The off-season is officially over. I thought I would make a new thread to start off the season. Looking forward to some camp reports starting with Rookie camp today.

Just now, Bigblue204 said:

And we can say for certain that having less Canadians would accomplish that?

yes....as the players they were playing in front of were better....so a good chance likely....or a better chance

 

12 minutes ago, Mike said:

True but I’d rather win cups

Cups are the only thing that matter. If a NAT needs to be sat to make that happen so be it.

Just now, GCn20 said:

Cups are the only thing that matter. If a NAT needs to be sat to make that happen so be it.

or a global.....as well as a DI lol

9 minutes ago, Booch said:

yes....as the players they were playing in front of were better....so a good chance likely....or a better chance

 

at the end of the day there's no possible way anyone can say one way or the other. Pretending like it's a certainty is just stroking egos.
For what it's worth, I think Cole should be SAM. But i'm not going to say he's the difference maker in those games. The team still had the best record and went to it's 4th GC in a row while starting more Canadians than anyone else. We all know anything can happen in a winner takes all Championship.

17 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

at the end of the day there's no possible way anyone can say one way or the other. Pretending like it's a certainty is just stroking egos.
For what it's worth, I think Cole should be SAM. But i'm not going to say he's the difference maker in those games. The team still had the best record and went to it's 4th GC in a row while starting more Canadians than anyone else. We all know anything can happen in a winner takes all Championship.

I think it’s all made grey by the fact that the last two gc losses were soo close that any single change of an under performing factor likely turns a loss into a win. If biggie played at a peak modp level for instance I think we win. But I don’t particularly blame biggie for the losses. 

19 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

at the end of the day there's no possible way anyone can say one way or the other. Pretending like it's a certainty is just stroking egos.
For what it's worth, I think Cole should be SAM. But i'm not going to say he's the difference maker in those games. The team still had the best record and went to it's 4th GC in a row while starting more Canadians than anyone else. We all know anything can happen in a winner takes all Championship.

 

Just now, wbbfan said:

I think it’s all made grey by the fact that the last two gc losses were soo close that any single change of an under performing factor likely turns a loss into a win. If biggie played at a peak modp level for instance I think we win. But I don’t particularly blame biggie for the losses. 

I refer to Nats and Amerks on the roster ahead of guys due to loyalties....personal likes.....rewards.....and it played a hand in the last 2 cup losses....Jackson use...and by default hamstringing the dline...Hurt guys playing at expense of healthy ones..Biggie...Bailey..Demski..Schoen....Going for hollow stats and hype (Houston) over Rose...ZC playing in previous Cup when it was clear after 1 quarter he was limited....multiple guys dressed who never stepped over the sideline....let alone needed to even bring their helmet

First eye test this yr looks like maybe we finally learned from past failure, because in all honesty we should be gong after our 5th straight cup win in a row....and what better thing to rag on the dickweeds out west about than to say we have won more cups than them in the last 5 yreas than thay have in total in over 100 yrs...plus we have 12 others in our pocket lol

1 minute ago, Booch said:

 

I refer to Nats and Amerks on the roster ahead of guys due to loyalties....personal likes.....rewards.....and it played a hand in the last 2 cup losses....Jackson use...and by default hamstringing the dline...Hurt guys playing at expense of healthy ones..Biggie...Bailey..Demski..Schoen....Going for hollow stats and hype (Houston) over Rose...ZC playing in previous Cup when it was clear after 1 quarter he was limited....multiple guys dressed who never stepped over the sideline....let alone needed to even bring their helmet

First eye test this yr looks like maybe we finally learned from past failure, because in all honesty we should be gong after our 5th straight cup win in a row....and what better thing to rag on the dickweeds out west about than to say we have won more cups than them in the last 5 yreas than thay have in total in over 100 yrs...plus we have 12 others in our pocket lol

I’m more excited for camp pre season and the regular season than I was the last two years, just because of the optimism about this. I think the mafia has learned how far loyalty should extend and when to cut it off. 
 The raptors just rode championship loyalty into the toilet. We haven’t adapted as fast as the stamps did, but I think we got there. 

yup...this yr has a different feel to it....last yr camp was a joke...and pointless in all honesty

Just now, Booch said:

yup...this yr has a different feel to it....last yr camp was a joke...and pointless in all honesty

Yeah last two years camp and pre season seemed like a foregone conclusion before they even started. I expect a real battle this year. Probably a few fisticuffs. 

thanks to DT for updates: 

 

Thanks,DT. 

I think Mike Miller will be an excellent ST's coach, sometimes when  you the best at your position it doesn't translate into the coaching ranks, this will not be the case with Miller

2 minutes ago, bustamente said:

I think Mike Miller will be an excellent ST's coach, sometimes when  you the best at your position it doesn't translate into the coaching ranks, this will not be the case with Miller

1 minute ago, Fatty Liver said:

I knew someone would bring up Gretzky...........fair point

5 hours ago, Booch said:

yes....as the players they were playing in front of were better....so a good chance likely....or a better chance

 

Would playing an extra American have stopped Montreal for putting a td up on our American db? Nope it wouldn’t have. Would it make Zach pull his head out his butt in the playoffs? I don’t think so. 

39 minutes ago, bustamente said:

I knew someone would bring up Gretzky...........fair point

Gretzky was never really the rah rah leader of men type. Messier was. Miller more messier than Gretzky. 

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1 hour ago, bustamente said:

I knew someone would bring up Gretzky...........fair point

Mj in basketball as well. 

Are these gold top set ups going to be the new 3rd uniforms? They are wicked 

Apparently Oliveira and Demski on the Injured Veterans List to start camp. Osh says they're gonna give them extra time to be ready but that they're not worried about them.

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Are these gold top set ups going to be the new 3rd uniforms? They are wicked 

I think what you're referring to is a practice jersey. 

Bombers signed dlineman Jabari Ellis today. He tried out for the Giants in 2022 then played 2 games with Montreal. The Als cut him last summer.

23 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Apparently Oliveira and Demski on the Injured Veterans List to start camp. Osh says they're gonna give them extra time to be ready but that they're not worried about them.

Just a way to free up a few more TC spots, a number of teams are using this tactic.

17 hours ago, wbbfan said:

I think it’s all made grey by the fact that the last two gc losses were soo close that any single change of an under performing factor likely turns a loss into a win. If biggie played at a peak modp level for instance I think we win. But I don’t particularly blame biggie for the losses. 

It was the coach's decision to play him in the Grey Cup.

12 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Mj in basketball as well. 

Dunnigan....tho he had way too much to do as a first timer

 

52 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

It was the coach's decision to play him in the Grey Cup.

and a poor one...same with prob 6 other guys...some injured...some just having no business being rostered

25 minutes ago, Booch said:

Dunnigan....tho he had way too much to do as a first timer

 

and a poor one...same with prob 6 other guys...some injured...some just having no business being rostered

Dunigan also had the misfortune of having an absolute wingnut of an owner.

Jordan didn't coach, he was a gm and owner