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So walters has been trimming some old folks pretty consistently in offseasons. I'd expect that to continue. I think they need to get back into trying to snag some key pieces through free agency again and put some focus on the lines again.

I sure am not overly optimistic about bringing the 'Miller' band back BUT now that it's a done deal, we better start working on how this is going to go down....We obviously can't make the same errors as this last season....namely roster management (that can be corrected) and the poor decision making that went on in free agency.....There's also no way to sell the re-signing of Thomas to the Bomber faithful and keeping Kola as our centre....Seeing no roster changes being made will send the signal more of the same ....This club has a chance to turn things around and making the same mistakes, that seen us 'just making the playoffs ,will not go over.....Call me a 'jaded optimist' with a touch of pessimism, about the club in general for 26' and hoping for change.... So que the 'dumb and dumber guy' with the subtitle...'so you think there's a chance'....cuz I think that's all we got

More like if we didn't cheap out on a kicker, didn't field injured guys who became liabilities, and if Zach could play even half decent considering his salary we would have more cups.

A couple Winnipeggers made the Fall top prospects list so I'm trying to keep an eye on them so we'll see where the rank with the winter & spring lists come out. Giordano Vaccaro (OL for Purdue, after playing for the Bisons the last few years) was listed at #11 while Trae Tomlinson (DB for Louisiana) cracked the list at #20. Mesidor takes hold of top spot in fall edition of CFL Scouting Bureau - CFL.ca Patrice Rene is one I would have liked them to have held on to. Yeah he was hurt while he was here (and that was the knock on him in college) but we cut bait with him after seeing him in one game. He's since played 51 games over the last 3 years for BC.

"Free agency? Don't talk to me about free agents. You kidding me??? We'll be lucky to sign our own guys before they leave. I just hope we can sign Thomas."

Dline bottom third? uh dead last no?

That should have been a score with nobody around him... He waited FOREVER for that ball.

January will be very telling in who we consider "priority" signings and how long we take to solve the OC issue...the longer we drag thatbout...the more concerning it is as it means any potential upgrade is hesitant in signing on here...and rightfully so, or they are re-uping OC guy....so fairly soon it will be apparent if it more of the same ol ame ol downward spiral, or a true shift...and if some of the usual suspects are re-signed early, and some the others not outright released prior to free agency we are hooped We will have to eat 3 yrs and probably wallow around in the abyss...or can Osh mid-season or after the next flop seson and eat that contract and hand-cuff ourselves, and prob do the ol promote from within...not a very confidence inducing time by any stretch right now.... Schoen wont be seen until the very late stages of 2026...if at all....and even then he should just sit it all out a try a "comeback" in 2027...He should not even be considered an option for 2026 and If HC and G.M intend that as a signing...both should be sent packing now Fact...2023 Grey cup Schoen couldnt run and hadnt practiced in months and wasnt ready to play and even said was shocked to be on roster...Bailey could barely move due to a hammy...Demski couldt run or cut worth **** with an ankle....zero explosion, and Bolo was 100 percent healthy...took zero snaps as our offence got smothered....also of note we had an experienced vet in Ambles....who had been here for weeks...won a Grey Cup against us the previous yr , and was a solid receiver and Osh opted to not dress hi for any of the other 3.....so saying Osh is a pisspoor roster curator isnt a stretch...Thats just one season's example....this has gone on pretty much for all his seasons maybe Osh needs tohave a better eye for talent in camp as to who to keep?....hmmmmm...possible only way you get better....and progress...is with game reps in the CFL...Not in practice....not running up and down field on teams...you need to be integrated to see if player is one to move forward with...or move on from We are worst inleague inder Osh in doing that...and why we have zero depth maybe some people need to be thrown under bus or called out to actually get them to smarten up....if they dont like it...they in the wrong business

I could be wrong, but I swear Bolo signed with the Bombers again after his rookie deal was done. Either way, stop using facts in your arguments. Ok. MOS is horrible. And Walters is a fool and no one knows what is going on with this team.

Draft is just as important. Alford Veresek White Saad Shanks Fortin Findlay Ambers All got starts this year. The Bomber's need to get Smith and Shay on the field. Plenty of goid guards this upcoming draft.

It’s hard to get too excited about anybody until closer to the date when we know who’ll be available. With all the one year deals, there are lots of good players that are potentially available.

Als could have survived that if Alexander had been healthy.

I'm more curious about who's available in FA that we should be looking to spend on...

