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After seeing the way Walters tried to sell Daniels in the draft room ("6'6, 260, s**t kicking blocker... mean motherf**ker") and then watching the guy play soft as butter. I don't know that they can evaluate guys before they get here either.

Starting line-ups:

Why can't we blame both? Osh with his ridiculous 9 LB line up; not using the designated American ever; not dressing enough DL like every other CFL, NFL, USports team does. And KW - we're 1 - 4 at home; might go to 4 -5 on the year; no real game breakers on offense, no real studs on D that he has found through US scouting; haven't really found an impact American through scouting for years; no real impact players on PR (maybe Jaworski). Both are failing.

Of course they will. Damn Kyle Walters for taking out vanterpool when he played decent and sticking with an obviously washed up Bryant. How ******* dare he

Depth charts:

yeah...Wish a reporter would ask...Why add Hazen when your teams unit has been solid...Why not add an extra cover DB. Or perhaps another play making WR to help offence...especially if BO cant go, it may be beneficial...and as you said 1000000x they are all starter quality and are here cause they give us a chance to win....so why not give one a chance? Love to here his smartassed retort

I’ve read The Score Takes Care of Itself too, and it was fantastic. I know what he was getting at, he just did such a poor job of conveying it. Dude’s a terrible public speaker. I hope he comes across as less of a horses ass in the room.

Or at least some receivers since our oc doesn't like to run anyway

What a crock of BS. This is your fall back every time you wanna make **** up. Maybe that is how it happened, but all 3 men say it isn't. I guess they are all liars now too. Honestly man....quit making **** up. If you have inside access, as you say, I am pretty sure they would never give it you again if you go around shooting your mouth off about it. Therefore, I call BS. Also, if it happened the way you say not a single other person would know about it other than JT, MOS, and KW. That's how it would be done, no other way because that is professionalism. There is zero chance some guy, even if he was a team mate, would know about this. ZERO CHANCE. Just through the perpetuation of this rumor you are calling all 3 of these guys either unprofessional or liars. I highly doubt that is the case. You can scream from the rooftops that you have "inside sources" but the probability of any inside source knowing directly about this is near zero, the probability of someone knowing directly about this and then sharing the information to someone with loose lips....ZERO. You are just hurting your own cred by doubling down on the accuracy of your careless comment. Trust me, you will not sell this to anyone here. What you are trying to sell is that one of these 3 men were openly discussing this with players in the locker room. NEVER. There is absolutely no way that KW or MOS are discussing anything with anyone of how they arrive at decisions on players. There is absolutely no way JT is telling stories about how his boss was forced into retiring him. I mean c'mon man. If you do, in fact, have a source in the locker room he is giving you cock and bull information. Let's just say for a moment this source of yours actually exists. Did you ever stop to think that maybe he is just stringing you along and using you as a conduit to smear MOS. That seems 100x more probable than anyone actually knowing this first hand.

exactly...and that being the only place Hazen would see the field...why would you yank someone off??...Thats what I mean by it just being a stupid non thought through decision...Hazen must have been in Cub Scouts or something or has a army tattoo...Osh got a chub

Smith starting is good to see. Brady being a GTD is a concern, don't really trust either Petersen or MCI to carry the load.

I see it's Hazen...well done Osh...well done....Not like a receiver...maybe a cover db...the DE we brought back would have been of more use But lets add another LB who will if lucky take some reps on ST's...didnt last time he was rostered but prob was really givener in practice this all week...oh crap...we didnt even practice the full week...needed tues off for some reason....Smart move with QB coming back from 4 weeks inactivity...possibly needing to have a game ready replacement for BO if he cant go...not to mention all the assignemnt errors we still have...why get all the extra reps and schemes down pat.... Who wants to bet we dont come out looking flat and unprepared.....anyone???

I think Younger must enjoy watching his players run on and off the field all game long. Blowing assignments and looking lost the majority of the time. Maybe that's why the defense is so tired.

In a 35-30 league we're going to try to win 20-18. No playmakers at receiver, can't pass protect, intermittent pass rush, 3/5ths of our secondary can't cover but we have 4 American spots purely dedicated to special teams.

No one in a paid U Sports position is coming to the CFL.

