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  1. Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread

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    23 minutes ago, Brandon said:

    I want to say a few years back O'Shea addressed on why he doesn't play guys in their first year.   I can't remember the exact reason but it is intentional on his part.   I want to say something about shielding them or having them learn from the sidelines.    

    Yet almost every other team has their rookies taking snaps and, in some cases, starting.  Veresuk in Hamilton was runner up as rookie of the year and took over the starting MLB role after 2 games - he would never have gotten a sniff of that here.  

  2. Permission to talk: Is O'Shea leaving?

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    1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

    HC has final say on how talent is assembled, GM has final say on what talent is available to the HC. That's how it works on our team, and every other team out there. Our lack of talent is 100% on the GM. We sit here and grouse about guys like Jake Thomas, but it is Kyle Walters that keeps putting contracts in front of him. Every offseason is an opportunity for the GM to get rid of or keep talent. The HC does not have any form of final say on the roster in that time. It is 100% the GM's job and responsibility as to who will be out there come June. If you know you have a player that you should move on from, even if he is a coaches favorite, it is 100% (and this can't even be disputed) up to the GM to have a tough conversation with a player and the coach who loves him and then swing the axe. It amazes me that you would think otherwise.  During the season, it is tougher on the GM to do that for sure, but at the end of the day he is the boss and the HC is the employee. If that is not the way it works in Winnipeg then Walters isn't doing his job properly.

    This isn't some new phenomenon, for crissakes Walters signed Collaros to a 2 year extension the year after he clearly looked cooked. Is that on MOS? Not a chance. We've been talking about Thomas for the better part of 3 years now. Walters re-upped him twice. Walters hands out the contracts not MOS.

    Show your work - please provide sources for this, just as you ask others to back up their claims.  You've used media reports to back-up other statements but you seem to be ignoring the media reports that say MOS has just about as much say in personnel as Walters.  

    They are both at fault for how this team is composed so it's not 100% on either guy but, IMO, MOS gets more heat as he's more visible of the two and he does get the blame for the gameday decisions.  Where Walters can carry more of the blame is the amount being paid to certain players (ZC, I'm looking at you) and how that may have hamstrung us in other areas.  Also ZC only signed a 1 year extension, not 2.  His 3 year deal already included the 2025 season but he was extended through 2026.

  7. Permission to talk: Is O'Shea leaving?

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    22 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

    What kind of coaching staff is that??? What is so special about Mueller? As far as coaching in the CFL goes, he hasn't won a thing... yet. Even if he does on Sunday, I don't think he's ready. Your other selections? Not impressed. Other than Jackson, they're short on coaching experience & preparation. Miller will stick with Osh wherever he goes. That would be a disaster of a staff. They'd make a good Rifles staff, though. 

    I also think the belief that Osh would leave and not take any of his guys with him is not very realistic.  Biggie is also not likely to happen as he has been very clear about not coaching when he's done. He's going to be all about his family when he hangs them up.

  9. Permission to talk: Is O'Shea leaving?

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    2 minutes ago, Booch said:

    But if given total control basically...he'd have no pushback to deal with

    He was given too much here..and killed us and created rifts with his room and with scouting...There a reason Penn left here...why work your butt off all offseason for nothing...Ted offered him similar role and off he went 

    TBF, Penn says he left because of his loyalty to Ted.  He was the one who brought Penn in to the CFL and gave him a shot.  

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    “I would have followed Ted to any team because Ted was a star, he was my guy, he was my mentor,” said Penn. “I knew that if I was around Ted, I was going to keep learning and growing — not only that, but that I was going to win because wherever Ted went, you knew he’s going to do whatever it takes to win, and he knows how to win.”

     

  10. Permission to talk: Is O'Shea leaving?

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    2 minutes ago, Booch said:

    So Argos apparently wanna give osh big say in personelle...obviously they delusional and wanna be wandering the wilderness aimlessly....have at er

    But new HC and era about to start here. 2 yrs too late but still a good thing

    From what's been reported,  he already has a big say in personnel here so is that really a big selling feature? 

    Just now, wbbfan said:

    Even out side of FA, bc swung a deal last year involving an elite imp T. 

     

    Yep, BC paid peanuts for Allen (who was a pending FA).  There are moves available to be made.

  11. Permission to talk: Is O'Shea leaving?

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    20 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

    Would love Drew back. 

    Manu is struggling with rehab with the Lions. He tweaked his knee and was supposed to be out 4 weeks, which wasn't supposed to be season-threatening. But he's missed 4 games plus a bye week, and it sounds like he isn't close to ready to practice or even have an updated timeline to return. 

    Hard to know what to make of his injury/return. It is the kind of thing that can expedite a guy's departure from a team/league. But facing tough injury rehab is as likely to push a guy out of pro football altogether. 

