Winnipeg Blue Bombers @ Montreal Alouettes GDT

[bearpants]

13 hours ago, Nolby said:

Montreals offense is obviously banged up, but we beat a no joke defense while missing key receivers. Bombers slowly wore them down with smart play by Zach and Hogan FINALLY let Brady cook. 

This is kind of my take away... Mtl's offense was a shell of it's normal self... and we gave up 13 points... not great against a 4th string QB... but not terrible

Our O vs their D was basically health vs health (minus Dequoy and Schoen)... and then we were down to 3 viable receivers by the second half... we managed to put up 26 points and get the W

To me, this game is a far bigger positive than needing 2 ST TDs to beat a bad Toronto team, at home, a few weeks ago...

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

4 hours ago, Slimy Sculpin said:

The next two games will be interesting. Objectively, the Riders are the best team in the league so it will be challenging for the Bombers.

Go Bombers Go!

Subjectively they are a pile of ass.

 

Ehhh, that is actually objectively too. 

 

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by Wanna-B-Fanboy

[JuranBoldenRules]

6 hours ago, sweep the leg said:

I’m sure this was discussed, but that was a bit of a mess by O’Shea at the end of the first half wasting the timeout. I assume he thought the clock wouldn’t run after an injury. 

Think that was on Hogan.  Could see O'Shea yelling into headset that they needed to be on the ball.

[Noeller]

11 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Think that was on Hogan.  Could see O'Shea yelling into headset that they needed to be on the ball.

I assumed that would be on the players... Interesting....

[Mark H.]

6 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Not like Schoen. He gets mugged like I've never seen a receiver experience before. He'll draw back into the lineup get beat up again & be out again. 

Very few are as good as a healthy Dalton Schoen - most #1s are not of his calibre.

[Stickem]

Much improved BUT still have a long way to go to reach the winning pinnacle the fans are used to.....Still not enough pressure on the oppositon qb....Should have had that green as grass Morgan totally on the ropes early, instead of putting up numbers on us early....Our receiving corps is definitely crippled now, especially after losing Demski....I hope he's back soon ...we'll need him for the Labour Day and Banjo for sure... 

[GCn20]

6 hours ago, Goalie said:

I mean besides lawler what guy did we let go that’s having an impact on another team? Nobody. 
 

but I agree. Receiver shouldn’t be hard to find at all. Definitely a F there for Kyle but really it’s just lawler. Maybe lawler hid the issues with the O a bit but in reality our O was and Is at its best when Brady is featured heavily. Whenever Brady or AH before had big games and big touches we were winning, when we relied on Zach and the passing game? Not so much. Our O runs through Brady. It’s why we all want him to get more touches cuz games like last night will become the norm then cuz they were not very long ago. 

Lawler was a MASSIVE loss. It cannot be stated enough. Our offence looks completely different if he is here right now because he draws doubles all game or teams try match him up and he burns them. He is literally a game changer.

6 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

We should be able to replenish receivers. Wasn't that Keon Hatcher playing for the Als last night? Why couldn't we have picked him up? Dominique Rhymes, Steven Dunbar, & Kurleigh Gittens were all free agents this off season. Yet, here we are having our backup qb Chris Streveler still recovering from his serious knee injury out there running routes. 

Hollins was available a few weeks ago. This offseason there were a ton of good receivers available We either didn`t try for them or whiffed on them all....including our own Kenny Lawler. Our current receiving corps is just some really bad GMing, Gross incompetence almost.

Edited 21 hours ago by GCn20

[JohnnyAbonny]

So worst case, if none of Demski, Shoen  Sterns can play next week we’ve got a WR lineup of Wheatfall, Mitchell, Corcoran, Cobb and Max McLeod of the Colorado School of Mines. 

That’s laughably rough when you think about all the guys we passed on/didn’t have room for since the offseason. 
 

Edited 21 hours ago by JohnnyAbonny

[ShyGuy]

12 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

So worst case, if none of Demski, Shoen  Sterns can play next week we’ve got a WR lineup of Wheatfall, Mitchell, Corcoran, Cobb and Max McLeod of the Colorado School of Mines. 

That’s laughably rough when you think about all the guys we passed on/didn’t have room for since the offseason. 
 

At that point just give Streveler #87 or something and have him in the Rasheed Bailey role in the offense

[johnzo]

4 hours ago, bearpants said:

This is kind of my take away... Mtl's offense was a shell of it's normal self... and we gave up 13 points... not great against a 4th string QB... but not terrible

Morgan outperformed my expectations.  He made some nice throws downfield.  Was expecting a wide side pick six from him tbh, that's a rite of passage for raw CFL QBs.   But he looked a little overwhelmed running tempo at the end of the game.

We got the win and didn't give up many points ... but I was still troubled by the fact that Morgan had such a clean pocket to operate from.

[HardCoreBlue]

4 minutes ago, johnzo said:

Morgan outperformed my expectations.  He made some nice throws downfield.  Was expecting a wide side pick six from him tbh, that's a rite of passage for raw CFL QBs.   But he looked a little overwhelmed running tempo at the end of the game.

We got the win and didn't give up many points ... but I was still troubled by the fact that Morgan had such a clean pocket to operate from.

No push up the middle has become my arch nemesis. :-)

[johnzo]

I ran the numbers a couple of seasons ago and CFL teams then dressed 10-12 different receivers over the course of the season.  I think one team hacd a terrible injury run and dressed 14.

