Bombers at Stamps early chat

[rebusrankin]

Reporters should have pointed out to Hogan that he did this twice in three games.

[wbbfan]

27 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Reporters should have pointed out to Hogan that he did this twice in three games.

I watched the interview and they did talk in general about the multiple situations and he talked about making the same call with zach who also threw a td. 
 

 He really just chalks it up to poor execution and accuracy on the throws. 
 

Parts of it are better than it sounds, but parts are worse. I don’t think he gets that the co and hc are responsible for creating execution through preparation and practice. 
 I think his defence of strevys play is not great either. Clearly Chris is struggling to act quickly. Be it getting the ball out of his hands, rpo, run option or when pressured. 
 

He really harps on being right in his play call. Says he is hard on him self in review and hindsight. 
 

Seems really singular minded. Which matches what I’ve seen from his play call so far. If he thinks he’s right even if it isn’t working, he’s gonna keep doing the same thing. 
 Watching JYs interview it’s easy to see the difference and why his D has bounced back and found ways to excel. And why Hogan hasn’t. 
 

I was disappointed with hogan but happy we got Jackson. Try to hope for the best and give him the benefit of the doubt. 
 But damn, I’m worried about him as OC. Even with Jackson, he doesn’t seem ready. His complete lack of experience with being an OC at any real level is a lot to over come. 

[Slimy Sculpin]

11 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I watched the interview and they did talk in general about the multiple situations and he talked about making the same call with zach who also threw a td. 
 

 He really just chalks it up to poor execution and accuracy on the throws. 
 

Parts of it are better than it sounds, but parts are worse. I don’t think he gets that the co and hc are responsible for creating execution through preparation and practice. 
 I think his defence of strevys play is not great either. Clearly Chris is struggling to act quickly. Be it getting the ball out of his hands, rpo, run option or when pressured. 
 

He really harps on being right in his play call. Says he is hard on him self in review and hindsight. 
 

Seems really singular minded. Which matches what I’ve seen from his play call so far. If he thinks he’s right even if it isn’t working, he’s gonna keep doing the same thing. 
 Watching JYs interview it’s easy to see the difference and why his D has bounced back and found ways to excel. And why Hogan hasn’t. 
 

I was disappointed with hogan but happy we got Jackson. Try to hope for the best and give him the benefit of the doubt. 
 But damn, I’m worried about him as OC. Even with Jackson, he doesn’t seem ready. His complete lack of experience with being an OC at any real level is a lot to over come. 

An old fart of a Bomber fan here. Sometimes you can tell a lot about a person by the way they carry themselves, the way, of all things, they wear hats. Go back a page and check the headgear on the three coaches. O'Shea...very old school, kind of mature, I think. Younger...he's getting there. When he first started, his cap had a really flat, straight brim and more often than not was pointing askew. Hogan...well, I'll leave it to you. And, throw in the sunglasses. IMO, he's a young, arrogant guy who, this early in his career, thinks he knows it all. At this point, he's not going to admit a mistake. IMO, he called the wrong play for the situation. Too bad he's not mature enough to accept even part responsibility. I fear that the O is in for a long, unproductive season reagardless of the talent on the field.

[DTonOB]

3 hours ago, Mike said:

I wish someone had asked him a follow up question. What’s the difference between going up 9 or 13 there? That was an inexcusable call. There was 2:58 left … run the ball twice, kill a minute at minimum … make it a two possession game with 2 minutes and change left.

Even if you give them a 13 point hole instead of 9 … it was first down, you’re giving them an entire extra minute to work with. 

From the scrum:

Q: "What's the benefit of the touchdown in that situation when you're already up 6?"

Jason Hogan: "Putting the game away. Y'know putting the game away. A 'kill shot' is really all it was. Instead of going up 3 (more) it's putting the game away, making it hard on the opponent. Little more momentum, maybe lifting the bench a little more...confidence booster, all that good stuff."

Q: "You don't feel like that same thing applies to being up 9? (blahblah about sergio being 100% FG from there)"

JH: "Sergio is going to hit...no doubt about it. But I think defense tries to go 0, 1, 3. We try and go 6, 3. Right? So that's the mindset behind being in the red zone is trying to be...trying to take shots when we need to when they're there. And we felt at that time was the right time."

[coach17]

15 minutes ago, Slimy Sculpin said:

An old fart of a Bomber fan here. Sometimes you can tell a lot about a person by the way they carry themselves, the way, of all things, they wear hats. Go back a page and check the headgear on the three coaches. O'Shea...very old school, kind of mature, I think. Younger...he's getting there. When he first started, his cap had a really flat, straight brim and more often than not was pointing askew. Hogan...well, I'll leave it to you. And, throw in the sunglasses. IMO, he's a young, arrogant guy who, this early in his career, thinks he knows it all. At this point, he's not going to admit a mistake. IMO, he called the wrong play for the situation. Too bad he's not mature enough to accept even part responsibility. I fear that the O is in for a long, unproductive season reagardless of the talent on the field.

