It hurts to say because I'm a big fan of Matt, but Streveler is the guy I think right now. 

23 hours ago, Floyd said:

 

Nice catch there, Floyd....

Speaking of Smilin Hank from this weeks Insiders from Penton's Column

Quote

• I coached Henry Burris. Saw him choke in a bunch of big games. But they gave him a microphone, and he has all the answers now. Calling out Paul LaPolice the week his mom died was classless. Henry should come by our place and let me put some old film on. Remind him how many times he ****** up and cost us games. Him. Henry. Not the offensive co-ordinator.

 

1 hour ago, do or die said:

Nice catch there, Floyd....

Oh I caught it but I didn't need to see that picture again.

15 minutes ago, Jpan85 said:

Speaking of Smilin Hank from this weeks Insiders from Penton's Column

 

awesome....100% backs up what I thought was common knowledge, that Burris was massively overrated and regularly choked in big games and especially when it was cold.

17 minutes ago, Noeller said:

awesome....100% backs up what I thought was common knowledge, that Burris was massively overrated and regularly choked in big games and especially when it was cold.

He sadly was (is) a much better QB then Nichols =\ 

2 hours ago, Jpan85 said:

Calling out Paul LaPolice

Burris like the calling out of others...TSN, LaPolice, doesn’t matter, as long as it is not himself.

Clearly overrated.

3 hours ago, Jpan85 said:

Speaking of Smilin Hank from this weeks Insiders from Penton's Column

 

Every week in the Insiders they have someone complaining about the TSN panel. Pretty sure it's the same guy every week.

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

awesome....100% backs up what I thought was common knowledge, that Burris was massively overrated and regularly choked in big games and especially when it was cold.

That's why Hufnagel got rid of him in Calgary. As a starter, he lost in the playoffs in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011 & 12.  That year, the Stamps lost the WSF up in Edmonton. Henry was pulled & Drew Tate finished the game. In the post game media scrum, an angry Henry Burris said there's no way he'd ever be a backup to Tate. He didn't ask for a trade but his message was clear. Hufnagel traded him to the Ti Cats later in the off season.

6 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

That's why Hufnagel got rid of him in Calgary. As a starter, he lost in the playoffs in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011 & 12.  That year, the Stamps lost the WSF up in Edmonton. Henry was pulled & Drew Tate finished the game. In the post game media scrum, an angry Henry Burris said there's no way he'd ever be a backup to Tate. He didn't ask for a trade but his message was clear. Hufnagel traded him to the Ti Cats later in the off season.

Just an awful personality that I would never want on *my* team, ever....

Burris was the best team mate ever when things were going well, and the worst one if they weren't. Guy is a **** personality and when I read the quote in the penton article I immediately thought it was the huffer.

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

Burris was the best team mate ever when things were going well, and the worst one if they weren't. Guy is a **** personality and when I read the quote in the penton article I immediately thought it was the huffer.

I don't think it would be Huff. Maybe George Cortez.

On 2019-08-12 at 10:46 AM, AKAChip said:

Sample size is tiny and one of this two picks was tipped. This isn’t nearly as big a problem as it’s made out to be. 

Small sample size for 2019, yes... but just thought others might be interested in their career numbers:

Career stats (per CFL.ca)
Streveler: 95 / 153 (62%) 1,216 yards, 12 TDs - 7 INTs. He throws a pick about 4.6% of the time.
Nichols: 1,572 / 2,361 (66%) for 18,184 yards, 107 TDs - 59 INTs. He throws a pick about 2.5% of the time.

So Streveler is a more risky QB purely in terms of INT chance, obviously there are more factors at play here, I find the numbers interesting nonetheless though. Also food for thought - Streveler has a better average yardage per completed pass (12.8 yards per pass, Nichols is only 11.6 yard per pass).

11 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:

Small sample size for 2019, yes... but just thought others might be interested in their career numbers:

Career stats (per CFL.ca)
Streveler: 95 / 153 (62%) 1,216 yards, 12 TDs - 7 INTs. He throws a pick about 4.6% of the time.
Nichols: 1,572 / 2,361 (66%) for 18,184 yards, 107 TDs - 59 INTs. He throws a pick about 2.5% of the time.

So Streveler is a more risky QB purely in terms of INT chance, obviously there are more factors at play here, I find the numbers interesting nonetheless though. Also food for thought - Streveler has a better average yardage per completed pass (12.8 yards per pass, Nichols is only 11.6 yard per pass).

You trying to get the thread back on track or something??!!  BLASPHEMY.

Curse you Henry Burris!!!!  Curse you're insensitivities and Grey Cups!!!!

40 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:

Small sample size for 2019, yes... but just thought others might be interested in their career numbers:

Career stats (per CFL.ca)
Streveler: 95 / 153 (62%) 1,216 yards, 12 TDs - 7 INTs. He throws a pick about 4.6% of the time.
Nichols: 1,572 / 2,361 (66%) for 18,184 yards, 107 TDs - 59 INTs. He throws a pick about 2.5% of the time.

