TBURGESS Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 North of $400K. More than Mitchell, Reilly, Collaros and Crompton. In Ray and Burris territory. Good for Willy, I guess. I hope he earns it this year and going forward. I still think it's the wrong move. I think that in all fairness, you should probably write a strongly worded letter the the Chair of the Winnipeg Football Club. In it, you can outline your concerns and include your extensive CV which will demonstrate just how informed your opinion is. I'm confident that once they read the letter, they will give it the attention it deserves Lots of folks think whatever the Bombers do is right. I disagree with something the Bombers did. Not the first time. Won't be the last time. I still hope it works out. That being said, do you think that Willy's worth more than the rest of the young QB's in the league? To this franchise he is. I wasn't asking if the franchise thinks he is. I was asking what people's own opinions are. Two very different questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 North of $400K. More than Mitchell, Reilly, Collaros and Crompton. In Ray and Burris territory. Good for Willy, I guess. I hope he earns it this year and going forward. I still think it's the wrong move. I think that in all fairness, you should probably write a strongly worded letter the the Chair of the Winnipeg Football Club. In it, you can outline your concerns and include your extensive CV which will demonstrate just how informed your opinion is. I'm confident that once they read the letter, they will give it the attention it deserves Lots of folks think whatever the Bombers do is right. I disagree with something the Bombers did. Not the first time. Won't be the last time. I still hope it works out. That being said, do you think that Willy's worth more than the rest of the young QB's in the league? Here's the thing, it doesn't really matter what I think. It's what the GM of the Bombers thinks. Personally, I think that this was the right move for a lot of reasons. Firstly, it tells Willy that the organization has confidence in him and believes that he can be the future for us. It also sends the rest of the team a message that the club is serious about getting things done and removing any possible distractions. It also says to everyone that the days of nickel and dime tactics are behind us. We'll pay the going freight, so if you perform, you'll get the coin. We call all those things "optics" and guess what? They matter. Mr Dee and the watcher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted May 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 If Joe Mack were still our GM, he'd say to Willy's agent, "Here's $200k...take it or leave it!" 1/4 of the cap is now tied up in QB and OL, Bob Wylie is full time now... if there's a problem now, its on MB's schemes. This must be the earliest an OC has been thrown under the bus. Then again, we did have Crowton. Not throwing anyone under the bus... but last year and in year's past, Bellefuile's schemes have trended towards conservative and a stationary QB. Just saying that we have possibly the best OL coach, a very strong OL and a good QB... no excuses now Still confident that Walters et al find the powerback that Bellefuile needs though, could be a good year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Have to look at the lack of stability that his organization has had at this position if they believe he is the long term solution than he is worth the money. Its a new SMS age no one is quite sure what fair market value its easy to rip a team when you have the notions of the old cap in your head. If this deal is over 3 years its a win. Knowing what I have heard from people that were in the locker room in Saskatchewan the sky is limit for Drew and is a guy you want leading your team. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 And its official good day for the ball club http://www.bluebombers.com/article/bombers-extend-drew-willy Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Signed through 2017 season MOBomberFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Not throwing anyone under the bus... but last year and in year's past, Bellefuile's schemes have trended towards conservative and a stationary QB. Just saying that we have possibly the best OL coach, a very strong OL and a good QB... no excuses now Still confident that Walters et al find the powerback that Bellefuile needs though, could be a good year Well, you kinda are. With many roster changes, on O, there could be a 'settling time' not related to schemes, but I do get what you're saying about MB. Not known as a force, as an OC, he does have to step it up. But, here's the thing, last year, the O did look like a functioning machine before the wheels fell off. The Offence moved the ball very well in the opening 3rd of the season and looked good in doing it. Now who can say specifically where and when it fell apart? RB? Scheme? Injuries? O-line? Coaching? Lots of areas to spread the blame. But I did see improvement in the O when the wheels were still on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 That being said, do you think that Willy's worth more than the rest of the young QB's in the league? Do you know how much Reilly and Mitchell are making? I know Mitchell gave the Stamps a discount but I haven't heard any actual numbers for him or Reilly. Regarding Collaros, how about waiting until he is extended before comparing salaries. Crompton had never started a game and signed as a buck-up with Montreal. Again how about waiting until he is signed to a starter's deal. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 We had planned for this. The salary cap is not just a year-to-year thing. No big adjustment to the 2015 cap. Walters just said. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 gary lawless ✔ @garylawless Willy's cap hit in 2015 will not change dramatically, says #bombers GM Kyle Walters. So it's bonus now, raise for 16 and 17 #cfl #bn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 We had planned for this. The salary cap is not just a year-to-year thing. No big adjustment to the 2015 cap. Walters just said That's what a lot of people don't understand Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I saw your tweet for MBB, Mike, and it's spot on. MorningBigBlue @MorningBigBlue Kyle Walters just *gets* it. Even more than Drew Willy, he may be the biggest acquisition by this franchise in many years. #Bombers Noeller, Tracker and the watcher 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted May 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Not throwing anyone under the bus... but last year and in year's past, Bellefuile's schemes have trended towards conservative and a stationary QB. Just saying that we have possibly the best OL coach, a very strong OL and a good QB... no excuses now Still confident that Walters et al find the powerback that Bellefuile needs though, could be a good year Well, you kinda are. With many roster changes, on O, there could be a 'settling time' not related to schemes, but I do get what you're saying about MB. Not known as a force, as an OC, he does have to step it up. But, here's the thing, last year, the O did look like a functioning machine before the wheels fell off. The Offence moved the ball very well in the opening 3rd of the season and looked good in doing it. Now who can say specifically where and when it fell apart? RB? Scheme? Injuries? O-line? Coaching? Lots of areas to spread the blame. But I did see improvement in the O when the wheels were still on. Many roster changes? Bryant and Picard will not have a 'learning curve'... Neither will Willy, Moore, Denmark, Kohlert, Cotton... The wheels fell off because MB went increasingly conservative and max protect on his schemes. Lots of times he set Willy up last year from what I saw. Anyway, we'll find out soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted May 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 gary lawless ✔ @garylawless Willy's cap hit in 2015 will not change dramatically, says #bombers GM Kyle Walters. So it's bonus now, raise for 16 and 17 #cfl #bn This I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Not throwing anyone under the bus... but last year and in year's past, Bellefuile's schemes have trended towards conservative and a stationary QB. Just saying that we have possibly the best OL coach, a very strong OL and a good QB... no excuses now Still confident that Walters et al find the powerback that Bellefuile needs though, could be a good year Well, you kinda are. With many roster changes, on O, there could be a 'settling time' not related to schemes, but I do get what you're saying about MB. Not known as a force, as an OC, he does have to step it up. But, here's the thing, last year, the O did look like a functioning machine before the wheels fell off. The Offence moved the ball very well in the opening 3rd of the season and looked good in doing it. Now who can say specifically where and when it fell apart? RB? Scheme? Injuries? O-line? Coaching?Lots of areas to spread the blame. But I did see improvement in the O when the wheels were still on. Many roster changes? Bryant and Picard will not have a 'learning curve'... Neither will Willy, Moore, Denmark, Kohlert, Cotton... The wheels fell off because MB went increasingly conservative and max protect on his schemes. Lots of times he set Willy up last year from what I saw. Anyway, we'll find out soon enough. So we're set at the other 2 positions on the O line, aside from Greaves? The RBs are determined? No new receivers? And don't forget, the O's field position is partially determined by the D and there will be changes there. The new punting rules? Field position. So yes, roster changes. Yes, MB changed his Offence, but if you were watching last year, it was out of necessity, not choice. It didn't work. Adrenaline_x 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 We had planned for this. The salary cap is not just a year-to-year thing. No big adjustment to the 2015 cap. Walters just said. Hey Mike, what about all your long-drawn out speeches about how it's not cool to post in here to prove when you were