Mr. Perfect Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Did Pencer even get a hand on him on the sack/fumble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Did Pencer even get a hand on him on the sack/fumble? Pencer played the sack like he was an RT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Mitch Peacock @MitchPeacock1 43m #bombers O'Shea simply said OL Tyson Pencer "wasn't going to make our team" . Attitude? Ability? Coach-no problem with his attitude." #cbcmb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Probably should have played through the flu. Oh well. The real revisionist history in all of this was Mack's version after the 2012 draft talking about 'not having enough firepower' to trade up to #2... Wally gave up 4, 14 and 38 for 2 and 20. Mack gave up 8 and 13 for #3. Pretty comparable... Not really, there's a pretty good difference in my mind between 4 and 8 when a team is trading down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Probably should have played through the flu. Oh well. The real revisionist history in all of this was Mack's version after the 2012 draft talking about 'not having enough firepower' to trade up to #2... Wally gave up 4, 14 and 38 for 2 and 20. Mack gave up 8 and 13 for #3. Pretty comparable... Not really, there's a pretty good difference in my mind between 4 and 8 when a team is trading down. I know you're a Mack apologist but bear with me here... The story, as we are told, is that O'B forced Mack's hand into the trade before Buono made the move. If Mack had been connected, he would have heard rumblings... as if Edm doesn't call the bombers and ask for something... At that time, we had #3, #16, #21, etc... we had the 'firepower' to move up again and get Westerman, Mack sat on his hands and was schooled by Buono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 I am guessing he is going to be the only non import oline released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Probably should have played through the flu. Oh well. The real revisionist history in all of this was Mack's version after the 2012 draft talking about 'not having enough firepower' to trade up to #2... Wally gave up 4, 14 and 38 for 2 and 20. Mack gave up 8 and 13 for #3. Pretty comparable... Not really, there's a pretty good difference in my mind between 4 and 8 when a team is trading down. I know you're a Mack apologist but bear with me here... The story, as we are told, is that O'B forced Mack's hand into the trade before Buono made the move. If Mack had been connected, he would have heard rumblings... as if Edm doesn't call the bombers and ask for something... At that time, we had #3, #16, #21, etc... we had the 'firepower' to move up again and get Westerman, Mack sat on his hands and was schooled by Buono. You're doing a lot of assuming in this scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddman19 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 I think with Pencer being cut, it shows Walters/Oshea have more confidence in their own guys that they brought in. Would love to see Goosen be a bonafide player for the Bombers for a long time. Hopefully the change in drafting strategy proves beneficial! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 This is good. Get it all out boys. This here moment, regarding Pencer, has been building up for a long time. Now we can lance the boil, talk about the pain, and then, just heal. This too shall pass. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Pencer cut = One less thing to argue about going forward. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Pencer cut = One less thing to argue about going forward. With Mack, Pencer, Etienne and Poblah now gone, what are we going to argue about? Floyd and Blue-urns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Probably should have played through the flu. Oh well. The real revisionist history in all of this was Mack's version after the 2012 draft talking about 'not having enough firepower' to trade up to #2... Wally gave up 4, 14 and 38 for 2 and 20. Mack gave up 8 and 13 for #3. Pretty comparable... Not really, there's a pretty good difference in my mind between 4 and 8 when a team is trading down. I know you're a Mack apologist but bear with me here... The story, as we are told, is that O'B forced Mack's hand into the trade before Buono made the move. If Mack had been connected, he would have heard rumblings... as if Edm doesn't call the bombers and ask for something... At that time, we had #3, #16, #21, etc... we had the 'firepower' to move up again and get Westerman, Mack sat on his hands and was schooled by Buono. you are assuming Edmonton was actually looking to move their #2. The way I see the situation unfolding is that Mack had the optional move with Hamilton made but BC was asking Hamilton about #3 as well so Hamilton says to Mack **** or get off the pot we got other teams interested, so he pulls the trigger. After that I see BC going hard for Edmontons pick moreso than anything else and those two teams dealing with each other not really caring about what other teams are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Pencer cut = One less thing to argue about going forward. With Mack, Pencer, Etienne and Poblah now gone, what are we going to argue about? Poblah was a pretty silly argument to have anyway, everyone and their dog agreed that he was a prospect well worth using a first rounder on and if he was in the draft he likely was the #1 pick. Just happened that the guy couldn't translate all those physical tools into anything of substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Poblah was a pretty silly argument to have anyway, everyone and their dog agreed that he was a prospect well worth using a first rounder on and if he was in the draft he likely was the #1 pick. Just happened that the guy couldn't translate all those physical tools into anything of substance. That being said, if he lights it up with BC this year I'm going to be extremely choked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 I thought i remember hearing edmonton wanted a first round pick back in their trade, they wanted chambers, we didn't have a first cuz we took kito in the supplemental draft the year before. We couldn't trade with edmonton for 2 because we didn't have a first round pick to give back to them. Not overly shocking though. Didn't look good on monday at all. Surprised a little bit that Kowalczuk is still on the roster though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Pencer cut = One less thing to argue about going forward. With Mack, Pencer, Etienne and Poblah now gone, what are we going to argue about? Poblah was a pretty silly argument to have anyway, everyone and their dog agreed that he was a prospect well worth using a first rounder on and if he was in the draft he likely was the #1 pick. Just happened that the guy couldn't translate all those physical tools into anything of substance. Exactly. Sometimes a pick is bad because you don't do your homework. (Pencer) And then sometimes a pick