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dude, if I remember right, you ragequit the game broadcast and thread during the @Montreal regular season finale. You cursed the 2024 team as surefire semifinal losers. Maybe it was you who provoked the shenanigans of the wind god? The gods hate a false prophet. I made it thru 1987, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2009, 2010, and 2013. I saw Tom Clements put up three points in 60 minutes at a home Western Final. I've eaten playoff 65-burgers, I've watched internally handled circuses and kneeldown shitshows and Jason Boltus. I was there when Travis Lulay painted Swaggerville orange and when Marcus Crandell won his Grey Cup MOP award. I tuned in for every game of the almost-good-enough Lapo squad that lost ten games by a combined thirty points. We were a potential 14-4 team that played down to 4-14 that year. I'm pretty sure I'm a lifer at this point too.

If it's all the same to you, I'll pass on losing the WSF in Regina! 😂

Blow the wad, screw the SMS, do what it takes. Keep our good players, be active in FA this year, bring in blue chip recruits. This is our all in year.

Those things didn’t help, but he was much worse in the early games before guys got hurt. Worse than every game but the gc any way.

Grey cup aside I thought Zach was quite good the back half of the season. Rest of the offense was very hit or miss. Some fresh ideas on offense certainly might not hurt though I'm not sure if it was a buck problem or a player problem. Guess we will see.

I have absolutely no doubt, that ZC's career was rejuvenated by playing with top notch talent around him.

When you arrive at the outskirts of Edmonton from any direction.

Walters didn't publicly say that they'd violate league rules. Well, personally I am stunned...

Make Doman look like a spend thrift. 20-0 should be the goal.

Toronto sucks all the time.

For some of us, don't care. Welcome to a Winnipeg Blue Bomber site. Enjoy your stay.

Time to go full on amar doman.

yup...exuses are essentially for losers...and he didnt look great with all his players in to start.....and even before the run we made he still wasnt great....wasmt overly great during.....and save for the West Final which may have been one his best games in general since being here, he didnt really look 600kish worthy all yr....and looked typically nad in the Grey Cup...again

What a ******* joke these refs are

I’ll be there.

Holy ****! Hallelujah! ....where's the Tylenol?!?

Wins are a team stat, not a QB stat. If VAJ was our QB, I'd say we'd have won the same number of GC's as we have with Collaros, maybe more. It's not like Collaros lit up the other teams.

We'd have to trade for Powell as (I believe) he's still under contract to the Ti Cats. I can't see the Ti Cats dealing him as BLM is one year older & the injury bug could come back or his on field performance may diminish. Powell could step in. Love to have him here, though.

Ehhhhhhhh not sure we can go THAT far.

Except it's an actual quote from Walters - you can hear it directly from him. https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/11/26/kyle-walters-november-26/ (just after the 20:20 mark).

He also said they haven't discussed it but that MOS & Wade would probably be fine with going over. https://3downnation.com/2024/11/27/kyle-walters-blue-bombers-havent-discussed-but-would-probably-be-all-for-violating-salary-cap-in-grey-cup-host-year/

It's interesting (but not unexpected) that this list is QB heavy, compared to past neg list releases. Some of these guys have been on the radar for a while and were listed on the fall list (Artopoeus) or on the 2023 lists (Book, Gronkowski). I find it interesting to look back at previous years to see how guys have turned out - last year we had Ontaria & Ayers listed (amongst others who did not make the same impact like Kody Case). I wonder who it will be from this year, if anyone, that makes an impact for us in 2025.

Bombers unveil their 2024 winter negotiation list. ???? Chase Artopoeus | QB | Tennessee Chattanooga Ian Book | QB | Notre Dame Malik Fisher | DL | Villanova Eric Garror | DB | Louisiana Tay Gowan | DB | Central Florida Mark Gronowski | QB | South Dakota State Anderson Hardy | OL | Appalachian State Haynes King | QB | Georgia Tech Diego Pavia | QB | Vanderbilt LaJohntay Wester | WR | Colorado

Zach and the receivers were definitely not on the same page in scramble rules at the beginning of the season. He was guessing where they were going to go, and he was guessing wrong more often than not. ZC excels on extending the play but when that happens receivers and QBs have got to be thinking on the same wavelength. Takes a while for that to happen. ZC and KW, KC, and OW just weren't on the same page quite often until around game 7-8. Yea...Wilson and KW ran some great routes and made some big plays, but they were not a result of extending a play. That was our downfall, and Buck really should have given the marching orders to be more conservative until the chemistry was there.

Not last year. A guy like Harris or BLM would have been crushed behind our first 6 games OL. After that....yea probably be a few QBs that would have great seasons with us. Zach got into his own head for a while last year trying to do too much. If he chucks and ducks into the third row 8-10 times more last year instead of forcing things we probably win a couple of those early season losses. I know that sounds Matt Nichols like, but when you have our defence, all you gotta do is protect the ball and not give the game away.

