Booch Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 56 minutes ago, Noeller said: I don't want to step on Booch's toes here, 'cause he knows more than anyone on this board, but I think the short answer is: BC just isn't a very good team overall. They have a couple of pieces (Rourke, in particular) which allowed them to over-achieve at times, but that's not sustainable. Just a couple of examples, but Calgary and Winnipeg are better overall teams (deeper, more pieces) and will always be able to manufacture a win in multiple ways (as you saw the Bombers do ad nauseum this year) but BC had to pray Rourke would pull some magic out of a hat to get their wins, otherwise they were at best a mid-pack team all year. Forgive me, Booch, but I *think* that's what was meant... pretty much that....most of Rourkes success was an immediate quick hit.....or a deep toss and hope the receiver won the battle....when the good teams took away the quick first read he was average at best....tossed many a pick, and didnt have the big point totals. And some the games where he had the chuck it up plays they got some serious lenient reffing on a lot of Off PI calls. Also feasted on the basement dwellers early, and skewwed both offensive and defensive stats...had EDM...T.O (when they were in dissaray)...feasted...met us and god molly whopped at home...had a bye then got HAM...SASK...EDM...barely beat Ham who have a good defense, and didnt really paste the Lowly Riders, had a 40-41 win against CGY and also lost to said Riders anyway....not a complete team....all or nothing offense which in cold weather play off ball isnt a recipe for success, and both lines are suspect......in a nut shell....They are almost a smoke and mirror version of 2019 Sask...and will be 1 and done in playoffs rebusrankin, Mark H., JCon and 4 others 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 Couldn't agree more with that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenrider55 Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 I do think Rourke is very good, and will further develop into an elite QB… but Booch nailed it imo. Noeller, Blue-urns and Mark H. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, greenrider55 said: I do think Rourke is very good, and will further develop into an elite QB… but Booch nailed it imo. yeah he gonna be a good one...no question there...but has a lot to learn...feasted early, and who knows what would have went down when rubber really hit the road later in the yr...and as others said....he doesnt have a complete team all around them...they have holes and question marks....who doesn't...but we have minimal...proven track record, and are in the cozy confines of IG for a 1 and your in the Cup scenario...and we are going into that the healthiest we have been all damn yr... Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 BC's a good team who lost their starting Phenom QB in the middle of the season and still managed to make it to 2nd place overall. They're good enough that VAJ has a winning percentage at QB. Their offence is 2nd in points for, 2 ahead of us & number 1 in net offence, despite losing Rourke. Their defence is 2nd in points allowed, 20 behind us & number 1 in picks. The only team a Rourke led Lions, lost to was the Bombers. They beat Calgary twice, once with Rourke and once with VAJ. I wouldn't take them lightly. TrueBlue4ever, Jesse, Fatty Liver and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just now, TBURGESS said: BC's a good team who lost their starting Phenom QB in the middle of the season and still managed to make it to 2nd place overall. This says more about the rest of the league than anything. It's still Winnipeg and then a big dropoff to Calgary/BC... BigBlueFanatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, TBURGESS said: BC's a good team who lost their starting Phenom QB in the middle of the season and still managed to make it to 2nd place overall. They're good enough that VAJ has a winning percentage at QB. Their offence is 2nd in points for, 2 ahead of us & number 1 in net offence, despite losing Rourke. Their defence is 2nd in points allowed, 20 behind us & number 1 in picks. The only team a Rourke led Lions, lost to was the Bombers. They beat Calgary twice, once with Rourke and once with VAJ. I wouldn't take them lightly. I absolutely take them lightly, but for some people to pretend they’re not a good team in relation to the rest of the league is a little silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Noeller said: This says more about the rest of the league than anything. It's still Winnipeg and then a big dropoff to Calgary/BC... I don't think the drop off is as big as you think it is. We won 5 of the 6 "coulda gone either way" games this year. If some had gone the other way, we might be in 2nd or 3rd. Geebrr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, TBURGESS said: I don't think the drop off is as big as you think it is. We won 5 of the 6 "coulda gone either way" games this year. If some had gone the other way, we might be in 2nd or 3rd. AND if your aunt had nuts shed be your uncle...fact of tha matter is CGY is the better all around team even tho record doesnt say so Tracker, Noeller and Stickem 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: I don't think the drop off is as big as you think it is. We won 5 of the 6 "coulda gone either way" games this year. If some had gone the other way, we might be in 2nd or 3rd. if some of our losses had gone the other way, we'd be undefeated forever.... rebusrankin, Geebrr, Goalie and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Noeller said: if some of our losses had gone the other way, we'd be undefeated forever.... 