OShea has always done it according to some formula in his head, but this upcoming year I'm hoping (maybe unrealsitically) he and Walters take a good hard look at what went wrong in '25 that we finished 4th in the western conference. And what is needed to change. Our offense was disjointed and lacked direction. Our oline wasn't good enough. Our dline was in the bottom 3rd of the league. (hard work +Experience) > talent

I agree. A healthy QB doesn't throw most of those picks. Philpot was open but he underthrew him.

Year 1 we win the Grey Cup Year 2 we win the Grey Cup Year 3 we win the Grey Cup 🙂

Well they let wolitarsky walk for clercius.... thats part and parcel of succession planning. You are super obsessed with numbers, yet a guy like Bailey as an example had success here but didn't have it elsewhere. Situations matter. But you are again missing the entire point, the point here is oshea makes bad decisions with the roster, included in that is dressing guys who have shown they are not totally useless and then giving them 0 reps while 3 other players at the same position can barely move yet play the whole game. So how can we trust that oshea is making the best choices possible? We can't.

The entire point of my post is that we didn't need to have Thomas in the first place!

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In 2021 second highest paid made approx 71% of Harris money, third highest was just over half. Ouellette made approx 68% of Oliveira’s salary. 3rd highest was approx 58%. So different, but not by much. *figures per 3Down

With a few players (I think we know who they are) if they are invited back to training camp with no promise of making the team that still wouldn’t sit well with me. Strong messages have to be sent in what expectations are being set for 2026.

Yes, was our QB the highest paid? Nope. Was AH making 250k a season. Nope. I have zero issues with BO being the highest paid RB. It's all about by how much, and whether we have that luxury.

Was Harris not the highest paid rb in the league when we won back to back Cups?

This is not entirely wrong...

I bet if players had made more plays from 2022-2024 we would have 4 cups as well. My bet is even more likely than your bet to be accurate. Despite coaching let downs we were a play or two from winning two of those games for sure. No coach would have overcome the ZC injury. We had nothing behind him. Unless one has the incredibly far fetched idea that Jake Dolegala Or Wilson was going to lead us to victory. The last Grey Cup went down the crapper when Collaros did. He was the only QB on our roster capable of winning that game. That's just the reality of it.

He has good connections with the mb football community outside of the bison as well.

I was wondering when Vaccaro would be eligible for the draft. He was named the best OL in the league (or country) before leaving the Bisons for Purdue. Would be a perfect guy to bring back. Wonder if he gets any NFL interest?

If we have to overspend the cap to quick fix...then we better I'm shocked Miller was all fine with re-upping both...But that being said, maybe he tore them both a new anus and said this is your one yr to fix this before it really spirals I truly dont think we that far off from reclaiming top spot...Just need to go into 2026 with open mind and new purpose and if that means flipping ratio around...tossing some guys to the curb, and actually being a big player in FA ...so be it But if we go into this season as we have....same template...basically same cast of character's...Then Miller should be getting the wrath of our frustration ....I very curious as to what December brings with re-signs with any left over 2025 money that might be there...that will be a good indicator, and maybe an announcement very early on withwho we moving on from and whatour staff is gonna look like

so you want a rift between your G.M and H.C?....No trust in his judgement...after all he is the coach and should see talent/value I agree tho Walter's needs to take more ownership and tell osh for a lack of better word's to "eff off" in some of his ideas YEAH...we dont have to play a Canadian RB...We choose to again...back to coach's eye for talent Kramdi..Thomas..Kolo...Hallett getting major reps...Corcorran...Korny...none those guys would get reps elsewhere like here...I cant see any starting anywhere else....Do a better job with your canadian talent and dont focus on ST only guys...Talented players can play teams....Untalented players who only can play teams dont make adequate backups let alone starters I think you meant what went wrong starting on 2023....that may be a better way to fix it...and stop referencing back to 2019-2021...Osh still lives there

Dobson got market value for 2nd yr deal for a Canadian Olineman....we could have easily kept him....Just look at what the the Human Ole' machine at center makes....drop his money...give it to Dobson....Same with what Thomas pulls in for his 18 games...prob top 3 in snaps on the dline for a grand total of 9 tackles...thats his stat line...18 games...9 tackles.....wow..... lot of our early struggles tho I think can be placed at the feet of another subpar and poorly crafted TC...again......Even some vets said it was an issue I just want t see real competition in camp...No Job is guaranteed/penciled in....no guys getting zero TC participation yet start Game 1.....You show best in camp...you get the spot....regardless of where you from...how long you been here....or in league....plain and simple...roll that unit out game 1-3 and if they gettin er done...keep on rolling, and players keep their spot with performance, or you lose your job. That's the world I came from and am still in with the football I'm still involved with Can Osh facilitate that?...thats the big question...Have my doubts until he shows that and a top ST player too league wide...that alone should have gave ol Osh a stiffer I talking eye for talent on his roster he choose But also other teams have their own pipeline they will exhaust first before scraps from elsewhere...plus it's a slap in the face of your scouting department too, to bypass their workfor other teams cuts...good way tolose staff