I would add 'in general' right after the word Toronto. 🙂

Some teams have a history that includes long stretches of great coaching. Especially the buono teams. The Argos and bombers are not those teams. We’ve both succeeding with fleeting runs of truly top level coaching. Mos and dinwiddie are quickly rising in the ranks of all time coaches when it comes to wins and gcs. And dinwiddie is a brilliant tactician. Neither guy has entered the level of buono, the don, etc. It’s like Emmitt smith becoming the all time rushing leader. He isn’t a top 5 back of all time or in that tier. He is for forever in the shadow of Guys like Payton, sanders and brown.

I do agree the ol early on gave no help. First half of last year was the worst ol play he’s seen in blue n gold. He was also just not game ready after skipping pre season and parts of camp. The play call was also not conducive to getting the offence in a rhythm the entire year. If zach wasn’t getting time and the WRs weren’t clicking with him buck had nothing to help slow things down and make easy gains. Or adjust to take what the D gave. It was the worst stretch of offense we’ve seen in ages. And many players have blame, none save for maybe Brady are blameless. If healthy the ol are certainly settled together now. I’d really like to see an upgrade at any ol position in the off season. But I think the only chance will be internal development. However just having the unit play like they did down the stretch last year will help a lot. Oc will be a big factor in our success on offence this year. We need some one who can reign in zachs impulse to chuck. I worry that guy doesn’t exist in our staff already. Last year was an embarrassment for zach too. He hasn’t played that bad since the stretch to end it in Hamilton. I’m hoping we see angry motivated zach early and often in 2025.

A ton of that falls on our OL, especially early in the year, and our rotating door of rookie receivers. He got better as the season went on as the OL gelled and the new receivers worked out the kinks.

Demean, denigrate and disparage all you like. But being among the greatest head coaches in the history of the most successful and storied Canadian football team after a mere 4 years at the helm is no mean feat. If we win 8 games next year, he'll be tied with Leo Cahill for 3rd most wins.

I've been binge watching It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and this episode gave me inspiration for tonight's game theme which is the 3rd annual South Asian Heritage Night. Don't blame me, it's all Frank's doing. Stats: 18-7-3 @ 21-9 Streaks: W3 @ W1 Last Ten: 7-2-1 @ 4-6 Game Notes: Hill vs Helle Kupari in, Gus out(injury) Heinola/Stanley partnered up

Feel sorry for Helly..

Anybody here think that if Stanley and Heinola weren't high draft choices they would be toast already? Helly saving us this game..

Rocket by JMo!

It means that he'll have 2 years left on his contract regardless of how many games he plays this year. I believe that's also a cap hit for the team. It's minimal but every dollar counts under the salary cap era. I I still cannot believe the Jets only have four shots on net through 30 minutes of play. I like the score, But kind of feels like we're flirting with fire

Everyone is down in Phoenix now...lol I went to a game one time in Glendale and there were more Manitoba plates in the parking lot than Arizona plates. No word of a lie...

Trade Appleton

I'd say prob more...an average performance even by VAJ would have trumped any thing Zac has done in a grey cup That's something you can't really gauge...that being said being surrounded by the elite talent in its prime like ZC was...a quarterback just had to not be a moron...ZC landed in the ideal spot...I bet VAJ would have been just fine.. and the coaching and environment around him could have elevated his game even more in my opinion ..where has he been on an overwhelming elite team? Look at ZC in last bit of Hamilton and all of aSask...he looked like finished hot grabage

How much of that do you attribute to the O line he's been behind? No way to prove it, but I still say that we'd have done as well with any of the top half of the league QB's because the rest of the team is that good.

Taylor Powell for back up

I feel like he's been good the last few west finals. 2019 was odd since he and streveler split time so much, 2021 west final was ugly for sure.

I will make an even better argument. (pause for effect) Argos suck, will continue to suck and will always suck, not from the Grey Cup as you suggested, but from things that aren't aesthetically pleasing nor smell well. Amen. Happy Holidays!

I think he wanted to show Don Sweeney that he made a big mistake not selecting him for the Four Nations Cup thingy....

Moose have lots of center depth. Part of it is he wasn’t gonna be making the nhl also since had a rough time cracking the moose. Mutual here I’m sure.

oh yes....that too....whatever it takes...cheat...steal....pillage.....give er

Dinwiddie right now is Mike Riley. Young HC with two unlikely Grey Cups in three years.

I can think of several ways......regarding player signings....

Willard Reaves, Jeff Boyd, James Murphy & Sean Kehoe. All Esks HC Pete Ketella cuts in 1983 who ended up with the Bombers & key components in our 1984 GC win. Willard Reaves & James Murphy are both on Bombers Ring of Honour inside PAS.