So Streveler is a more risky QB purely in terms of INT chance, obviously there are more factors at play here, I find the numbers interesting nonetheless though. Also food for thought - Streveler has a better average yardage per completed pass (12.8 yards per pass, Nichols is only 11.6 yard per pass).

Even including his reps last season the sample size is tiny. 

1 hour ago, Eternal optimist said:

Small sample size for 2019, yes... but just thought others might be interested in their career numbers:

Career stats (per CFL.ca)
Streveler: 95 / 153 (62%) 1,216 yards, 12 TDs - 7 INTs. He throws a pick about 4.6% of the time.
Nichols: 1,572 / 2,361 (66%) for 18,184 yards, 107 TDs - 59 INTs. He throws a pick about 2.5% of the time.

So Streveler is a more risky QB purely in terms of INT chance, obviously there are more factors at play here, I find the numbers interesting nonetheless though. Also food for thought - Streveler has a better average yardage per completed pass (12.8 yards per pass, Nichols is only 11.6 yard per pass).

let's not forget that Streveler was asked to start the first game he ever dressed straight out of college... I think those INTs are actually pretty low for a QB as green as he was under the circumstances... because by all accounts, the majority of fans seem to believe that a new QB must carry a clipboard for at least 2, if not 3, years before he should even be allowed onto the field in the CFL...

What I like about Strevler is he likes to push the ball downfield..he might not progress through all his reads but he immediately goes to the money makers and if not there he takes off as opposed to the check down..accomplishes the same end result in effect..with less wear on Harris in the process.

Ala a young Dunnigan..

21 minutes ago, 66 Chevelle said:

let's not forget that Streveler was asked to start the first game he ever dressed straight out of college... I think those INTs are actually pretty low for a QB as green as he was under the circumstances... because by all accounts, the majority of fans seem to believe that a new QB must carry a clipboard for at least 2, if not 3, years before he should even be allowed onto the field in the CFL...

And he became a QB pretty late in his athletic career. None of this guarantees that he will ever become a CFL starter but it would be nice to know one way or another before he is thrown out onto the field in an emergency relief situation. 

6 minutes ago, Tracker said:

And he became a QB pretty late in his athletic career. None of this guarantees that he will ever become a CFL starter but it would be nice to know one way or another before he is thrown out onto the field in an emergency relief situation. 

He's always been a QB aside from half a season at Minnesota when they moved him to receiver 

18 minutes ago, Atomic said:

He's always been a QB aside from half a season at Minnesota when they moved him to receiver 

He actually asked to do that..wanted more snaps as he wasnt getting any as backup and team took advantage of his skill set as ball carrier.

Would love to see on one of those wildcat formations they hit him an a quick slant or crosser in full gallop..he'd raise some serious havoc in second level with full head of steam.

I hope they also incorporate Janarius Grant into the mix..hes made plays out of the wildcat too in college..completed some passes too..hes a lefty I believe as well

The best thing about Streveler is the attitude. That guy is a warrior and I hope Lapo doesn't neuter him. 

11 hours ago, Floyd said:

You trying to get the thread back on track or something??!!  BLASPHEMY.

Curse you Henry Burris!!!!  Curse you're insensitivities and Grey Cups!!!!

Yes, never interrupt me....when I am in my cups....

9 hours ago, Booch said:

He actually asked to do that..wanted more snaps as he wasnt getting any as backup and team took advantage of his skill set as ball carrier.

Would love to see on one of those wildcat formations they hit him an a quick slant or crosser in full gallop..he'd raise some serious havoc in second level with full head of steam.

I hope they also incorporate Janarius Grant into the mix..hes made plays out of the wildcat too in college..completed some passes too..hes a lefty I believe as well

They tried this last week with Andrew Harris taking the direct snap, with Streveler as the fake on a jet sweep... it was called back unfortunately due to a procedure penalty on Stanley Bryant. In the vid below, it occurs at 1:16:46:

2 hours ago, Eternal optimist said:

They tried this last week with Andrew Harris taking the direct snap, with Streveler as the fake on a jet sweep... it was called back unfortunately due to a procedure penalty on Stanley Bryant. In the vid below, it occurs at 1:16:46:

Apparently youtube is now taking marching orders from TSN...

14 hours ago, AKAChip said:

Even including his reps last season the sample size is tiny. 

Yeh sample size is a big problem in making a pure stats based comparison between Strev and Nichols

 

When there are only 150 passes attempted every single INT brings up his % quite a lot... and as someone else mentioned, probably 3/4 of Strevs attempts were from him coming straight out of college, never having played the Canadian game.   

Nichols stats from his first 3-4 years had him at 3-4% of passes end up as INTs which isn't that far off Strevs numbers.  

On top of that - This year Strev is currently at 15% of passes thrown are INT's which is DEFINITELY skewing his overall numbers up.  Essentially his stats currently are looking at the INT % just after he threw an INT, which hurts his overall % much worse because every INT is a much higher % of his total work.

Last year Stev threw INT's 3.5% of his passes vs. Nichols 2.5% overall - Not a huge difference and Strev was throwing them at the same rate as Nichols was for the start of his career