Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

[WinnipegGordo]

 

 

[Arnold_Palmer]

30 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

 

 

Winning the turn over battle, and dominating the trenches, I remember the years  when the Bombers would routinely do that. Who would have thought that correlates into wins! 

[wbbfan]

42 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

 

 

That’s a real good recipe for victory 

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

13 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Winning the turn over battle, and dominating the trenches, I remember the years  when the Bombers would routinely do that. Who would have thought that correlates into wins! 

 

2 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

That’s a real good recipe for victory 

I have no idea how the tall foreheads unlearned this fact these past few years... Here's to hoping that moving forward we keep this up.

[Goalie]

10 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Tackles, oh yay. I'd rather a linebacker make plays than tackles.

So why sign Jones if he's as trash as you say? It still points to a disconnect between coach and gm.

I didn’t say he was trash. Some of you are serious drama queens on here recently. Here’s reality. You and others are going on about a guy who played 1 game had zero tackles and 2 special teams tackles. Was hurt the last 6 weeks of last season. He makes no difference. He wasn’t even playing. It’s like can’t wait till mackonzo gets released so we can hear about how great he was 2 3 years ago now also. What a mistake tho letting a guy go who played in 1 game and made zero difference. Didn’t register a tackle even. 2 sp teams ones but zero actual defensive tackles. Christ. What’s next? Gonna lose your **** when Cobb is released Also?  Cuz this is the equivalent really. A nothing depth piece who did nothing as a bomber. But Argos but 2 years ago. 

Edited 20 hours ago by Goalie

[GCn20]

Has anyone considered that maybe J.Jones just didn't look good in our scheme or maybe he didnt get it, or maybe he half arsed it all year. What he did in Toronto is not relevant if he wasn't that player when he came here. I'm fairly certain we signed him to be that guy but sometimes a change of scenery can be bad for a player. We don't know Jack **** about why he wasn't playing other than the usual assumptions around here. I do know he played here and did not look good granted it was only one game, but the fact remains.

Edited 20 hours ago by GCn20

[17to85]

Ahh yes, the blind trust that our coaches always make the best choices when building the roster. Carry on gents, I don't want to interrupt your cult meeting.

[rebusrankin]

So are we going to do anything with the expanded practice roster this year?

[bigg jay]

43 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

So are we going to do anything with the expanded practice roster this year?

FWIW, Google AI says we used our expansion window in August when we added guys like Moore, Houston & Echols.

[Bigblue204]

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Ahh yes, the blind trust that our coaches always make the best choices when building the roster. Carry on gents, I don't want to interrupt your cult meeting.

It's ok man. I'm sure J. Jones will find a home eventually.

[17to85]

I don't give a damn about Jones in particular,  this is about how our roster is used.

[Booch]

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

I don't give a damn about Jones in particular,  this is about how our roster is used.

mis-used

[GCn20]

Wah wah wah...free agent bust couldn't play up to expectations, someone fire the coach..wah.

[WinnipegGordo]

4 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

So are we going to do anything with the expanded practice roster this year?

Yes, when they get back from the bye.

I wouldnt be surprised if a couple of training camp cuts are brought in.  Maybe guys that they liked but didn't have the room for out maybe they were injured. Just seems to be the team's MO.

 

[Pete Catan's Ghost]

Has Hogan been interviewed about his excellent play calling last game?

 

[ShyGuy]

2 hours ago, GCn20 said:

Wah wah wah...free agent bust couldn't play up to expectations, someone fire the coach..wah.

J Jones and D Mitchell is a perfect example of the duality of fans.

D Mitchell was a dud signing that O'Shea didn't want to use and was a mark against Walters

J Jones was a great signing that O'Shea didn't want to use and that is a mark against O'Shea

Pretty much pick your horse and ride or die with them🤣

Neither player could crack the roster out of training camp... it just happened that there was an apocalyptic amount of WRs that went down and more or less forced O'Shea's hand and now Mitchell is on the AR and Jones is on the scrap heap. Not outside the realm of possibility that if there was a significant run of injuries at LB Jones would probably still be around. 

TBF there definitely seemed to be a bit more noise about why Mitchell wasn't on the AR as opposed to Jones so who knows what really was going on there.

[17to85]

2 hours ago, GCn20 said:

Wah wah wah...free agent bust couldn't play up to expectations, someone fire the coach..wah.

Who says he couldn't play up to expectations?

Really watch Tony Jones.play sometime... see if you think that's an untouchable player no matter what the # of tackles at the end of the game says. He's a decent piece, but he is replaceable and based on what I saw in one game, j. Jones could have easily replaced and done more.

[Super Duper Negatron]

2 hours ago, Pete Catan's Ghost said:

Has Hogan been interviewed about his excellent play calling last game?

 

Pictured: "Hogan"

Edited 4 hours ago by Super Duper Negatron

[bearpants]

I was excited about Tony Jones when he came on the scene for an injured Bighill last year... "excited" as in, this guys will be a great place holder until we find a permanent fit... I never imagined the team would view him as the permanent fit... I thought Jon Jones had a chance to be that guy.... I want a MLB that's a game changer... not just an above average place holder... 

It continues to concern me that we hold on to 30-something linebackers while ignoring and releasing younger players... The silver lining for me is if the plan is to start seeing more defensive reps from Shay and Smith and get more Americans on the D-line... I'm all for it...

[Booch]

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Who says he couldn't play up to expectations?

