Mike Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year.Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are... Willy IS the best QB, don't be ridiculous. Suggesting he's not is bordering on idiocy. And you base that on what the fact that Willy has been so successful this year ? Have you checked his stats his QB rating he is very much on par with Max Hall so that puts him clearly in the lead of the current group ? I am not saying he won't be good down the road I can see that Willy does have some very good qualities as a QB however that doesn't mean he is the best QB on the roster we haven't see Marve in a full game and Portis has been on the PR...so until we see them we won't know. I have been to many practices and Willy is accurate when he sees someone open however he doesn't see the entire field and recognize where to go with the ball all of the time and he takes way too many sacks because he needs to throw the ball away sometimes... I have also not been impressed with his practices many times as he has been outworked but the other QBs and to me your Starter should lead the way... Also Willy isn't very mobile. So some good things some bad... but until you see the other QBs play a full game or more you can't say who the best is... Willy needs to improve for me to be convinced he is our future he has the potential to be a very good QB down the road but at this point I am not sure he will be time will tell.... If Willy proves me wrong this week good for him and the Bombers but I am tire of waiting for Willy to turn it around...to me this season is over in terms of the playoff so lets get the other QB's some experience and see what they can do... Willy doesn't have to prove you wrong, because you haven't been proven right to begin with. This is ALWAYS how it works with fans - the backup QB is always the most popular quarterback in town. And did you just ask me to compare his stats to Max Hall? Maybe before checking if I have, you should have double checked to make sure you had before making such a silly statement. Drew Willy's 65% completion rate and 86.1 QB rating are miles ahead of Max Hall and his barely mediocre 57.2% completion rate and 75 QB rating. Not to mention anyone who has been watching the CFL this year has to account for the downward trend in QB rating because of the emphasis on pretty much anything other than passing the ball in the red zone this year. Ricky Ray is the only QB with a reasonable QB rating because guys like Drew Tate, Pat White, Tanner Marsh, Dan Lefevour and yes, even Robert Marve have been involved in a lot of short yardage work in the red zone. Not to mention quarterbacks have been a bit more mobile this year (Drew Willy included, believe it or not) and have been putting the ball in the endzone with their legs as well. All of that contributes to an overall dip in QB rating league wide this year ... not to mention the expanded roster size being devoted almost exclusively to defense has seen offense in general drop off a bit. As it stands right now, Drew Willy is a first year starting quarterback in this league surrounding by the worst protection that ANY QB has at their disposal. Despite all that, he ranks second in the CFL in passing yardage, third in completion percentage and if you'd like, I can show you a whole bunch of statistics that mean a whole hell of a lot more than an outdated one like QB rating that would tell you he's faring pretty decently, all things considered, as well. He's having a very Mike Reilly-esque first year as a starting QB, and just like Reilly last year, that doesn't translate to wins unfortunately, but just like Reilly last year, it's easy to see that Willy has all the tools to expand on his production in 2015 and continue his ascent to elite status in the CFL. sweep the leg, Jacquie, Jaxon and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Typical knee jerk reaction. Marve did well in half a football game therefore Willy should sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublezero Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 It will be interesting to see how Lirim H. does without his #1 holder these next two weeks. I didn't notice...who was the holder after Brohm got injured? Thought I saw Kyle Jones out there holding on the one (missed) FG attempt after Brohm's injury. Terrible luck for Brohm. He played well for us. Hope he recovers 100% and we get him back next season. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 I actually don't see O'Shea as all that stubborn. I'd say reluctant to make significant changes when they were playing well, but after a couple back to back big losses he damned sure changed things up. O'Shea didn't make the significant changes on his own volition, injuries and Grigsby's release determined those changes. Oh yeah Dunn was hurt that's why Unamaba got a starting spot... Grigsby asked to be released because O'Shea played Cotton ahead of him and was going to do it again... Come on now let's think before we say things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Romby Bryant - Aaron Kelly The entire OL shuffle Bruce Johnson - Johnny Sears There have been plenty of moves O'Shea has made all year due to performance, people just don't necessarily like all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 In his Freep column today, Doug Brown said that it would make sense to play Marve for the next couple of games to showcase him. Brown believes that Marve's biggest value to the team is as a tradeable asset. Brown sees Marve as having a set of skills that make him ideal for the CFL, and that more than one team would be interested enough in Marve to offer real value in exchange. We are going to find out how aggressive Walters is prepared to be in rebuilding the team and how rigid O'Shea is in how he plans to run the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 I'd hold onto Marve as long as we can. Until they can replace him or Brohm with something just as good or better, I wouldn't give either of them up. I like Brown, but you don't start handing over good QB's when we finally just got a decent crew. SPuDS and blitzmore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 I'd hold onto Marve as long as we can. Until they can replace him or Brohm with something just as good or better, I wouldn't give either of them up. I like Brown, but you don't start handing over good QB's when we finally just got a decent crew. yep, having 3 qbs that can play is part of the reason why Calgary has been as successful as they have been. Don't piss away the depth just because. As we've seen you can be down to your 3rd stringer in a hurry in this league. