3 turds plus cranky honker don’t say roster management edition

[wbbfan]

33 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Other than Jeffcoat, I don't believe we've found an DE worth a darn in KW's tenure. Jefferson, Westerman and Vaughters are free agent signings. DT on the other hand, Stove, Bradin Bryant, Poop Johnson, Casey Sayles, we've done all right.

Kongbo was very good, but not fast twitchy pass rusher. But you’re right. 
 

Yeah, it’s sad the position we maybe recruit the best, dt, is one we cling to the worst crutch of a passport at. 

[Noeller]

Hansen was developed here and while nobody's calling him a Willie In His Prime clone, it was pretty incredible how they drafted and developed him into what he became...

[JuranBoldenRules]

2 hours ago, Booch said:

along wiyh the rest of the line...for several yrs....scheme ...coaching and supporting cast perhaps....and it is very easy to neutralize and scheme away from players on a dline when they have have inferior guys playing on it....A guys lack of production isnt necessarily related to ability....but scheme and play call....where we seem to really suck....compounded by half the dline rotation basically sucking....and not just this year...since we punted away Jeffcoat and never replaced our last true interior guys....and or refuse to give who we brought in majority of reps to actually get acclimated...in a groove and feet under them...we continually stagnate and prevent player development here...and not just on dline 

Some guy that's a very good pass rusher, disruptive is a noticeable player even if they make him play safety.

Garbutt is like a 68 OVR player if there was CFL Madden.

Don't need to be told something I had plenty of opportunity to see and believe.  And he's continued to be a plug in Hamilton.

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

And was still better than what they had been using previously 

Jackson Jeffcoat?

No...that was the problem.

Pull your head out of your ass and get out of this tizzy.

Edited yesterday at 10:00 PM by JuranBoldenRules

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, Noeller said:

Hansen was developed here and while nobody's calling him a Willie In His Prime clone, it was pretty incredible how they drafted and developed him into what he became...

100%. He and Kongbo very similar contributions to the D. And both made it extremely easy to rotate them in while adding a dime etc. 

 

we had soo much utility and flexibility with the D during the ships. Dl guys on the bench who could rotate, pressure inside out, allowing wj to do what he likes vs single blocker even dropping back (remember that lol) biggie gave us massive support in pass cover and excellent gap cancelling, kyrie also brought insane range and dependability. Ba was soo damn good at keeping guys on the same page doing the right thing while terrorizing RBs and WRs. Stove and drake gave us the ability to close 2 gaps with 1 guy. 
 

Now we have virtually none of that flexibility or basic ability to execute consistently at a high level. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 hour ago, Noeller said:

Hansen was developed here and while nobody's calling him a Willie In His Prime clone, it was pretty incredible how they drafted and developed him into what he became...

Trailblazer for sure.  One of the few early guys they attracted in the first couple waves who was a good football player.  Too bad he was like 28 when he got here.

Edited yesterday at 10:13 PM by JuranBoldenRules

[Tracker]

On 2025-07-23 at 2:23 PM, johnzo said:

it seems like Strev is having trouble making plays while moving laterally ... he really slows down when he's rolling out with his eyes downfield, and is an easy kill for pursuit.  I guess the point is that the play action freezes the pursuit and gives him the extra time he needs?

Sounds like overthinking.

[17to85]

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Jackson Jeffcoat?

No...that was the problem.

Pull your head out of your ass and get out of this tizzy

I'll be honest, I think you're selling some of those guys short. Not like going to jeffcoat and Willie in their prime,  but they're decent players who can do more than we're getting now. I'm even fine with Vaughters and what he's doing, it's the other end and middle that I have big problems with.

[bearpants]

Are there people really clamouring for replacement level players like Fox and Garbutt?? 

Vaughters and Adams aren't massive improvements... I want better players than what we have now... not slightly worse 

Edited 5 hours ago by bearpants

[bigg jay]

They should be cycling through potential replacements but instead they're standing pat. 

It's not players on the AR or PR either.  Looking at the Bluesky account that tracks neg list moves, we are way more passive than most if not all other teams. Other teams are constantly adding/removing players but we seem to be content with what we have for the most part.

[17to85]

20 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

They should be cycling through potential replacements but instead they're standing pat. 

It's not players on the AR or PR either.  Looking at the Bluesky account that tracks neg list moves, we are way more passive than most if not all other teams. Other teams are constantly adding/removing players but we seem to be content with what we have for the most part.

Try the guys in house,  try new blood, try scrap heaping other teams cuts. But do something rather than going "well maybe this week the old guys will have it"

[Goalie]

There is nobody to replace a Jake Thomas or bridges. Have you looked at our PR? Woodbey is a linebacker. Allen plays safety. Ball is a DB who got on. But that’s it. There’s no DT on the PR. There’s an End in the global guy but no DT of any kind. Jon jones is on the “1 game” but they could insert him for Tony but honestly there’s bigger issues on D than Tony. And the depth isn’t there. 

[17to85]

6 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Have you looked at our PR? Woodbey is a linebacker. Allen plays safety.

Good news! Parker hasn't looked as good at safety as he did previously at corner so bridges out, Parker to corner and Allen at safety. 

Changes aren't as hard as you want to pretend they are. Just use your roster to it's maximum potential.

[Atomic]

Are we sure Can Allen can't play corner??? Seems strange

[17to85]

Regardless, Parker a better corner than he is safety so use guys where they fit best. That includes things like NOT putting linebackers at DE on the depth chart.

[Booch]

1 hour ago, Atomic said:

Are we sure Can Allen can't play corner??? Seems strange

Allen isnt soley a safety...so yeah he can play elsewhere

Woodbey could play any linebacker spot really....sam or safety

Thomas can be replaced by Cobb..Bailey...Vibert...Scmeck even

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

Regardless, Parker a better corner than he is safety so use guys where they fit best. That includes things like NOT putting linebackers at DE on the depth chart.

He a better SAM too than who we employ..

[Bigblue204]

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

Regardless, Parker a better corner than he is safety so use guys where they fit best. That includes things like NOT putting linebackers at DE on the depth chart.

Yeah but then how are we gonna have double digit LBs on the roster? Thats a league rule (is probably something MOS says).