is bad just because they can't figure it out. (Poblah) Poblah was about as surefire of a choice as there was coming out of college. Hell, he was being recruited as an import before his eligibility was established. Remember how dominant he was in training camp the first year he was here? I remember Jovon Johnson saying he's as tough a matchup one on one as he had ever faced in practice. And then as it turned out, he sucked when the lights came on. Jethro and Blue-urns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Pencer cut = One less thing to argue about going forward. With Mack, Pencer, Etienne and Poblah now gone, what are we going to argue about? Poblah was a pretty silly argument to have anyway, everyone and their dog agreed that he was a prospect well worth using a first rounder on and if he was in the draft he likely was the #1 pick. Just happened that the guy couldn't translate all those physical tools into anything of substance. Exactly. Sometimes a pick is bad because you don't do your homework. (Pencer) And then sometimes a pick is bad just because they can't figure it out. (Poblah) Poblah was about as surefire of a choice as there was coming out of college. Hell, he was being recruited as an import before his eligibility was established. Remember how dominant he was in training camp the first year he was here? I remember Jovon Johnson saying he's as tough a matchup one on one as he had ever faced in practice. And then as it turned out, he sucked when the lights came on. And, I think part of it is just how inconsistently we use our NI skill position players .. we draft guys like Volny and Woodson .. and there's no real plan to use these guys (this is a pet peeve of mine) .. Poblah was a great prospect but perhaps he just never found his niche in the offense because of how he was used .. just tossing it out there for the sake of discussion .. I *DO* hope the guy succeeds .. has the physical tools to make a career of it .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Pencer cut = One less thing to argue about going forward. With Mack, Pencer, Etienne and Poblah now gone, what are we going to argue about? Poblah was a pretty silly argument to have anyway, everyone and their dog agreed that he was a prospect well worth using a first rounder on and if he was in the draft he likely was the #1 pick. Just happened that the guy couldn't translate all those physical tools into anything of substance. Exactly. Sometimes a pick is bad because you don't do your homework. (Pencer) And then sometimes a pick is bad just because they can't figure it out. (Poblah) Poblah was about as surefire of a choice as there was coming out of college. Hell, he was being recruited as an import before his eligibility was established. Remember how dominant he was in training camp the first year he was here? I remember Jovon Johnson saying he's as tough a matchup one on one as he had ever faced in practice. And then as it turned out, he sucked when the lights came on. And, I think part of it, is just how inconsistently we use our NI skill position players .. we draft guys like Volny and Woodson .. and there's no real plan to use these guys (this is a pet peeve of mine) .. Poblah was a great prospect but perhaps he just never found his niche in the offense because of how he was used .. just tossing it out there for the sake of discussion .. I *DO* hope the guy succeeds .. has the physical tools to make a career of it .. Agree. I think for a while, Mack used to look at things and say "we don't have one of those, get one" when he needed to stop and think about it to realize the reason he didn't have one is because he didn't need one. Or maybe they are just flyers. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ediger Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Pencer cut = One less thing to argue about going forward. With Mack, Pencer, Etienne and Poblah now gone, what are we going to argue about? Poblah was a pretty silly argument to have anyway, everyone and their dog agreed that he was a prospect well worth using a first rounder on and if he was in the draft he likely was the #1 pick. Just happened that the guy couldn't translate all those physical tools into anything of substance. Exactly. Sometimes a pick is bad because you don't do your homework. (Pencer) And then sometimes a pick is bad just because they can't figure it out. (Poblah) Poblah was about as surefire of a choice as there was coming out of college. Hell, he was being recruited as an import before his eligibility was established. Remember how dominant he was in training camp the first year he was here? I remember Jovon Johnson saying he's as tough a matchup one on one as he had ever faced in practice. And then as it turned out, he sucked when the lights came on. And, I think part of it, is just how inconsistently we use our NI skill position players .. we draft guys like Volny and Woodson .. and there's no real plan to use these guys (this is a pet peeve of mine) .. Poblah was a great prospect but perhaps he just never found his niche in the offense because of how he was used .. just tossing it out there for the sake of discussion .. I *DO* hope the guy succeeds .. has the physical tools to make a career of it .. I too hope Poblah makes it. He clearly has the physical ability and he's a downright decent guy on top of it (still runs a high school football camp in town with plans to continue it), so good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 poblah has all the talent in the world, but he seems to have a problem doing the one thing that receivers are supposed to do and that is catch the ball. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 poblah has all the talent in the world, but he seems to have a problem doing the one thing that receivers are supposed to do and that is catch the ball. Same was said of Kamau while he was here but he managed to turn in a few very good season in Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Poblah did good things in B.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Poblah did good things in B.C. Same with Etienne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 The scouting report on Poblah before we drafted him was that he had to focus on 'his hands' more... that being said, I can't think of anyone that was really against the pick - I thought we overpaid, especially when Edm got Laurent for a second - but, at that time, I probably would have ended up offering a 1st for him too... we were desperate for receivers. Honestly, I would like to have Poblah on the roster, I thought he did well on STs and was a serviceable backup with flashes. I've said it before... if it was Taman and not Walters, that traded a former 1st round pick for a 35 year old import DB, this forum would have lit up. I guarantee that Banks would have just been cut eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBieber Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Haaaaaaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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