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Makes sense. Accumulate depth at QB to trade it away. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 And you base that on what the fact that Willy has been so successful this year ? Have you checked his stats his QB rating he is very much on par with Max Hall so that puts him clearly in the lead of the current group ? I am not saying he won't be good down the road I can see that Willy does have some very good qualities as a QB however that doesn't mean he is the best QB on the roster we haven't see Marve in a full game and Portis has been on the PR...so until we see them we won't know. I have been to many practices and Willy is accurate when he sees someone open however he doesn't see the entire field and recognize where to go with the ball all of the time and he takes way too many sacks because he needs to throw the ball away sometimes... I have also not been impressed with his practices many times as he has been outworked but the other QBs and to me your Starter should lead the way... Also Willy isn't very mobile. So some good things some bad... but until you see the other QBs play a full game or more you can't say who the best is... Willy needs to improve for me to be convinced he is our future he has the potential to be a very good QB down the road but at this point I am not sure he will be time will tell.... If Willy proves me wrong this week good for him and the Bombers but I am tire of waiting for Willy to turn it around...to me this season is over in terms of the playoff so lets get the other QB's some experience and see what they can do... One of the things this site could use - an FAQ section. Mine would be about how to put the gifs in the posts. There are so many facepalms needed right now. A facepalm parade. It's not too late to act. Won't somebody please think of the children? bearpants and Mark F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Marve looked very good, he could possibly push Willy for the starters job next year imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 I'd hold onto Marve as long as we can. Until they can replace him or Brohm with something just as good or better, I wouldn't give either of them up. I like Brown, but you don't start handing over good QB's when we finally just got a decent crew. yep, having 3 qbs that can play is part of the reason why Calgary has been as successful as they have been. Don't piss away the depth just because. As we've seen you can be down to your 3rd stringer in a hurry in this league. Considering we're the team that's already been down to our 4th stringer twice in this short decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Romby Bryant - Aaron Kelly The entire OL shuffle Bruce Johnson - Johnny Sears There have been plenty of moves O'Shea has made all year due to performance, people just don't necessarily like all of them. And until the last couple of weeks how many of those were made? He waited far too long to make changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Marve looked very good, he could possibly push Willy for the starters job next year imo. His biggest strike against him was his total unfamiliarity with the CFL. If he'd been around for more than 3 weeks he might have landed the backup job coming out of camp. His physical tools are pretty remarkable, and he's a really fast smooth runner despite resembling a smallish standup freezer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and Goldfish Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Meh start Willy both games unless injury or the score reflects a need for a change. I want to see how Willy leads this team these last two games, can he still get the boys fired up to play well. He needs these starts, he is still a young QB. Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 This thread is just Crazy. Willy is our Number 1 QB in his FIRST year as a starting Qb.. He needs experience to continue to grow.. we need to play him as he will be the starter next year. Marve showed that he had alot of mobility and drive to extend plays! That is awesome, but so far that's all he has shown. We finally have a QB that that we can Build around (Willy) and we got to keep going with that until Marve outplays him in practise, and in games. When and if Willy Gets hurt, Marve will have another Chance. voodoochylde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Doug Browns idea isn't that stupid. If we could get a 1st round pick or a starting NI O lineman for either Brohm or Marve, I'd make the trade. (I doubt the other GM's would go for it). I agree that it's Willy's team and that he should start if he's healthy, but I'd also like to see more of Marve so I see both sides of this argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Have people actually forgotten our QB crew from last year? We replaced the whole set, and it looks like we scored a few hits. Trade one? We don't even frigging know their true potential yet. And unless Portis is the next one, we should hang on to the ones we have…as long as possible. To even bring up Max Hall and Drew Willy in the same regard deserves the backash that has ensued, and I liked Hall's efforts. blitzmore and Mark F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Marve looked very good, he could possibly push Willy for the starters job next year imo. yeah just like Sunseri was fine and going to be able to do just as well as Durant right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 And you base that on what the fact that Willy has been so