement company, although 'reputable', could still have errors on their labels. Then you add in third party resellers like Popeye's or Gorilla Jacks, who have no idea what's actually in the products they sell, and you create an area of risk.

It's completely stupid that the CFL is okay with letting players go on the field and risk lifelong injury, and yet it gets its panties in a knot about players doing club drugs.

******* puritans.

6 minutes ago, SPuDS said:

Not traditionally if bought from reputable sources like popeyes or gorilla Jacks.. they are clearly defined on the packages..it's when you go outside the norm (online or "specialists") where the lines blur.  I myself have been using a post and pre workout for awhile and got middling results but if I wanted to spend more (and step into the grey area) I could get my hands on some stuff that is not "legal" for sports or competition but not illegal for me to purchase or use.

Means nothing.

Well yes it's still sketchy at times and as a pro you need to adhere to "buyer beware" and if I was a pro, I'd make my trainers get all my stuff for me lol

Well i guess we know why they call him Speedy B 

2 hours ago, Atomic said:

My favourite is the old "Wow if I was making millions I wouldn't <insert silly action>".

Silly action's a ridiculous name for your private parts, and take your pervy talk somewhere else.

1 hour ago, JCon said:

Problem is that it's an unregulated industry (for the most part). A supplement company, although 'reputable', could still have errors on their labels. Then you add in third party resellers like Popeye's or Gorilla Jacks, who have no idea what's actually in the products they sell, and you create an area of risk.

Health Canada has a very strict guideline in what they allow in supplements. (more so then America) Yes a supplement brand could potentially get by regulations by lying whats really in the supplement but a company like Popeyes only deals with reputable Supplement brands and the chances of that are slim to none. Any company like Jack3d eventually got busted 3-4 years ago and you're not likely to see this happen again. I manage a Popeyes and I could tell you we are very careful in what we bring in. Our integrity is on the line as well.

I would have to assume it's recreational use. Young pro athletes with money who want to unwind from work. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

7 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Health Canada has a very strict guideline in what they allow in supplements. (more so then America) Yes a supplement brand could potentially get by regulations by lying whats really in the supplement but a company like Popeyes only deals with reputable Supplement brands and the chances of that are slim to none. Any company like Jack3d eventually got busted 3-4 years ago and you're not likely to see this happen again. I manage a Popeyes and I could tell you we are very careful in what we bring in. Our integrity is on the line as well.

I would have to assume it's recreational use. Young pro athletes with money who want to unwind from work. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Can you get me a discount on Flavorgod?

1 minute ago, Mike said:

Can you get me a discount on Flavorgod?

Customer appreciation sale this weekend ?

6 hours ago, Nash00 said:

Exactly. Not hard to see how many more opportunities to engage in self-destructive behavior present themselves when you are a professional athlete/actor etc. making 6 figures.

Two down, hundred more to go.