We have more backup American linebackers than American skill players on offense.

cause the issues I mentioned have really nothing to do with the GM...Thats all game day prep...and game day stuff Walter's is the GM sure...but he not out scouting in the U.S...should he maybe can some scouts?...possibly...but we also dont know if who is evaluating guys once here is up to par either...and the fact we see them wanting to use guys like Ayers and Woodbey at DE at times...playing garbage like JT...Korn over other guys on roster who are better...Thinking a Cobb.Corcorran combo would give more production than one of Singer or Womack...I could go on...but that tells me enough to realize that identifying talent...or putting players in right positions is not a strong suit.. Fact of matter turfing say just the G.m...Basically will blow up your whole team as no G.M worth snot will accept to come in but be told he's saddled with previous guys selections...he will want his own...Turfing both sets you back even further as you essentially have a total shakeup from admin all the way down...and it will affect player recruitment for at least a good yr...if not 2 More often than not...and especially if the whole organization isnt a dumpster fire...which we are not....you can the HC...likely 1 or 2 coords as the new coach will want his on and go from there...less stress/disruption to the whole team top to bottom and will tell you sooner than later if that was the issue. more a sign of a HC with no clue...whats ailing his roster...or what to do to try and wake his team up

Why do I continue to get frustrated with the game day rosters? I know what’s going to happen, and yet I’m still pissed off. I feel like adding Hazen is Osh trying to make our heads explode.

Yeah Smith should be at Wil and where he has taken majority of his defensive reps at essentially....but glad he has been bumped to a starter...tho not happy as to why Woodbey I agree is the better sam option....but maybe we will see moving around and they are interchangeable....that being said we also need to minimize all the shuffling as its causing a lot of the grief....and that Hazen add for Friffin....just an utter waste of a roster spot

I don’t love smith starting at sam id much rather see him at wil and woodbey at sam but im happy smith is starting in general. Happy schmek is back, helps in short yardage and decent

That would be a great question for OSH, why add Hazen?

Moxey just needed...8 games....to figure it out I guess. Keep bringing him out and eventually he'll get it together?

only adjustment made due to injury (Griffin) and not shocked...Starting 8 Canadians when not required...Wonder what kind of a waste of a pick Osh used for an import to replace Griffin....and if they will see field in any way...St or other...prob not

and really....a lot...not all but a lot of your takes are made up by you...and your opinion and take ....not based on anything concrete. I know you dont like to believe i have some access and insight that no media or general fa will get...but i do and will mention or allude to the stuff i KNOW with 100 percent certainty...If you dont like it, or like to discuss it I'm fine with it...But to unequivocally say my,,,or any posters claim or post for that matter is a blatant lie or made up, to support some narrative or belied that doesnt support yours is just as low...if not lower. I said 100x I will not say actual names/sources out in forum, but will and have in DM's to people I trust or who approach in a normal manner...not attack and accuse one You go and rag on Walter's about not doing his job as you shield Osh from his many many deficiencies, and then when a circumstance is brought up to show he is doing his job...You attack the messenger....even when it yes...was alluded to in media....Thomas himself said he still wanted to play and figured he be back...and anyone with less than half a brain even if they didnt have an insider take on tings knows SmuggyOsh would have had him on roster...but it got taken away hahah...Yeeha...The GM probably had no say in telling his HC this either that we were moving on....So the coach relayed the message...which 9 times outta 10 in a sound environment happens...yup... you Love Osh and will defend him like he one yer kids..We get it I defended Osh too...when it was warranted....but even back then I was saying he was not the sole reason...which sure seems accurate still with what we see now and where the main issues lie

After looking into it, and so that this patently false narrative stops, Jake Thomas wanted to play another year but MOS advised him that he should transition to coaching as there was an availability. Jake took the hint and went into coaching. Walters, nor anyone else, forced JT or MOS into this decision.

They are not in the same situation at all. Despite the doom and gloom around here we aren't a winless club that is out of the playoff race. Completely made up narrative. There have been zero media reports suggesting this. Booch this is a pretty low way of trying to reinforce your point. No it doesn't for everyone. For many though it is a strong indicator. You are responding to a made up narrative that there are absolutely zero reports of this happening. Are we now just going to make up **** around here to smear MOS? This is getting silly.

yeah I would have liked to see him get more of an opportunity...a bigger athletic tweener type who could have played multiple spots...in that role we use Hallett and Kelly he would have likely been way more impactful

Are we finally gonna call it quits on Korn now? Like 4 times cut outta be enough ....no?

We start the week with BC at Calgary, two team under .500 both chasing the Bombers, it would be great if they could both lose but I guess go Lions

Exactly..not having adequate backup already listed is dumb..if he can't go then we could dress vibert and have coverage on oline. And we all know there is a good chance that if he isnt really good to go...but could play but be less than normal we will play him...history had shown that repeatedly

How does that help if Brady goes down in game?

Schmekel is the emergency OL and 7th OL. Plus Daniels. The quantity of blockers isn't an issue. Quality, on the other hand, is.

Thanks, I don't have an agenda. i may gripe a lot here but if I had an agenda it would be for the Bombers to keep winning Grey Cup championships..

Could be a slog fest, raining in Calgary right now.

Again, they started on Sunday. 3 practices and a walk-through. And sure you can run them to the ground as a “punishment”, but there’s nothing wrong with the number of practices this week. There are times when MOS overvalues (in our opinion) rest and we only get a single practice a week - but this isn’t that.

