I thought why not start a knee jerk reaction thread after a disappointing loss..

I would like to move on from Nichols, mainly because unless everything is running at an optimal level he can't get the job done.

I'd much rather have a guy who can actually run and throw on the run in case the oline has some pressure on them.

We blame the receivers but from my eyes this season it seemed like the receivers did not get passed to them mid stride on a consistent basis. It seems like unless Nichols has numerous steamboats that his passes require the receiver to dive or go high/low to make the catch.

I would not mind handing the keys over to Chris and save a crap load of money signing someone else as a backup.

I'll a take a year of growing pains over a guy who can't rollout and make a pass 15 yards down the field...

QB quality the way it is around the league it's not like Nichols is going to up and disappear any time soon. Glenn found work this season.

2 minutes ago, MOBomberFan said:

QB quality the way it is around the league it's not like Nichols is going to up and disappear any time soon. Glenn found work this season.

He did.  And Nichols would as well.  But not for anywhere close to $450,000 that Nichols reportedly is making.  Bombers should renegotiate his contract but I wonder if O'Shea and Walters will have the temperament to make the right call.

No one is giving Nichols starters money next year.  To me, hes in Lulay territory.  Adequate backup.   Even still, might as well have some youth with upside.

Isn't Rielly a free agent? 

 

If u can get him then u do it and then let Nichols go.  Otherwise u wait till someone steals the job from him. Or did we really not learn anything after Glenn?

 

I get the disappointment in a loss but give your heads a few hard shakes. I rather be in the west final with a chance to win in the fourth vs losing a bunch of games and missing the playoff untill we find a QB that wins. Cuase as far as I see it, sask, Montreal, Toronto all show what its like to play without a good QB.  I don't want to be like them 

 

45 minutes ago, Adrenaline_x said:

Isn't Rielly a free agent? 

 

If u can get him then u do it and then let Nichols go.  Otherwise u wait till someone steals the job from him. Or did we really not learn anything after Glenn?

 

I get the disappointment in a loss but give your heads a few hard shakes. I rather be in the west final with a chance to win in the fourth vs losing a bunch of games and missing the playoff untill we find a QB that wins. Cuase as far as I see it, sask, Montreal, Toronto all show what its like to play without a good QB.  I don't want to be like them 

 

Calgary better win next Sunday because without Mitchell their door to a championship next season slams shut. 

53 minutes ago, Adrenaline_x said:

Isn't Rielly a free agent? 

 

If u can get him then u do it and then let Nichols go.  Otherwise u wait till someone steals the job from him. Or did we really not learn anything after Glenn?

 

I get the disappointment in a loss but give your heads a few hard shakes. I rather be in the west final with a chance to win in the fourth vs losing a bunch of games and missing the playoff untill we find a QB that wins. Cuase as far as I see it, sask, Montreal, Toronto all show what its like to play without a good QB.  I don't want to be like them 

 

The Glenn situation was different as Lefors was a complete unknown and even if there is a chance Streveler fails, he at least knows the offence and has shown promise in limited reps. Bring in a backup with some experience if it’s such a big concern. 

I would argue there are bigger risks with keeping Nichols than with moving on. Sure, this team has proven it can win 10-11 games with Nichols but at this point, that’s clearly the best case scenario. There is a reason Kevin Glenn has never won a cup. You have to take the chance that you find the next Mitchell or Reilly. Teasing us with limited upside regular season success ultimately gets this team nowhere. 

Getting rid of Nicholls without knowing what you have in Streveler. Is like quitting your job before you have another one.  You may have grand illusions that you'll find your perfect job right away but if you can't you usually end up taking jobs that don't necessarily like until the perfect one comes around.

The best thing I can say about Nichols playoffs is that he didn’t turn the ball over.  We don’t win in Regina without Streveler and we had no offense in Calgary.  Nichols did very little to affect the outcome positively in either game.

All season our offense was hugely reliant on the defense turning the ball over and creating great field position for them to score touchdowns.  They had a terrible time putting together drives.

I’d offer Nichols an incentive-laden contract mostly based on number of starts.  If he refuses, cut him.  Nichols will not get any better, he’s lost a lot of mobility and doesn’t have the poise  or arm to make up for it.

6 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said:

Getting rid of Nicholls without knowing what you have in Streveler. Is like quitting your job before you have another one.  You may have grand illusions that you'll find your perfect job right away but if you can't you usually end up taking jobs that don't necessarily like until the perfect one comes around.

It’s more like quitting a job that can’t pay your bills and taking a job that doesn’t pay your bills immediately but has potential for large bonuses.