Really watch Tony Jones.play sometime... see if you think that's an untouchable player no matter what the # of tackles at the end of the game says. He's a decent piece, but he is replaceable and based on what I saw in one game, j. Jones could have easily replaced and done more.

big difference between tackles....and plays....seems to me a lot here would say player X on a different team wasnt as good as the stats seemed to indicate even tho high in league if not leading in tackles...and they are not necessarily wrong....but if it is a case where it's to defend Osh it justified

I dont care about T.Jones tackles....I am tho of his poor drops in zone going up free catches constantly...his over pursuit and missing tackles in space as he plays at times out of control

I also look to meeting guys in the hole...stopping plays for no yards or loss...plays he scrapes an takes down a player for minimal gain...not where it's giving them a 2nd and short

He doesn't make the impact plays...the game altering ones.....doesnt meet the ball carrier first or dictate anything really ....he's good at having play come to him, not the other way around.....he's not a complete impactful LB by any stretch and has more holes in his game than positive attributes....Does J.Jones have moe...based on skill set alone and his work in T,O  yeah....did he show it here...no.....didnt get the chance...but that being said he showed more in pre-season than T.Jones did, but like him..Thomas..Kolo...Kramdi (tho he actually got bumped from sam) their spots were cemented pre-camp regardless what anyone else did

People yap about the game J,Jones played and had no defensive tackles....yet was the best defensive game we put forth all yr...coincided with moving Kramdi and Person actually getting a lot of reps

Like a good DB maybe teams were staying away from him...nobody seems to look at that...also if you watch the tape he was perfect on his drops and where to be in space so there was no free pass in his area....subsequently T.Jones was able to play better in his drops as he saw the depth he should be

J.Jones was removed.....Person went back to 6...7 reps again and until last game the defence never looked as good as that game

Some times its not all about "stats" and what you think you are seeing

This team is saddled with players playing as a personal choice of Osh and it's not necessarily due to true actual on field talent that translates into a game....works to an extent when you are loaded across the board with talent (2019-2022) but we aint now

Flame away flamers....I expect nothing less from the licker of the boots

[Brandon]

25 minutes ago, Booch said:

He doesn't make the impact plays...the game altering ones.....doesnt meet the ball carrier first or dictate anything really

I miss the days when we had Barrin Simpson and Joe Lobendahn smashing guys at the line.    

[rebusrankin]

1 minute ago, Brandon said:

I miss the days when we had Barrin Simpson and Joe Lobendahn smashing guys at the line.    

Heck 2018-2022 Bighill

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, bearpants said:

I was excited about Tony Jones when he came on the scene for an injured Bighill last year... "excited" as in, this guys will be a great place holder until we find a permanent fit... I never imagined the team would view him as the permanent fit... I thought Jon Jones had a chance to be that guy.... I want a MLB that's a game changer... not just an above average place holder... 

It continues to concern me that we hold on to 30-something linebackers while ignoring and releasing younger players... The silver lining for me is if the plan is to start seeing more defensive reps from Shay and Smith and get more Americans on the D-line... I'm all for it...

Don't hold your breath.

[HardCoreBlue]

46 minutes ago, Booch said:

big difference between tackles....and plays....seems to me a lot here would say player X on a different team wasnt as good as the stats seemed to indicate even tho high in league if not leading in tackles...and they are not necessarily wrong....but if it is a case where it's to defend Osh it justified

I dont care about T.Jones tackles....I am tho of his poor drops in zone going up free catches constantly...his over pursuit and missing tackles in space as he plays at times out of control

I also look to meeting guys in the hole...stopping plays for no yards or loss...plays he scrapes an takes down a player for minimal gain...not where it's giving them a 2nd and short

He doesn't make the impact plays...the game altering ones.....doesnt meet the ball carrier first or dictate anything really ....he's good at having play come to him, not the other way around.....he's not a complete impactful LB by any stretch and has more holes in his game than positive attributes....Does J.Jones have moe...based on skill set alone and his work in T,O  yeah....did he show it here...no.....didnt get the chance...but that being said he showed more in pre-season than T.Jones did, but like him..Thomas..Kolo...Kramdi (tho he actually got bumped from sam) their spots were cemented pre-camp regardless what anyone else did

People yap about the game J,Jones played and had no defensive tackles....yet was the best defensive game we put forth all yr...coincided with moving Kramdi and Person actually getting a lot of reps

Like a good DB maybe teams were staying away from him...nobody seems to look at that...also if you watch the tape he was perfect on his drops and where to be in space so there was no free pass in his area....subsequently T.Jones was able to play better in his drops as he saw the depth he should be

J.Jones was removed.....Person went back to 6...7 reps again and until last game the defence never looked as good as that game

Some times its not all about "stats" and what you think you are seeing

This team is saddled with players playing as a personal choice of Osh and it's not necessarily due to true actual on field talent that translates into a game....works to an extent when you are loaded across the board with talent (2019-2022) but we aint now

Flame away flamers....I expect nothing less from the licker of the boots

As @Booch's pr man that he doesn't know he has, what he's saying here is he appreciates the confidence some have in certain players, appreciates the multiple diverse opinions on the matter and may everyone here have great weeks with a loud and passionate GO BOMBERS to unite us.

🙂

[Mark H.]

1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said:

As @Booch's pr man that he doesn't know he has, what he's saying here is he appreciates the confidence some have in certain players, appreciates the multiple diverse opinions on the matter and may everyone here have great weeks with a loud and passionate GO BOMBERS to unite us.

🙂

Thanks for the clarity. He really is the great man that we believed him to be. 🙂