Jesse Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 14 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Sure he will accommodate. Question is how much does that accommodation hurt his production and over all effectiveness. Severely. I'm talking about Montreal's desire for him - not the best place for his individual production. He's going to do his own personal cost/benefit of individual production/salary/living expenses/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 5 minutes ago, Jesse said: Severely. I'm talking about Montreal's desire for him - not the best place for his individual production. He's going to do his own personal cost/benefit of individual production/salary/living expenses/etc. I hear ya, but certainly Montreal is keenly aware of who Dalton Schoen is and what his main strength is and are keenly aware of what Cody Fajardo's flaw fatale is. Knowing that do you go out and pay Schoen 250-300k when you know he isn't really a great fit with your QB? 16 minutes ago, BaconNBigBlue said: Ottawa is going all out for 2024. If by all out you mean making totally necessary changes to their roster...then yup...they sure are. BaconNBigBlue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Just now, GCn20 said: I hear ya, but certainly Montreal is keenly aware of who Dalton Schoen is and what his main strength is and are keenly aware of what Cody Fajardo's flaw fatale is. Knowing that do you go out and pay Schoen 250-300k when you know he isn't really a great fit with your QB? IMO, he's a great fit. We disagree on that point. Hopefully, its a moot point and he's about to re-sign with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 15 minutes ago, Jesse said: IMO, he's a great fit. We disagree on that point. Hopefully, its a moot point and he's about to re-sign with us. Not saying Schoen wouldn't be productive with Fajardo. He is probably still a 1000 yard guy with him. Just saying that he likely doesn't earn the 250-300k he will be paid through no fault of his own whatsoever. He will run the best routes and beat DBs but Faj will over/under throw him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 16 minutes ago, Jesse said: IMO, he's a great fit. We disagree on that point. Hopefully, its a moot point and he's about to re-sign with us. The Als also pay Natl. receiver Kaion Julien-Grant around $170k, so they might not be interested in pursuing Schoen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, wbbfan said: I’m not surprised tbh. Gambling on and shaving points in your own games will get you black listed. of course Bruce IV was a Chris Jones signing. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Just now, Fatty Liver said: The Als also pay Natl. receiver Kaion Julien-Grant around $170k, so they might not be interested in pursuing Schoen. And we pay Kenny, and Demski, and still want to sign Schoen. Teams can afford multiple high end receiving contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GCn20 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 7 minutes ago, Noeller said: Still more than he is worth, but getting closer to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 48 minutes ago, Jesse said: And we pay Kenny, and Demski, and still want to sign Schoen. Teams can afford multiple high end receiving contracts. Certainly at the going rate for top end receivers, but Lawler and Lewis salaries are anomalies that a lot of GM's are not going to accept willingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 14 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Certainly at the going rate for top end receivers, but Lawler and Lewis salaries are anomalies that a lot of GM's are not going to accept willingly. I agree. There is a ton of risk to contracts that big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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17to85 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Member when wieneke was a steal for the riders? Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOBomberFan Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 From most outsanding rookie runner-up to the SSK scrap heap... if he plays anywhere in 2024 it will be at bargain bin discount prices Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 That's an interesting development. I'll take Wieneke here, especially if we can't re-sign Schoen. 17to85, Noeller, wbbfan and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, MOBomberFan said: From most outsanding rookie runner-up to the SSK scrap heap... if he plays anywhere in 2024 it will be at bargain bin discount prices Back to Montreal! MOBomberFan and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublezero Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 6 hours ago, GCn20 said: IA guy who can still make the catch on a very poorly thrown ball. That description also fits Schoen to a T. I don't know if this has been discussed much but Schoen took some massive hits last season - dramatic, nasty hits - catching balls that were thrown late, and seemingly off target by Zach Collaros. I say "seemingly" because you never know 100% when the timing is off a little, whether the problem is with the QB or receiver. But it was clear last season that Zach was taking too long to process where to deliver the ball. Contrast that with Dru Brown who was able to get the ball off quicker. So Collaros ended up scampering around and made risky throws. Receivers really have to make a play on many of those types of balls. Would not be surprised if Schoen got fed up with getting hit so hard and often, TBH. Of course it goes with the territory, to a degree. But I could see him going somewhere where the QB gets rid of the ball quicker. JCon, HardCoreBlue and Noeller 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 29 minutes ago, Noeller said: What a fall off this guy had. From TD Jake to.....Jake who? wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 31 minutes ago, JCon said: That's an interesting development. I'll take Wieneke here, especially if we can't re-sign Schoen. Yeah, if he goes somewhere with at least a competent O, he will do well. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Wieneke might need to sign a 1 year prove it wasn't him deal, he will be a good value depth receiver for whoever signs him. wbbfan and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublezero Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 41 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Member when wieneke was a steal for the riders? Exactly. Reminds me of Ellingson TBH. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 51 minutes ago, Noeller said: Let's pick him up and make him a real football player. The stink of Sask can be repaired. 🙂 Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 45 minutes ago, JCon said: That's an interesting development. I'll take Wieneke here, especially if we can't re-sign Schoen. Blah, he was slow in Mtl., slow and confused in Sask. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 No thanks to Wieneke. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 5 hours ago, johnzo said: of course Bruce IV was a Chris Jones signing. No doubt. It’s kind of sad it took the league this long. 2 hours ago, JCon said: That's an interesting development. I'll take Wieneke here, especially if we can't re-sign Schoen. 1 hour ago, Brandon said: Wieneke might need to sign a 1 year prove it wasn't him deal, he will be a good value depth receiver for whoever signs him. If happily take him to camp on a league min deal. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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