100%...I'd say one of the weakest league wide in some time...not just here...was almost embarrassing to be honest, and add to that a OC who couldnt put a game plan together to beat a Prep School team in Texas or Cali...well we saw the results... he's definately give us a player on the all douchewhistle team tho...but other than that...i dunno...not polished....or good route runner...suspect hands...but good coaching could correct that...So uness we can OC Guy we better sign polished pros with many yrs under their belt wasnt that knicked up...and Osh plays guys who shouldnt even dress...let alone be a back-up...so dont buy that crap cause he coud have flipped ratio and played an Imp....but nope...he's a moron so explain the playingof sub par guys...for yrs now in "real" games and not sitting...bemching...cutting them for far more than less than adequate play?....exhibition or not...tc..reg sesson...Of a player shows ability, then reps and a chance to grow is a nobrainer...and that was hardly an exhibition game....and you think the Al's were playing to lose?...no player regardless of the game implications wants to suck ass and lose...and if they are...then shouldnt be on a pro roster...thats just nonesense thing with rookies...you dont know until you know...if you are real good evaluator of talent (which some of our coaches...or coach isnt) then ya you can see the possible benefit/upside, but if never given a chance...you will never know...and rarely develop talent...especially national And why our depth sucks, and we seem to be lacking any impact players...wesuck at developing and transitioning cause Osh stagnates it and values some intabgibles over talent and upside..being here many yrs, or being a vet doesnt always mean "better"....only in Osh's world

Like who? Ford and Dobson? Ford signed for stupid money. Dobson would have been nice to keep but he got a huge raise. Can't pay everyone to be the top at their position.

Alexander wasn't on the field for that game changing fumble.

Alexander's hamstring made it nearly impossible to zing the ball accurately and taking off was not an option. That was the difference.

As long as his slogan isn't Make MBB Great Again.

Funny that we've reached the point in the cycle where MOS just doesn't love his Canadians enough, or in the right way. Sure we could find receipts about how people felt about giving Jesse Briggs reps at WIL, having Kramdi take a breath on a CFL field at all. **** almost wish he went to Toronto so we could get our board back.

Dave Naylor & farhan Lalji said on one of their Grey Cup reports last week that Dru Brown may be free if Ryan Dinwiddie wants to bring in Chad Kelly or Nick Arbuckle to Ottawa via trade. One of the destinations he said could be Winnipeg where Brown could spend the year backing up Zach, still learn more from him & then be the heir apparent. What's your thoughts on that, everyone?

WHY ARE WE ALL YELLING???!!!!!!!!

For me, I expect to be looking forward to individual development. Seeing some young guys take the next steps and maybe move up to an all star level.

I’m sorry was there a game on Sunday?

You thought the kelly and reinbold etc teams were going to get good? I kind of envy that. Free agency/coaching staff announcements will be the huge factor in me being able to find any optimism.

Well there's always hope... I never lost hope in the darkest times with this team, why lose it now?

You’re right, looking at reporting, it seems the initial report is always 1 year extension, then more details come out later. Odd. A 3 year deal in the cfl, is probably the most job security you can find in football. The coaching cap basically makes you untouchable for 2 years and even then likely only able to be replaced with an in house temp for the final year. Why would they fire him? Mos defended him at year end, and the mafia just got a long term lock up. mos/mafia don’t want change, and now likely won’t make significant changes. Do you, or any one else had any hope that this will actually happen?

Have those words been used in the same sentence before?

The one thing I really can’t believe on O is how far they’ve got from recruiting/signing the types of players that succeed with Zach. I honestly DGAF about what any OC wants for personnel past the QB. You have to build around the QB in any league. Ideally for Zach you have a lanky, physical boundary WR, a Fantuz/Schoen type slot just big target pure route runner with excellent skills on scramble rules, a slot like a Tasker or Sterns quick inside leverage target zone killer, your field WR is just a big slab of receiver who can win stick and dagger be reliable, and your 5th guy is a playmaker like a Demski. We have like 2.5 of those things depending on if Clercius learns how to win an inside break and if Schoen is healthy. All of it really relies on that boundary WR though because if teams have to worry about that guy you open up so much space in the middle of the field.

We routinely played more Canadians than required so does it matter if we don't use the advantage?

Yup...als are lucky they extended him

You take that back right now!