Elks at Bombers GDT

[Bomberguy]

Lawler and Ford 0 fer so far. 

[wbbfan]

17 minutes ago, Slimy Sculpin said:

So you're saying into the south wind that is happening now and has been from the south all evening. 

I think youve got your endzones mixed up.

Correlation isn’t causation either. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

5 minutes ago, Deiter Fan said:

Surprised it wasn't called...even more surprised it wasn't challenged

I feel like in any sport where there's a version of a "Command Centre" that can intervene challenges are basically useless now.  More likely to further penalize yourself by killing a timeout.  Need something that's such a simple call and so obvious for an overturn.

[M.O.A.B.]

We won. That's what only matters. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

Correlation isn’t causation either. 

Oh man.  I'd like to see you apply this for a week.

[Mike]

Spicy post game JBR is my fav JBR

[Brandon]

What a dog fight of a game.  Edmonton came to play and played very hard on both lines.   You can tell the guys are trying hard for Killam and I hope they give him a chance even if they start out 0 - 6 again.    Lots of hard tackling and I think mid game it woke up the Bombers and they started to match the intensity.   Even with the terrible 3rd quarter it was an entertaining game. 

Zach looked better,  had good protection and made an equal amount of good throws to his bad throws.  The old arm I think is failing him and he's still under throwing some deep balls,  I hope this is just rust.  

Tre Ford wasn't nearly as bad as people make him out to be.  Had that receiver caught that easy TD it may have changed the outcome of the game.   The Bombers did a great job of containing him and mentally I think Ford is weak.  In the 3rd and 4th quarter several times he pouted to the refs looking for phantom calls and those 2 deep balls with 4 minutes left were bad decisions.  He should be lucky that the refs didn't call the several blatant holds that gave him time in the first half.   The last drive he floated some weird throws that were questionable.   Still a question mark on the guy but he wasn't nearly as bad as people make him out to be.  

My 2nd game of watching Jake Thomas.... In the 2nd quarter he had one good rush where he was being held and should of been a call.   Other then that... he is a pylon who still gets pushed around.  Completely useless.   Lawson wasn't that great in the first half but he was the guy that rushed Ford on the Bonds "interception" that was called off.  

Clercius had a good come back game after a rough outing last week,  I hope he gets more involved.   Sterns also isn't as bad as people make him out to be,  I'm ok with him playing.   

Vaval with a brutal fumble which could of completely turned the game on us had Kramdi not made that huge play.   We had full momentum and his botch killed it completely.  Glad it didn't factor in the end. 

 

[Nolby]

Shove this win up your ass, Jamie Nye

[Deiter Fan]

1 hour ago, the watcher said:

No way the video shows enough to change the call

Exactly. There was no clear/incontrovertible evidence on replay that ball touched the ground. None.

[JuranBoldenRules]

5 minutes ago, Brandon said:

What a dog fight of a game.  Edmonton came to play and played very hard on both lines.   You can tell the guys are trying hard for Killam and I hope they give him a chance even if they start out 0 - 6 again.  

 

Kilam takes the wind in the 2nd quarter and it's a much tighter game.  Gave it to us in both long quarters when he chose the ball.  Probably cost his team 6 points at least.

[Deiter Fan]

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

It's the right call...but someone paid to referee football games should be able to make that call in 30 seconds.

Granted it may have been the right call but there was nothing on replay that supported it. Every angle was either motion blurred, too far away or blocked.

[wbbfan]

Forget the hot air blowing all day about phantom wind (real or not, impactful or not.)

The coaching decision of the day to talk about is not challenging the dpi. 3 point swing with possession, and that was the worst dpi in ages.
That call was so offensively soft and wrong it deserved to be challenged no matter yardage or points. That was disgusting. 

[HardCoreBlue]

Just now, JuranBoldenRules said:

Kilam takes the wind in the 2nd quarter and it's a much tighter game.  Gave it to us in both long quarters when he chose the ball.  Probably cost his team 6 points at least.

And when wind is a factor (and even when its not), another reason why establishing a run game is so vital.

[JuranBoldenRules]

3 minutes ago, Deiter Fan said:

Granted it may have been the right call but there was nothing on replay that supported it. Every angle was either motion blurred, too far away or blocked.

It was pretty obvious from every view but there was a camera right at field level that showed it 100%.  It bounces off the turf and back into his numbers without him having control of it.

[wbbfan]

4 minutes ago, Deiter Fan said:

Exactly. There was no clear/incontrovertible evidence on replay that ball touched the ground. None.