Like it or not the need is still for proven depth at the QB spot. Throw whoever you want under the bus when the bus passes over that body there better be someone standing there that can play.

People fail to remember too...Nichols missed an open ADAMS in the endzone as well...and no not like Suitor blabbled it wasn't due to wind...it happens..guys miss throws...

12 hours ago, bearpants said:

One year too early...

Steveler doesnt seem ready yet.  But Bombers better see if he can be.  

What are the contract situations like, both under contract for next season?  I wouldnt cut Nichols without knowing if Streveler was the real deal.

The Bombers will be paying for all three QBs next year little more than probably what Reilly is going to be paid.

I said after the game. Streveler will finish 2019 as the bombers Starter.  I dont think he will be named starter out of TC, but probably 5 or 6 games into the season. Nichols has done admirable with his time here. And I thank him for helping turn this franchise around. The Bombers need to take the next step, and I dont think Nichols can get them there.

To clarify, I don't think Nichols goes anywhere. He will be replaced, but still on the roster and maybe play. But I see Streveler taking a big step forward next year and getting more starts.

Edited November 19, 20187 yr by Bigblue204

After settling down I think management rolls with Nichols for one more year, mostly because there's a shortage of quality quarterbacks in the league. If Bo walks, the west suddenly becomes wide open.

You need two quarterbacks in the CFL. If Nichols has another pedestrian year, though, Strev gets the extension and Nichols walks

Edited November 19, 20187 yr by Dr Zaius

I didn't say we would have to cut Nichols,   I'd rather just start Streveler and eventually move on from Nichols.  It would be a tough price to pay having to dish out 400 000 k for a back up... but I'd rather get the guy ready sooner rather then later.     

Nichols isn't going to suddenly get better. If Walters doesn't extend Streveler this off-season then we might as well enjoy watching the kid start for the Blue Bombers in 2019 because he'll be gone in 2020.

Edited November 19, 20187 yr by Doublezero

Streveler is the future and IF his development can be hurried along at a rapid and a respectful pace...…..see ya Nichols that playoff game against Cal. proved to me you're being way over paid and you're not good enough....Watching Bo Levi perform makes Nichols look like a backup of the third string variety...Time to re-negotiate or move on from Matt

Nichols has been just average. I'd place him at 5th best among starters, behind Reilly, Mitchell, Harris and Masoli. I think you could make an argument for Nichols being better overall than Masoli as well.

There are four teams without a "for sure" starting QB right now... BC, Sask, Montreal and Toronto. If Reilly hits the open market the bidding war will hit 600k. Lots of money for one guy.

Anyways it's going to be Nichols next year one way or another. Does anyone really expect any different?

So is everyone willing to give the coaching staff a free pass next season if we go 5 - 13 with Streveler as the starter? 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, B-F-F-C said:

So is everyone willing to give the coaching staff a free pass next season if we go 5 - 13 with Streveler as the starter? 

Ha!  They'll be calling for Bryan Bennett after the first loss.

they are both under contract next year and if Streveler is handed the keys to the offence...or wins it outright in TC we are still paying the same amount for our QB's regardless what order they are on the depth chart...so cutting Nichols would be crazy dumb and still has great value off the bench or as the back-up if Strev faulters...or gets hurt as he plays a physical game....it's 2020 when you have to make the hard SMS decision...not next year

It would be in the teams best interest next year to say the position of the #1 QB is up for grabs...whoever performs best in TC...You go with until they faulter...

Last year I had all these same negative opinions of Matt Nichols.  I tried discussing my opinions with what I thought were other football fans of the Bombers.  All it did it was get me bullied and booted from a website.  This year I will just sit back and read other fans comments.  I don't want to miss out on doing the pick-ems again next year, that makes all the games more fun to watch.  

 

2 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

It’s more like quitting a job that can’t pay your bills and taking a job that doesn’t pay your bills immediately but has potential for large bonuses.

Potential for large bonuses?  There's the risk right there. 

The CFL is a passing league and until Streveler proves he's a passing QB that can also run.  I'll stick with the guaranteed base salary vs. the potential for large bonuses.     

10 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Calgary better win next Sunday because without Mitchell their door to a championship next season slams shut. 

Where does everyone think Bo Levi is going?  I've heard some talk that there's been some NFL interest.  I don't see him leaving the Stamps for anything other than the NFL.  But I'm skeptical he'll get anything more than just an invite to camp.  Is that enough to walk away from a good thing in the CFL and take a chance he gets injured while at camp?