We're just over halfway thru the season and we're at 9 different receivers (Schoen, Demski, Wheatfall, Sterns, Clercius, Concoran, Cobb, Case, Mitchell) so if our luck holds we're going to be starting Mike Miller at boundary slot in game 18.

With the short passing game currently in vogue in the CFL, receivers are going to take a lot of punishment and seems like you've got to have a real deep bench there.

 

[Arnold_Palmer]

4 hours ago, bearpants said:

This is kind of my take away... Mtl's offense was a shell of it's normal self... and we gave up 13 points... not great against a 4th string QB... but not terrible

Our O vs their D was basically health vs health (minus Dequoy and Schoen)... and then we were down to 3 viable receivers by the second half... we managed to put up 26 points and get the W

To me, this game is a far bigger positive than needing 2 ST TDs to beat a bad Toronto team, at home, a few weeks ago...

How is it not great? As of last week games have been averaging 54 points a game per season which is 27 points per game per team. 13 points is pretty good no matter how you slice it. Considering the fact it’s not like this is some 22 green rookie, it’s a guy who’s been around the NFL/USFL league for several years and he played like 90 percent of last weeks game. To have him complete under 50 percent of his passes under 200 yards is a good effort in my opinion. Considering he has that 45 yard bomb early on.

[GCn20]

17 minutes ago, johnzo said:

Morgan outperformed my expectations.  He made some nice throws downfield.  Was expecting a wide side pick six from him tbh, that's a rite of passage for raw CFL QBs.   But he looked a little overwhelmed running tempo at the end of the game.

We got the win and didn't give up many points ... but I was still troubled by the fact that Morgan had such a clean pocket to operate from.

In all honesty through the first half he didn't really have many passing attempts and in the 2nd half they were working the underneath stuff. 

Just now, Arnold_Palmer said:

How is it not great? As of last week games have been averaging 54 points a game per season which is 27 points per game per team. 13 points is pretty good no matter how you slice it. Considering the fact it’s not like this is some 22 green rookie, it’s a guy who’s been around the NFL/USFL league for several years and he played like 90 percent of last weeks game. To have him complete under 50 percent of his passes under 200 yards is a good effort in my opinion. Considering he has that 45 yard bomb early on.

Defence still giving up big plays, otherwise we held them to pretty much bupkus.

[kelownabomberfan]

 

[Booch]

27 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

 

team social media site getting a lil ahead of themselves

[bearpants]

2 hours ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

How is it not great? As of last week games have been averaging 54 points a game per season which is 27 points per game per team. 13 points is pretty good no matter how you slice it. Considering the fact it’s not like this is some 22 green rookie, it’s a guy who’s been around the NFL/USFL league for several years and he played like 90 percent of last weeks game. To have him complete under 50 percent of his passes under 200 yards is a good effort in my opinion. Considering he has that 45 yard bomb early on.

overall, I'm not disappointed... but it's hard to forget some of those long balls... and he seemed too comfortable at times for a raw QB... 2021 Bombers would've shut them out, easy... like I'm confident they wouldn't have passed midfield, lol....

[Tracker]

3 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

No push up the middle has become my arch nemesis. :-)

AKA: the FatBoi factor.

[wbbfan]

5 hours ago, Mark H. said:

Very few are as good as a healthy Dalton Schoen - most #1s are not of his calibre.

he isn’t that calibre either  though. until he comes back and finds that level of sustained play, he’s damaged goods. 

[Mark H.]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

he isn’t that calibre either  though. until he comes back and finds that level of sustained play, he’s damaged goods. 

I did say 'healthy' but thanks

[SpeedFlex27]

15 hours ago, GCn20 said:

Lawler was a MASSIVE loss. It cannot be stated enough. Our offence looks completely different if he is here right now because he draws doubles all game or teams try match him up and he burns them. He is literally a game changer.

Hollins was available a few weeks ago. This offseason there were a ton of good receivers available We either didn`t try for them or whiffed on them all....including our own Kenny Lawler. Our current receiving corps is just some really bad GMing, Gross incompetence almost.

Which is why if we miss the playoffs or fall in the standings it's time for a change after 12 seasons. Walters has gone stale. You make a change in the off season. We still have 8 games to play. 

Edited 6 hours ago by SpeedFlex27

[SpeedFlex27]

14 hours ago, ShyGuy said:

At that point just give Streveler #87 or something and have him in the Rasheed Bailey role in the offense

I've seen this all before. Kyle Walters with the worst case of a GM tearing a team apart since Earl Lunsford crushed the 1972 Western Conference Champion Blue Bombers to punish Mack Herron & Jim Thorpe for simple weed possession charges by releasing them. Both were fined with no criminal records.

A deep threat one thousand yard plus receiver & the league's leading rusher from thje previous year both gone in 1973 with the snap of his fingers. Over 2500 yards of offense vanished. The CFL's leading passer Don Jonas struggled the following season because the receiving core became a bunch of slugs. It took years for the Bomber organization to recover. Fast forward ahead half a century... with the Grey Cup being played here this season, we still don't know the team's motives as to why this off season was the way it was. Did Miller direct Walters to not spend any money on players?

Edited 6 hours ago by SpeedFlex27

[SpeedFlex27]

15 hours ago, Mark H. said:

Very few are as good as a healthy Dalton Schoen - most #1s are not of his calibre.

Heavy on the word, "healthy". 

[M.O.A.B.]

If Demski and/or Sterns will not be available, our best option is to bring back Myron Mitchell. He knows the system.

[wbbfan]

10 hours ago, Mark H. said:

I did say 'healthy' but thanks

Even healthy post injury, can't remotely expect him to be the same guy.