Come on man, as a football player you should know better.....it was because they were tired!

Earlier, you said that I had an agenda. Just what is it other than knowing rehiring Osh & Walters was a mistake? A realization others here are waking up to.

Nope. They started on Sunday. Sunday, Monday, (Tuesday off), Wednesday, Thursday walk-through.

Gimpy Brady O and Chris-Ike is the only backup? Maybe we should have changed out one of the gazillion LB's for a backup RB.

wasn't it 2 practices and a walk through after a week off?

7 starters and 3 other roster players. Turned over a quarter of their roster between games.

k boss...bahhh bahhh be a sheep and believe what u wish....And I not talking about what Osh says...his word especially in media is worthless and pointless, and never said the 3 blind mice were discussing anything with "other" players...you just fabricated that lie...half yhour tripey retort is things you are just assuming...or trying to "sell" You want truth....avoid media sound bites and talk to players...and agents....then you will know the real stories.... And right on cue..Noeller agreeing...hahah...the main the sky is falling whiner and btw...I have nothing to sell...and could care less what a certain percentage thinks here....tho some of the replies and responses are very entertaining and comical...and some sad yhou just kinda confirmed it your self that Osh is an issue if a player is trying to smear osh...well done!! And did I say anything about it being 1 guy...1 player?....nope...again...u making **** up...Not knowing who I work with and have close relationships...trust...and yeah...accepted as a trusted guy in the brotherhood and saying I am a liar and making stuff up kinda puts even more stain on you?...No? So all you babbled is factually accurate??...verifiable....sourced? And believe me...Presidents..G.M's...agents...heads of scouting will say a lot off the record to friends....just saying...players will say even more

To be fair...our ST cover unit is the only thing that has been consistently good this year lol

For a team that's getting nothing but older, and we go and cut a Young Buck.

Just another day at the country club.

Being 0-7 with a team you personally built and then tossing players overboard because you need someone to blame because you kept the wrong QB and coordinators isn't having stones it's a desperate attempt to keep your job. Just saying. I hope MOS is never in that position, but if he ever is I suspect he would act similarly. All DOA coaches do.

I get what he is trying to say. Bill Walsh wrote a whole book called "The Score Takes Care of Itself" (which is phenomenal, btw) based on this concept, which is how he built the dynasty 9ers. Sun Tzu wrote that, "Strategy with out the Tactics is the slowest route to victory, and Tactics with out Strategy is the noise before defeat." This clearly sounds and looks like Tactics without Strategy. Each drive, he is throwing some set of Tactics at the D, without an overarching Strategy. We are basically throwing darts at a wall, hoping to hit the dartboard but aren't even looking to see if that wall has a dartboard. The way it should work is we use Tactics, setting up the run/play action, pump-and-go after screen setup, and route concept development, to accomplish a specific goal. Get the Wil in a 1on1 in the trail position on Demksi around the seam; use the run to develop play action with the screen game, keeping the box honest, then bust a play action or pump screen and go to get Nield good separation vs a half-down field. Using motion to disguise jet plays, reveal coverage, create pre-snap read option opportunities, etc. We have a few tactics, but they don't have a strategy that they are trying to accomplish. Tactics, combined with strategy, create win conditions. Like our empty the backfield on second down to expose and limit the rush. But we aren't actually using Brady as more than a decoy, or even using him as a decoy well. We basically drop the QB back and have him hit whoever he can under coverage and hope they can gain the needed yardage. After Browns' first start, we haven't even used timing routes on one-step drops to at least get the ball to guys before the cushion is eaten up. However, clued in Mos is to the deficiencies of this team, he is still completely blind to the fact that the biggest problems are culture/accountability/preparation/execution. I love the book and enjoy the movie. They really, really did Art Howe dirty in the movie, though. I think they should rewatch each of our losses and lowlights on a loop until we fix what is broken.

Condell's interview is another example of the lack of accountability. I don't remember, it was 11 days ago. Yeah, try doing that at your job.

“I feel like we’re very inconsistently consistent, and we’ve got to be able to finish those things, but in order to do that kind of thing, you’re not just gonna look at the outcome, so to speak. You’ve gotta chop wood and carry water, that kind of thing, and then you have to be able to do those things and not look just at the outcome. You’ve gotta look at the full what goes into the play and not just the stat or the ending of it,” said Condell. “Every play has its own paragraph or own chapter, and the ending of the chapter is just the stat. We’ve gotta be worried about what’s happening within that whole play and not worry about the outcome, so to speak. The outcome will take care of itself, and I’ve got to be able to coach that, and be able to coach that way in order for them to think that way.”

At the end of the season, Jake Maier is going to doing this in Ottawa: