WPG. Own thread coming soon.

CAL . How much do you tinker if at all? But somethin aint right here

EDM. Lots of room for improvement.  Reilly another year older

SSK. Canadas team has lots of FAs, Carter leaving. Huge question marks at QB

BC. Lots of smoke but less flame than grease fire in MTL. Whole new coaching staff at least

TOR. Turning point to build on or just a nice story like OTT last year?

HAM. Soap opera . Key FAs looming. Collaros. Manziel thing.

OTT.  Trending down

MTL. Grease fire until further notice.

1 hour ago, Atomic said:

Yes it was 100% his fault.  He was the GM, HC, OC, and QB coach.  There is no one else who bears any part of the blame.

yup he wanted to do everything so he owns all the blame for what happened. 

1 hour ago, Atomic said:

Yes it was 100% his fault.  He was the GM, HC, OC, and QB coach.  There is no one else who bears any part of the blame.

 

I put 98% of it on Arjei Franklin.  The season totally turned around once we shipped his spit-disturbing carcass to Calgary.

2 hours ago, Atomic said:

Yes it was 100% his fault.  He was the GM, HC, OC, and QB coach.  There is no one else who bears any part of the blame.

Lol, I thought you were sarcastically defending him, until I remembered he really did have all of those titles.

17 hours ago, TheSource said:

But it wasn't all just Mike's fault. Too much change on a team in too short a time.

Then who else's fault was it...? I can't wait to hear (read) this.

I never felt Bryan Randall was given a chance to succeed here.  Nobody in that offence was given a chance to succeed except for the running backs.  The only possible explanation for the playbook was that someone thought, "it's so crazy it just might work."

7 hours ago, MC said:

I never felt Bryan Randall was given a chance to succeed here.  Nobody in that offence was given a chance to succeed except for the running backs.  The only possible explanation for the playbook was that someone thought, "it's so crazy it just might work."

I went to a Bomber practice in 2008, just after Glenn had been demoted and Dinwiddie had taken over.  I watched Randall run a few plays during a scrimmage and saw him miss open receivers by a huge margin.  I don't think he was that good.

Randall sucked....  Richie Williams could run a perfect play action but aside from that his noodle arm was also not good.    From all our mediocre backups over the last 10 years I think the only ones that may have been something with good health and better coaching was Marve and Elliott.

3 hours ago, Brandon said:

Randall sucked....  Richie Williams could run a perfect play action but aside from that his noodle arm was also not good.    From all our mediocre backups over the last 10 years I think the only ones that may have been something with good health and better coaching was Marve and Elliott.

100%

Marve...... really?  Maybe the most unqualified QB to come through here in the last decade.  Great athlete... no clue how to play quarterback.

9 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Marve...... really?  Maybe the most unqualified QB to come through here in the last decade.  Great athlete... no clue how to play quarterback.

yeah no... that bar is set really, really really low. 

It breaks my heart to see a discussion on which of our QB's was the worst, and then have so many examples to discuss.  Dang...

17 minutes ago, WBBFanWest said:

It breaks my heart to see a discussion on which of our QB's was the worst, and then have so many examples to discuss.  Dang...

And, all relatively recent. 

Fair point considering some of the guys who have come through.... but really...  Marve started like ten games in his whole college career, was more broken than Buck Pierce, and couldn't read a defence to save his life.  He had no business being in professional football.

However

 

Edited May 18, 20187 yr by Atomic

21 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Fair point considering some of the guys who have come through.... but really...  Marve started like ten games in his whole college career, was more broken than Buck Pierce, and couldn't read a defence to save his life.  He had no business being in professional football.

Most unqualified... hmm

You want to rank the Bomber backups best to worst for the last ten years...  illuminate us.

On 2018-05-16 at 6:19 PM, WBBFanWest said:

 

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3 minutes ago, TheSource said:

 

https://www.widenerpride.com/staff.aspx?staff=217

 

 

Don't really care where he is now, just so long as he never comes anywhere near this team again.  My two favorite pictures from the Kelly era: the mug shot and the pic of him hauling his stuff out of the stadium in a bin.  I only wish I could find that pic.

The Souce is actually Mike Kelly. 😉

15 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said:

The Souce is actually Mike Kelly. 😉

I truly hope that isn't the case and that he's just a trollish poster who likes to show up from time to time and stir things up, because if it's true, then he's even a more pathetic figure than I ever could have imagined. 

1 hour ago, Atomic said:

Fair point considering some of the guys who have come through.... but really...  Marve started like ten games in his whole college career, was more broken than Buck Pierce, and couldn't read a defence to save his life.  He had no business being in professional football.

However

 

Right, Marve found a way to win a game in his first and only year in CFL football, despite physical limitations that should have disqualified him from playing football  all together.  Most QB's get 2-3 years to develop as backups before being thrown into a relief situation, Marve only appeared in 3 games total and managed to win this one relying on "play-ground" football skills.  Not saying Marve needs to be lauded but he certainly does not deserve the level of criticism you're throwing his way as one of the worst ever.  Howbout re-aiming your criticism at Bomber scouting and management for signing him up in the first place knowing his injury history? 

Edited May 18, 20187 yr by Throw Long Bannatyne

37 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said:

The Souce is actually Mike Kelly. 😉

I never fully believed this until today...

3 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Right, Marve found a way to win a game in his first and only year in CFL football, despite physical limitations that should have disqualified him from playing football  all together.  Most QB's get 2-3 years to develop as backups before being thrown into a relief situation, Marve only appeared in 3 games total and managed to win this one relying on "play-ground" football skills.  Not saying Marve needs to be lauded but he certainly does not deserve the level of criticism you're throwing his way as one of the worst ever.  Howbout re-aiming your criticism at Bomber scouting and management for signing him up in the first place knowing his injury history? 

The spirit was willing but the flesh not so much...

 

2 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Right, Marve found a way to win a game in his first and only year in CFL football, despite physical limitations that should have disqualified him from playing football  all together.  Most QB's get 2-3 years to develop as backups before being thrown into a relief situation, Marve only appeared in 3 games total and managed to win this one relying on "play-ground" football skills.  Not saying Marve needs to be lauded but he certainly does not deserve the level of criticism you're throwing his way as one of the worst ever.  Howbout re-aiming your criticism at Bomber scouting and management for signing him up in the first place knowing his injury history? 

I think it's implied to be a failure on management's part when a QB with Marve's qualifications and injury history is brought in.

I liked Marve as a person and respected his drive but he simply had no business starting a pro football game.  He squeezed out the win in 2014 (though he is not credited with a W) but when he started a game in 2015 it was painfully obvious... the man had no experience and simply couldn't  read a defence.  Maybe that's a little harsh but it's true.  He had a big arm and good speed but it's all for naught if you can't think the game.

Criticize Marve all you want he still plated better than Brohm, Boltus, Brink, Goltz, Davis, Santos...

sad that our best backup QB is still Kevin Glenn - should have just re-signed him