Ya I agree, after watching that , then seeing Younger and the way he handled himself I have no confidence in this new OC. Kind of reminds me a bit of Kellys arrogance. I think its time for a mid season change and put Jackson in charge of that O, otherwise going to be a long season.

[17to85]

18 minutes ago, DTonOB said:

From the scrum:

Q: "What's the benefit of the touchdown in that situation when you're already up 6?"

Jason Hogan: "Putting the game away. Y'know putting the game away. A 'kill shot' is really all it was. Instead of going up 3 (more) it's putting the game away, making it hard on the opponent. Little more momentum, maybe lifting the bench a little more...confidence booster, all that good stuff."

Q: "You don't feel like that same thing applies to being up 9? (blahblah about sergio being 100% FG from there)"

JH: "Sergio is going to hit...no doubt about it. But I think defense tries to go 0, 1, 3. We try and go 6, 3. Right? So that's the mindset behind being in the red zone is trying to be...trying to take shots when we need to when they're there. And we felt at that time was the right time."

Did someone rightly call him an idiot for that answer?

 

I mean he knows that missing that play can lead to a turnover right? Situational awareness is huge as a coach and it was lapos main flaw

[bigg jay]

25 minutes ago, DTonOB said:

 

JH: "Sergio is going to hit...no doubt about it. But I think defense tries to go 0, 1, 3. We try and go 6, 3. Right? So that's the mindset behind being in the red zone is trying to be...trying to take shots when we need to when they're there. And we felt at that time was the right time."

Key part from his own answer, that he's oblivious to, is that they didn't need to take the shot there.

[Mike]

35 minutes ago, DTonOB said:

From the scrum:

Q: "What's the benefit of the touchdown in that situation when you're already up 6?"

Jason Hogan: "Putting the game away. Y'know putting the game away. A 'kill shot' is really all it was. Instead of going up 3 (more) it's putting the game away, making it hard on the opponent. Little more momentum, maybe lifting the bench a little more...confidence booster, all that good stuff."

Q: "You don't feel like that same thing applies to being up 9? (blahblah about sergio being 100% FG from there)"

JH: "Sergio is going to hit...no doubt about it. But I think defense tries to go 0, 1, 3. We try and go 6, 3. Right? So that's the mindset behind being in the red zone is trying to be...trying to take shots when we need to when they're there. And we felt at that time was the right time."

I feel like you not adding your own commentary tells me how you feel about that answer 

 

all I know is he needs to learn from that, because that is an absolute clown answer 

[rebusrankin]

Thinking that your decisions are always right and being inflexible is a huge red flag. Everybody should reflect and adapt.

[17to85]

19 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Thinking that your decisions are always right and being inflexible is a huge red flag. Everybody should reflect and adapt.

Unless you're like me and always right

[3rdand1.5]

Run, run, field goal....period 

Snap at 1 second each...

Clock and score awareness...

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

Did someone rightly call him an idiot for that answer?

 

I mean he knows that missing that play can lead to a turnover right? Situational awareness is huge as a coach and it was lapos main flaw

Lapo’s main flaw is he would have played for the FG there with 10 minutes left in the game to go up 9 and then lose by 2-3 after getting outscored by 11 points the rest of the game.

[Zach Schnitzer]

1 hour ago, DTonOB said:

From the scrum:

Q: "What's the benefit of the touchdown in that situation when you're already up 6?"

Jason Hogan: "Putting the game away. Y'know putting the game away. A 'kill shot' is really all it was. Instead of going up 3 (more) it's putting the game away, making it hard on the opponent. Little more momentum, maybe lifting the bench a little more...confidence booster, all that good stuff."

Q: "You don't feel like that same thing applies to being up 9? (blahblah about sergio being 100% FG from there)"

JH: "Sergio is going to hit...no doubt about it. But I think defense tries to go 0, 1, 3. We try and go 6, 3. Right? So that's the mindset behind being in the red zone is trying to be...trying to take shots when we need to when they're there. And we felt at that time was the right time."

DT did an amazing job of holding Hogan’s feet to the fire. 
 
The play-call was absolutely indefensible. And Hogan’s defensiveness and arrogance in the interview was almost worse. 
 

A couple weeks back, he also lauded his offence’s ability to get 400+ yards, even though they lost by 21 points and most of the yards were in garbage-time. 
 

To be young and inexperienced is understandable. To be defensive, rigid, and arrogant is not. I am officially concerned.