Honestly I’m still torn on that one. His second arm placement, he tucks it and rolls, it was a mess even with a ton of angles all day to review and nearly frame by frame slow mo. 
 
I can’t stand that inconsistency though. If that’s how you review, do it every time. You can’t work that hard to over turn a call once in a while. They get way to many calls wrong and miss to many to be taking that much time to make one random call right. But if you’re gonna do that, you gotta do em all like that. 

4 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

And when wind is a factor (and even when its not), another reason why establishing a run game is so vital.

Them giving up on the run when the game was close was soo stupid. They could’ve gone ground n pound on us. 
 In general mak used a lot of bomber ball stuff tonight. Jet motion, izr, the motion screen etc. but he got away from what had them in a position to win the game. 
 

Much better team than I expected them to be though. And they aren’t a free spot on the bingo card any more. They get more confident and start expecting to compete each game and it’ll yield results. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

Edmonton's best runs were mostly draws.  Under 4 ypc on 1st downs.

Still trying to make Ford a real QB.  Won't implement RPO system that would give him a chance to be lethal.

[Deiter Fan]

27 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

I feel like in any sport where there's a version of a "Command Centre" that can intervene challenges are basically useless now.  More likely to further penalize yourself by killing a timeout.  Need something that's such a simple call and so obvious for an overturn.

You may be right but It would have been nice to get half as many angles on it as they gave the Bonds non-interception instead of one from outside the stadium.

[wbbfan]

How bout this to, shanky legs averaged 43.8 per punt but with no hang time at all and leake gobbled up an easy 13.6 per return. 30.2 net which set up a ton of drives from mid field. Grace net was 39.  Poor Sheahan must’ve been punting into that wind all night 🤧

[Deiter Fan]

22 minutes ago, Brandon said:

In the 3rd and 4th quarter several times he pouted to the refs looking for phantom calls

I literally said out loud to myself..."does that guy come up whining to the refs after every sack?"

13 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

It was pretty obvious from every view but there was a camera right at field level that showed it 100%.  It bounces off the turf and back into his numbers without him having control of it.

We're talking about the Bomber's game, right?

[ShyGuy]

They showed a replay in the stadium where the camera must have been lying on the turf that showed it pretty clearly being trapped.

Even after that lengthy delay after they showed that replay I don't even think the crowd was that into the booing

[Dr Zaius]

@lyin' guy read the other thread 

I know you've seen this but are ghosting it 

[BubGrant]

6 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Keys to the game 

ol. Pass pro especially, but also opening gaps for the run game. 
 

Zach get sharp, and quick. He had some pretty brutal throws last week. We need him to play up to expectations not down to a bad team. 
 

Wr core step up. Keric has stepped up but as of yet no one else has and we need a lot more to elevate their level of play. 
 

players to watch, the front 6, vaval, Wallace, both RBs, vaval, ayers. 

6 hours after this post and voila! 

[SpeedFlex27]

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Honestly I’m still torn on that one. His second arm placement, he tucks it and rolls, it was a mess even with a ton of angles all day to review and nearly frame by frame slow mo. 
 
I can’t stand that inconsistency though. If that’s how you review, do it every time. You can’t work that hard to over turn a call once in a while. They get way to many calls wrong and miss to many to be taking that much time to make one random call right. But if you’re gonna do that, you gotta do em all like that. 

Them giving up on the run when the game was close was soo stupid. They could’ve gone ground n pound on us. 
 In general mak used a lot of bomber ball stuff tonight. Jet motion, izr, the motion screen etc. but he got away from what had them in a position to win the game. 
 

Much better team than I expected them to be though. And they aren’t a free spot on the bingo card any more. They get more confident and start expecting to compete each game and it’ll yield results. 

They'll fight hard losing close games Like tonight trying to make Ford an actual qb until they can't anymore. By then, it'll be too late & the Elks season will be lost. When that happens, the Elks will fall apart & another year will be wasted by a coaching staff trying to do domething that won't happen. Turning Ford into a pocket passer. 

Edited 48 minutes ago by SpeedFlex27

[Deiter Fan]

2 hours ago, ShyGuy said:

They showed a replay in the stadium where the camera must have been lying on the turf that showed it pretty clearly being trapped.

Even after that lengthy delay after they showed that replay I don't even think the crowd was that into the booing

Just rewatching the game and yeah the last replay they showed was the one from ground level...and while it was the best view, imo, it simply doesn't meet the definition of "conclusive". You don't actually see the ball touch the ground/any pebble fly. Obviously my opinion is worth squat.

Edited 14 minutes ago by Deiter Fan