    I hope for the best for him, he was just starting to get on down there.  

    The last update on Manu was Nov 5th where Campbell said he didn't see him starting in the next week or two.  He's eligible to return on Sunday but he hasn't practiced so that's not happening.

  13. Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

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    44 minutes ago, Goalie said:

    Perhaps it’s just time for both to move on. I’d guess Kyle stays if Osh leaves tho and we see a pretty drastically different off season. Head coach would be priority. I’d be ok with Lapolice honestly. I’d talk to a few others tho like Mueller in Sask and maybe even Younger but don’t see it honestly as he likely follows O’Shea. Maybe if speak to the Argos Mike miller also. Maybe even our Mike miller lol. But honestly. None of the potential head coaches here really wow me. Hamilton obviously talking about the gm position with O’Shea and Argos seemingly willing to give him total control which im not sure ends well.  

    I felt the same when O'Shea was talked about as a potential HC after only 3 seasons as a ST coach and that seemed to workout well.  Any new HC is going to have a learning curve but almost all of the guys being mentioned have a lot more coaching experience than MOS.  JY also has had the benefit of working under MOS so he might be the best bet to slide in without it being a complete teardown/rebuild.

  14. Permission to talk: Is O'Shea leaving?

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    6 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

    I think both Osh & Walters thought his career was practically finished so they refused to pay him & Hardrick moved on. At the time, I can't say I disagreed. I think Lofton played well anyway. We miss Hardrick's leadership in the locker room but not his onfield play. Other guys needed to step up as leaders when Adams, Alexander & Yoshie left & haven't. 

    Walters said it came down to money.  They had just shelled out big money to get Schoen & Brady back but that left them without the cap space for a few other players.  Hardrick was coming off a season where he was the West nominee for best lineman so it wasn't a performance issue and he cashed in with the Riders who made him the highest paid American O-lineman.

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    The Bombers general manager signed both running back Brady Oliveira and receiver Dalton Schoen to lucrative contracts on the same day last Tuesday. Even Walters was surprised that he was able to get both back, but he is now feeling the effects. Both players signed pacts that will pay them around $230,000 each in 2024.

    “It was interesting because, on that day, it was such a high of ‘Holy, I just really can’t believe that it just came together,'” Walters said at a media conference on Wednesday. “But then, it was quickly the next day, when you add the dollar to those, the reality of (it). So, it went to a high of feeling pretty good on Tuesday and not feeling good on Wednesday when you saw the domino effect of what we’re talking about. So, it was short-lived.”

    That domino effect mean that Walters did not have enough money left on the $5.6 million salary cap to attempt to re-sign six starters — defensive end Jackson Jeffcoat, offensive tackle Jermarcus Hardrick, defensive backs Demerio Houston and Winston Rose, receiver Rasheed Bailey and guard Geoff Gray.

    Bombers feeling pinch after signing Oliveira, Schoen to lucrative contracts | northeastNOW

  16. Permission to talk: Is O'Shea leaving?

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    I don't know that they offer him the GM role.  Dinwiddie left because they (MSLE) are pretty happy having Pinball in that role and he has no desire to give it up right now.  That could change if they feel it's necessary to lure MOS away but I also don't know if that's something MOS wants?  I've never gotten the impression he has any interest in a GM role but who knows.

  20. Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

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    2 hours ago, johnzo said:

    Mike Miller?  Is that guy on an OC track?  (I honestly have no idea) 

     

    1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

    Yeah, he was in discussion last year with us. He has been an oc in the nfl and cfl previously. He was an nfl offensive qc/pass game co another 6+ years. 

     

    Just now, Noeller said:

    Are we all talking about the same Mike Miller.....?

    Mike Miller Toronto QB coach, not our current ST coach.

  21. Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

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    35 minutes ago, Noeller said:

    That seems right... So that would be another week from today. So if they wanted to talk to him THIS week, they needed to ask permission... Or else wait until next week. 

    But let's be honest... Rules or no, O'Shea and Pinball are old friends who both are likely to be hanging out this week during GC week. Conversations are going to happen, regardless. But Pinball being Pinball, is going to take the high road and keep up appearances...

    Already have according to Naylor.

     

     

  22. CFL East Division Final: Montreal @ Hamilton

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    1 minute ago, blue85gold said:

    Other than him grabbing his hammy one time, did he look injured? I didn't even notice.

    Yeah he did his best to hide it but he wasn't moving quite right & the Als had MBT warming up for a good chunk of the 2nd half for a reason.   If that happened early in the game, I doubt he finishes so the question is can he last a full game against the Riders?  You'd have to think they're going to bring a ton of pressure in order to make him move as much as possible.  

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