Bubba Zanetti Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: And just who else is out there in free agency, pray tell? Masoli and his non-vaxx status or Trevor Harris, and who else? Call me crazy but i honestly think Harris could have a lot of success behind our o-line and backed by our defense. We could reincarnate the 2000 Baltimore Ravens(our defense was arguably better last year), and he could be our Trent Dilfer. Edited January 18, 2022 by Bubba Zanetti rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said: Call me crazy but i honestly think Harris could have a lot of success behind our o-line and backed by our defense. We could reincarnate the 2000 Baltimore Ravens(our defense was arguably better last year), and he could be our Trent Dilfer. Harris is better then a Dilfer, a comp to Dilfer would be a guy like Fajardo. Harris can thrive if he isn't relied upon to carry a team on his back. Clearly Zach would be a far better option but if we had to Harris would work. Tracker, MOBomberFan and rebusrankin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camper_2 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said: Call me crazy but i honestly think Harris could have a lot of success behind our o-line and backed by our defense. We could reincarnate the 2000 Baltimore Ravens(our defense was arguably better last year), and he could be our Trent Dilfer. I could see this as an option, Harris when he's on, the passing yards are there and surrounded with the core Bomber team, that would be scary as well..... I'd exhaust Zack Collaras discussions, before we go Trevor Harris..... Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Harris would be an ok option, just make sure we have a legit kicker on the roster. Noeller, Bigblue204 and Eternal optimist 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal optimist Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 No way would I want Trevor Harris here. Dude crumbles under pressure and is over the hill, not to mention there are rumors he is locker room cancer. Give me a diamond in the rough young QB with upside and lower salary any day. Dr Zaius and Bigblue204 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 If we don't have Collaros, I think Harris could keep us a contender with the infastructure around him that we would have. If you're Collaros, do you want to play behind Ottawa or Toronto's OL for a little extra $? Bubba Zanetti and Tracker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said: No way would I want Trevor Harris here. Dude crumbles under pressure and is over the hill, not to mention there are rumors he is locker room cancer. Give me a diamond in the rough young QB with upside and lower salary any day. Worst case we lose Collaros to Toronto and Masoli ends up in Ottawa. Where is Harris going to go? If he wants to still be a starter it would have to be here and most likely at a discount. You cant win with young QB's unless youre the Stampeders apparently. He still has game based on his sample size with Montreal last season, and he's never played behind an o-line as good as ours. He wouldnt need to be all-world with us, just be serviceable and limit turnovers. And i would imagine him coming into a veteran championship winning tight group with OSH at the helm would effectively smother his ego/locker room issues, if he infact has any. Trust me, i desperate want Collaros back but we could win with Harris. rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Dragoon Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 I don't like Trevor Harris. Never have. That said I would take him over a completely unproven commodity. Hopefully we can get a deal done with Collaros and not even have to consider it. wbbfan and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Football being the ultimate team sport, I would exhaust all options before any consideration given to picking up TH. JCon, Eternal optimist and Bigblue204 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Harris, to me, would only be an in-year option. If Mas*holi got vaxxed, I would have him here. I'm not sure if Streveler survives in Baltimore. I could see him looking for work soon. Davis finally shook loose from Ottawa. Here's Walters' chance to correct his most glaring mistake. bearpants and Eternal optimist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 I wouldn't take Harris or Masoli unless they showed serious changes in character and even then pretty much min contracts. I fully believe you can get qbs who as rookies can produce at a minimum pro level. I'd rather go with a rookie streveler Evans heavy balls etc. But at this point I don't think either young qb we have are replacement level. Rather than spending atleast 150k plus on a guy like that I'd rather the Bombers give our guys raises or maybe poach a decent rotational ni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) I think there's one very important part of the equation to re-up Collaros....It's not mentioned much BUT not every club has the type of head coach the Bombers have....Not all head honchos are like Mike O and I'm sure that fact has passed through Collaro's thought processes...Not only would he be leaving a stud o line but also the best coach in the league....IF he chose to depart...Things to think about on Zacks part....