👌 Good teams win and bad teams lose. BC is a ***** ass soft team. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, Geebrr said: 👌 Good teams win and bad teams lose. BC is a ***** ass soft team. christ...they lost to the damn Riders....nuff said Noeller and Geebrr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 Liegghio got screwed IMO. Grant had some big ones but was not overly consistent this season, injured obviously for a good chunk. BBlink, Noeller and Blue-urns 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Liegghio got screwed IMO. Grant had some big ones but was not overly consistent this season, injured obviously for a good chunk. 3 return TDs. That's an automatic nomination, imo. If the definition is "most outstanding", I don't see how Legs qualifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Booch said: AND if your aunt had nuts shed be your uncle... Not in 2022....hey ooooooo! Booch and bearpants 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Noeller said: This says more about the rest of the league than anything. It's still Winnipeg and then a big dropoff to Calgary/BC... So it could be just like last year, or just like 2001. I’ve seen the “we’re untouchable” attitude before, didn’t care for the ending of that movie. No one is disputing the Bombers are the top dogs, but BC isn’t as over-rated as some would like to believe. If one win over them with Rourke is enough to convince us that they have little chance against us and their success is smoke and mirrors, then by that logic one “Molly-whopping” by the Tiger-Cats against us should have us worried. Let’s not judge based on one game, good or bad. Edited October 27, 2022 by TrueBlue4ever TBURGESS, Blue-urns and Bigblue204 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jesse said: 3 return TDs. That's an automatic nomination, imo. If the definition is "most outstanding", I don't see how Legs qualifies. Couple big time field goals, fantastic directional punting basically all year. Solid kickoffs. TrueBlue4ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBlink Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Liegghio got screwed IMO. Grant had some big ones but was not overly consistent this season, injured obviously for a good chunk. Agreed. I think the Bombers missed an opportunity to give recognition to a position that frequently goes unheralded. Legs has gone out there this year and done everything asked of him. Not perfect but what other position calls for it? TrueBlue4ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, BBlink said: Agreed. I think the Bombers missed an opportunity to give recognition to a position that frequently goes unheralded. Legs has gone out there this year and done everything asked of him. Not perfect but what other position calls for it? How did the Bombers miss an opportunity? The team awards are voted on by the local media and the head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBlink Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, bigg jay said: How did the Bombers miss an opportunity? The team awards are voted on by the local media and the head coach. My bad. I thought it was more of an internal thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 Would be curious to see who the team would nominate anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said: So it could be just like last year, or just like 2001. I’ve seen the “we’re untouchable” attitude before, didn’t care for the ending of that movie. Mike O'Shea. Bigblue204 and BigBlueFanatic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Noeller said: if some of our losses had gone the other way, we'd be undefeated forever.... If the other teams had won more games...they could have made trouble for us. Noeller, blue_gold_84, rebusrankin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 hours ago, TBURGESS said: BC's a good team who lost their starting Phenom QB in the middle of the season and still managed to make it to 2nd place overall. They're good enough that VAJ has a winning percentage at QB. Their offence is 2nd in points for, 2 ahead of us & number 1 in net offence, despite losing Rourke. Their defence is 2nd in points allowed, 20 behind us & number 1 in picks. The only team a Rourke led Lions, lost to was the Bombers. They beat Calgary twice, once with Rourke and once with VAJ. I wouldn't take them lightly. Well, we all know that you'd certainly never take the Bombers. JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Well, we all know that you'd certainly never take the Bombers. Saying I wouldn't take BC lightly doesn't mean I expect them to win this week. In fact, I did take the Bombers. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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