successful this year ? Have you checked his stats his QB rating he is very much on par with Max Hall so that puts him clearly in the lead of the current group ? I am not saying he won't be good down the road I can see that Willy does have some very good qualities as a QB however that doesn't mean he is the best QB on the roster we haven't see Marve in a full game and Portis has been on the PR...so until we see them we won't know. I have been to many practices and Willy is accurate when he sees someone open however he doesn't see the entire field and recognize where to go with the ball all of the time and he takes way too many sacks because he needs to throw the ball away sometimes... I have also not been impressed with his practices many times as he has been outworked but the other QBs and to me your Starter should lead the way... Also Willy isn't very mobile. So some good things some bad... but until you see the other QBs play a full game or more you can't say who the best is... Willy needs to improve for me to be convinced he is our future he has the potential to be a very good QB down the road but at this point I am not sure he will be time will tell.... If Willy proves me wrong this week good for him and the Bombers but I am tire of waiting for Willy to turn it around...to me this season is over in terms of the playoff so lets get the other QB's some experience and see what they can do... One of the things this site could use - an FAQ section. Mine would be about how to put the gifs in the posts. There are so many facepalms needed right now. A facepalm parade. It's not too late to act. Won't somebody please think of the children? It's not a GIF, but does this work for you? It actually looks better smaller. You can see Captain Picard facepalming himself better. mbrg and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year.Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are... Willy IS the best QB, don't be ridiculous. Suggesting he's not is bordering on idiocy. Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year.Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are... Willy IS the best QB, don't be ridiculous. Suggesting he's not is bordering on idiocy. And you base that on what the fact that Willy has been so successful this year ? Have you checked his stats his QB rating he is very much on par with Max Hall so that puts him clearly in the lead of the current group ? I am not saying he won't be good down the road I can see that Willy does have some very good qualities as a QB however that doesn't mean he is the best QB on the roster we haven't see Marve in a full game and Portis has been on the PR...so until we see them we won't know. I have been to many practices and Willy is accurate when he sees someone open however he doesn't see the entire field and recognize where to go with the ball all of the time and he takes way too many sacks because he needs to throw the ball away sometimes... I have also not been impressed with his practices many times as he has been outworked but the other QBs and to me your Starter should lead the way... Also Willy isn't very mobile. So some good things some bad... but until you see the other QBs play a full game or more you can't say who the best is... Willy needs to improve for me to be convinced he is our future he has the potential to be a very good QB down the road but at this point I am not sure he will be time will tell.... If Willy proves me wrong this week good for him and the Bombers but I am tire of waiting for Willy to turn it around...to me this season is over in terms of the playoff so lets get the other QB's some experience and see what they can do... Wow, seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 And you base that on what the fact that Willy has been so successful this year ?Have you checked his stats his QB rating he is very much on par with Max Hall so that puts him clearly in the lead of the current group ? I am not saying he won't be good down the road I can see that Willy does have some very good qualities as a QB however that doesn't mean he is the best QB on the roster we haven't see Marve in a full game and Portis has been on the PR...so until we see them we won't know. I have been to many practices and Willy is accurate when he sees someone open however he doesn't see the entire field and recognize where to go with the ball all of the time and he takes way too many sacks because he needs to throw the ball away sometimes... I have also not been impressed with his practices many times as he has been outworked but the other QBs and to me your Starter should lead the way... Also Willy isn't very mobile. So some good things some bad... but until you see the other QBs play a full game or more you can't say who the best is... Willy needs to improve for me to be convinced he is our future he has the potential to be a very good QB down the road but at this point I am not sure he will be time will tell.... If Willy proves me wrong this week good for him and the Bombers but I am tire of waiting for Willy to turn it around...to me this season is over in terms of the playoff so lets get the other QB's some experience and see what they can do... One of the things this site could use - an FAQ section. Mine would be about how to put the gifs in the posts. There are so many facepalms needed right now. A facepalm parade. It's not too late to act. Won't somebody please think of the children? It's not a GIF, but does this work for you? The amount of time and effort that went into that simply cannot reflect the awesomeness of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year. Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are... Buh bye. Don't let the door hit you leaving. blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Ahem, as I said, looks better smaller: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Ahem, as I said, looks better smaller: It looked good even blown up tho... But yes, you are right.. Picard really pops when it's smaller lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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