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So can we start talking about firing MOS yet?

Straight forward. This guy is low IQ and prob the worst coach in the league.

 

Discuss.

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    Saying MOS is of low IQ is an absurd thing to say. 

  • O'shea is a good coach hate to lose him. Lapolice can GTFO any time though.

  • It's an issue with the play calling. It's terrible. Lapo is far worse than Hall at this point in the season. Halls defense deserved to win the last 2 game for sure and I'd argue they did enough in Cal

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No thank you.

And lets include Walters as well.

 

Edited by TheSource

No we dont' fire O'Shea....   Hall is canned for sure.   LaPo... not sure yet.  I'd like to see what he does with Streveler starting.   TBD on LaPo.   If he fails with Streveler then Lapo can also go. 

Throwing 5 ints between the two QB's isn't a reflection of LaPo IMO....   

Not if we are just going to replace him with another stiff. 

I don’t think you can bring him back unless we go on an unbeaten streak. We’re regressing 

9 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Throwing 5 ints between the two QB's isn't a reflection of LaPo IMO....   

It's a reflection of how stagnant the offense is.  The opposing D knows where the ball is going and are often waiting for it.  Lapo doesn't trust Nichols clearly, we've seen him dumb down gameplans for QB's before and go super conservative like this.  The RedZone offense is horrendous.  No Harris, no Streveler, no run game, no misdirection.  Sask scored more points off our RedZone possessions than we did.

There was nothing in the gameplan for Streveler.  He was running the same stuff, no read options, nothing to use his mobility and running ability, one rollout play which was a big pass play to Petermann.  Is he going to put together a competent gameplan for Streveler to give him the best chance to succeed? 

On Streveler's first INT there were two receivers in the route, on that side of the field, the play side.  There were 6 Riders.  It was a straight drop back.  That's not setting up a rookie QB for success.  That's not setting up any QB for success.  That's setting up a QB to get sacked, throw it away or turn it over.

Lapo needs to go.

The one thing the bombers have going for them is the ineptitude of the east.

Firing O'shea pretty much throws in the towel on the year and while I don't know if he should be back next year he does get the chance to limp in through the east.

Yeah its ugly but ultimately we are in a playoff spot right now and that has to be taken into account.

The problem is if we win an eastern playoff game. Then it's a real question 

Edited by Dr Zaius

24 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said:

The one thing the bombers have going for them is the ineptitude of the east.

Firing O'shea pretty much throws in the towel on the year and while I don't know if he should be back next year he does get the chance to limp in through the east.

Yeah its ugly but ultimately we are in a playoff spot right now and that has to be taken into account.

The problem is if we win an eastern playoff game. Then it's a real question 

Similar situation as 2011 with LaPo.....team limbs into the GC....when LaPo should have been gunned....he gets an extension and gets fired part  way thru 2012.  

3 minutes ago, DR. CFL said:

Similar situation as 2011 with LaPo.....team limbs into the GC....when LaPo should have been gunned....he gets an extension and gets fired part  way thru 2012.  

Similar in that Lapo is in charge of the offense and it's terrible.  Where's Gary Crowton?  Couldn't hire an OC when Lapo was coach because they knew they'd get overruled and have to run his bullshit.

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2 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Saying MOS is of low IQ is an absurd thing to say. 

Coaching/football iq.

I don't know him personally. 

He sucks as a hc. 

4 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Saying MOS is of low IQ is an absurd thing to say. 

Why? Does MOS strike you as an intelligent person?

I don't know why everyone is complaining about the offense, they were on the field for 34 of the 59 combined points scored by teams tonight ... that's good right, right???

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

No we dont' fire O'Shea....   Hall is canned for sure.   LaPo... not sure yet.  I'd like to see what he does with Streveler starting.   TBD on LaPo.   If he fails with Streveler then Lapo can also go. 

AFter the last few games whey is hall gone and Lapo a maybe? Hall has been way way better this stretch than Lapo has. Lapo has sucked the life out of the offense and both qbs. He's coaching to not lose which is dragging this team down into the depths of hell, just like he did the last two times we fired him. 

1 hour ago, White Out said:

Straight forward. This guy is low IQ and prob the worst coach in the league.

 

Discuss.

If he's low football IQ, what does that say about you? He's forgotten more about football then you'll ever know.

Having said that I'm not sure he should be back here. 

edit nothing useful to say

Edited by Mark F

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

AFter the last few games whey is hall gone and Lapo a maybe? Hall has been way way better this stretch than Lapo has. Lapo has sucked the life out of the offense and both qbs. He's coaching to not lose which is dragging this team down into the depths of hell, just like he did the last two times we fired him. 

Hall's scheme is what sucks... not the players.  We bring in Bighill who is absolutely amazing and we still have issues.    

For LaPo we are getting better results with a raw rookie then the veteran QB.   Running the same plays with the same players.    A noticeable difference between how the offense functions with Streveler in.   That issue is a player issue.  Even yourself you keep saying the receivers are dropping balls.   This isn't an issue with the scheme.  

1 minute ago, J5V said:

Why? Does MOS strike you as an intelligent person?

You're really asking why? He strikes me as a human being who deserves respect and not be insulted for his intellect. You can criticize his coaching but his intelligence? Be better as the US first lady would say. And even if its directed at his football intellect that Whiteout clarified, my educated guess he knows a few things about football but that doesn't guarantee anything in being a successful coach.

2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

AFter the last few games whey is hall gone and Lapo a maybe? Hall has been way way better this stretch than Lapo has. Lapo has sucked the life out of the offense and both qbs. He's coaching to not lose which is dragging this team down into the depths of hell, just like he did the last two times we fired him. 

And in any game we've had reasonable offense the D has been more than adequate.

2 minutes ago, blueingreenland said:

If he's low football IQ, what does that say about you? He's forgotten more about football then you'll ever know.

Having said that I'm not sure he should be back here. 

No question every pro coach knows way more about football than any of us on this board. For real. But, it’s about comparing our coaches to the other CFL coaches. And right now, they’re being out coached by basically every other coach. I can’t stand Chris Jones, but man, he and his staff have them playing well

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

It's an issue with the play calling. It's terrible. Lapo is far worse than Hall at this point in the season. Halls defense deserved to win the last 2 game for sure and I'd argue they did enough in Calgary with any support from the offense. 

And in BC where literally 2 first downs in the fourth quarter on any of 3 drives would have ended the game.  No offense for a whole half.  Happens far too often.

Just now, M.Silverback said:

No question every pro coach knows way more about football than any of us on this board. For real. But, it’s about comparing our coaches to the other CFL coaches. And right now, they’re being out coached by basically every other coach. I can’t stand Chris Jones, but man, he and his staff have them playing well

Really the worst coaching decision made was starting Nichols.  There's a 17 point handicap in each of the last two weeks.  Chris Jones didn't do anything to earn that.

1 minute ago, Mark F said:

Moss was put in a difficult position when they made him head coach, with his limited experience coaching. That was an unusual move in Pro football.  Can't fault him for taking the job. I'm sure he thought he could do the job, and win the Grey cup. But it's a very complicated job, that usually requires apprenticeship that he did not get. It might have worked, but it is increasingly apparent that it will not. Five years in, and not looking promising at all, no matter what some people are saying.

He was a horrible choice and if Walters made it then Walters needs to go too.

You're right. Had MOS done a proper apprenticeship he might have realized that he is not head coach material and instead may have settled for a coordinator or scout type job. By repeatedly enabling him year after year now we can't get his head down to a normal size and he thinks he's smarter than everyone. I wish he had some humility and just fall on his sword if no one is going to relieve him.

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