right? I guess it's different when you do it. Gotcha. You really make me laugh sometimes. Adrenaline_x 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 We had planned for this. The salary cap is not just a year-to-year thing. No big adjustment to the 2015 cap. Walters just said. Hey Mike, what about all your long-drawn out speeches about how it's not cool to post in here to prove when you were right? I guess it's different when you do it. Gotcha. You really make me laugh sometimes. There is not a I or me in that post voodoochylde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 We had planned for this. The salary cap is not just a year-to-year thing. No big adjustment to the 2015 cap. Walters just said. Hey Mike, what about all your long-drawn out speeches about how it's not cool to post in here to prove when you were right? I guess it's different when you do it. Gotcha. You really make me laugh sometimes. There is not a I or me in that post LOL! Gotcha. Read through this thread and it's 100% clear what Mike's doing with that post there. But I'm sure he'll come up with some long drawn out explanation about how it's different. Adrenaline_x 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 We had planned for this. The salary cap is not just a year-to-year thing. No big adjustment to the 2015 cap. Walters just said. Hey Mike, what about all your long-drawn out speeches about how it's not cool to post in here to prove when you were right? I guess it's different when you do it. Gotcha. You really make me laugh sometimes. Those are Walters' words not Mike's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Kirk Penton @PentonKirk 5m5 minutes agoSo it sounds like Drew Willy will be making about the same $250,000 this year, and then he'll be up over $400K in 2016 and 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 We had planned for this. The salary cap is not just a year-to-year thing. No big adjustment to the 2015 cap. Walters just said. Hey Mike, what about all your long-drawn out speeches about how it's not cool to post in here to prove when you were right? I guess it's different when you do it. Gotcha. You really make me laugh sometimes. Those are Walters' words not Mike's Yes, I know, but he's doing it and bolding it to prove he was right. Nit pick all you want, it's clear what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 We had planned for this. The salary cap is not just a year-to-year thing. No big adjustment to the 2015 cap. Walters just said. Hey Mike, what about all your long-drawn out speeches about how it's not cool to post in here to prove when you were right? I guess it's different when you do it. Gotcha. You really make me laugh sometimes. Those are Walters' words not Mike's Yes, I know, but he's doing it and bolding it to prove he was right. Nit pick all you want, it's clear what he's doing. What was I right about? Honestly have no idea what you're talking about. M.O.A.B. and Goalie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 We had planned for this. The salary cap is not just a year-to-year thing. No big adjustment to the 2015 cap. Walters just said. Hey Mike, what about all your long-drawn out speeches about how it's not cool to post in here to prove when you were right? I guess it's different when you do it. Gotcha. You really make me laugh sometimes. Those are Walters' words not Mike's Yes, I know, but he's doing it and bolding it to prove he was right. Nit pick all you want, it's clear what he's doing. What was I right about? Honestly have no idea what you're talking about. We had planned for this. The salary cap is not just a year-to-year thing. No big adjustment to the 2015 cap. Walters just said. Hey Mike, what about all your long-drawn out speeches about how it's not cool to post in here to prove when you were right? I guess it's different when you do it. Gotcha. You really make me laugh sometimes. Those are Walters' words not Mike's Yes, I know, but he's doing it and bolding it to prove he was right. Nit pick all you want, it's clear what he's doing. GCJenks and Mark F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I am RIGHT! I'm hoping I can bold my Avatar once the Bombers pick Demski. Although how do I do that. Bigblue204, Goalie and Mark F 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 We had planned for this. The salary cap is not just a year-to-year thing. No big adjustment to the 2015 cap. Walters just said. Hey Mike, what about all your long-drawn out speeches about how it's not cool to post in here to prove when you were right? I guess it's different when you do it. Gotcha. You really make me laugh sometimes. Those are Walters' words not Mike's Yes, I know, but he's doing it and bolding it to prove he was right. Nit pick all you want, it's clear what he's doing. I don't know about Mike. But I WAS right. When this whole kerfuffle started, I said it would be resolved before TC and that everyone who was panicking was overreacting. So.....HA! Mark F, M.O.A.B. and Adrenaline_x 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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