😉 Edited January 18, 2022 by Stickem wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Collaros was the top QB in the league last year so he should be paid the top $. If we don't pay him, other team(s) will. Considering we were a middle of the road team without him and a dominant team with him, we need to sign him at top $ even if that means losing a couple of other players. I don't buy the idea that we can be dominant with Harris or MBT or Masoli. Eternal optimist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) If Collaros went elsewhere I think Plan B would come down to 4 options. T. Harris, Masoli, MBT or Matt Nichols (if fully recuperated) I think any of those 4 options would be able to guide the Bombers to a comfortable playoff spot and look good doing so, as the machine has been pre-tuned to perform, predicting anything beyond a playoff appearance is a wild ass guess. . Edited January 18, 2022 by Fatty Liver Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: If Collaros went elsewhere I think Plan B would come down to 4 options. T. Harris, Masoli, MBT or Matt Nichols (if fully recuperated) I think any of those 4 options would be able to guide the Bombers to a comfortable playoff spot and look good doing so, as the machine has been pre-tuned to perform, predicting anything beyond a playoff appearance is a wild ass guess. . Nichols is broken and MBT is half nuts, hard pass on both. Harris and Masoli are the only real options if Collaros leaves imo. Eternal optimist, wbbfan, Tracker and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: Collaros was the top QB in the league last year so he should be paid the top $. If we don't pay him, other team(s) will. Considering we were a middle of the road team without him and a dominant team with him, we need to sign him at top $ even if that means losing a couple of other players. I don't buy the idea that we can be dominant with Harris or MBT or Masoli. I'd be curious who you'd see us give up to make room for a big Collaros payday. I love Collaros and really think we need him back, but I also don't think he's the most important player in terms of our overall success. At the end of the day, this is just boredom discussions, as I really think they'll reach a mutual agreement and this will all be much ado about nothing, as usual. rebusrankin, blue_gold_84, JCon and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Middle of the road team. 🤣 Will just say anything. blue_gold_84, Noeller and BigBlueFanatic 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: Considering we were a middle of the road team without him and a dominant team with him Lapo problems. Would been dominant without the lapo play not to lose mentality in previous years too. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 The D has given up 14 points a game with Collaros as QB. I love ZC. We need to make sure he is back. But he isn't the only reason we are winning. blue_gold_84, Tracker and Noeller 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Lapo problems. Would been dominant without the lapo play not to lose mentality in previous years too. MOBomberFan, Bubba Zanetti and Eternal optimist 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 any news on Streveler? Only thing I've heard about him lately is that Lapo wants him as the Ottawa QB1. 51 minutes ago, wbbfan said: I fully believe you can get qbs who as rookies can produce at a minimum pro level. I dunno about this ... not a lot of evidence for it. Seems like when a CFL team goes into the season without an established QB, that team generally craps the bed. Good rookie starters come along only about once a decade ... Allen, Flutie, Ray, Evans .. can't think of any others. None of the current crop of CFL QBs made waves as rookies, tho VAJ started and won three games in his first CFL season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, Geebrr said: The D has given up 14 points a game with Collaros as QB. I love ZC. We need to make sure he is back. But he isn't the only reason we are winning. and let's be honest, as much as we all love ZC, it's not like he was putting up "Doug Flutie Circa 1996" numbers.... Geebrr and Tracker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOBomberFan Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 So we can all agree the D plays a huge role, but Collaros can extend plays and evade pressure like no QB we've had in some time. Collaros keeping the O on the field helps the D stay fresh. They are 2 sides of the same elite coin blue_gold_84 and wpgallday1960 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 How do you win in the CFL 1. QB 2. Oline 3. Canadians 4 Pass Rush Zack is 17-2 as the starter. He is not going to put up gaudy numbers in a Bomber system that when they are going only throw the ball 25-30 times a game. Watching him the past couple years he is so good at those throws outside of the pocket, throws where he can't get properly set. Don't want to go back to the QB days before him. wbbfan, Eternal optimist, Noeller and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Noeller said: and let's be honest, as much as we all love ZC, it's not like he was putting up "Doug Flutie Circa 1996" numbers.... His QBR in 2021 was phenomenal at 111.0, even if he didn't put up gaudy passing yards. He was a factor in the success of team but not the only factor, IMO. FWIW, I'd rank the defense first in terms of overall impact to the success of the 2021 season. bustamente, JCon and Noeller 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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