it is time..........
 

 

Edited May 4, 20232 yr by Noeller

13 minutes ago, Bigmike71 said:

Not quite sure what TBURGESS is trying to say here.  Yes Lawler shouldn’t have been drinking and driving, everyone can agree on that but as far as taking care of it October 21st. He had to wait for his court date. For the record it is an immigration issue due to him taking responsibility for a DUI. How is it that one person in particular always thinks they are right and everyone else wrong?

agree...his plea date was April...hence...now that he entered plea has to get the immigration thing worked through...is what it is and no fault of anyone other than slow court system

35 minutes ago, Bigmike71 said:

Not quite sure what TBURGESS is trying to say here. 

1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:

He should have taken care of the DUI before this April. It happened 610 days ago. No DUI = No problem. It isn't an immigration issue, it's a DUI issue. 

Folks want to say it's everyone except Lawler's fault, but that's just making excuses. No it's not his agents fault for not taking care of it for him. No, it's not the Bombers fault for not taking care of it for him. No, it's not the PA's fault for not warning him. All he had to do was google "dui canada border" and he would have found out what to do.

The whole situation is totally Lawler's fault for getting a DUI and not taking care of things way back in October 2021.

No one is saying otherwise, lol.

Of course it's Lawler's fault. The current issue is an immigration issue. A person does not get to decide how long the justice system takes.

A player does hire an agent to know these details. The Bombers should have also looked into this before signing him - because it is a teams responsibility to do their due diligence on incoming players. 

You're just arguing semantics at this point. Literally no one has tried to absolve Lawler of anything.

12 minutes ago, Booch said:

agree...his plea date was April...hence...now that he entered plea has to get the immigration thing worked through...is what it is and no fault of anyone other than slow court system

Who knows, that sounds like an extraordinary delay, his lawyer could have postponed the trial multiple times due to Lawler living in AB, plus COVID.  I don't think it's a coincidence the trial only occurred once he moved back to MB.  When do driving suspensions begin, after the accident or after the conviction?  That may be a possible reason to procrastinate as long as possible.

39 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Who knows, that sounds like an extraordinary delay, his lawyer could have postponed the trial multiple times due to Lawler living in AB, plus COVID.  I don't think it's a coincidence the trial only occurred once he moved back to MB.  When do driving suspensions begin, after the accident or after the conviction?  That may be a possible reason to procrastinate as long as possible.

Suspension is immediate.

12 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Suspension is immediate.

One year from the time of the accident?  That hardly makes sense if he hasn't been convicted yet.

1 hour ago, Fatty Liver said:

One year from the time of the accident?  That hardly makes sense if he hasn't been convicted yet.

He plead guilty though

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Was that an option?

You think a guy can just dictate when his thing is processed through the justice system?

It's still an immigration issue at this point. That it's related to his guilty pleasure doesn't change that fact.

Don't you ever get tired of being a Bomber shill? 

You think it takes more than 19 months to get a hearing for a DUI? 

You think Lawler told the Bombers before they signed him that his DUI was still outstanding & that the Bombers didn't do anything about it?

You think Lawler is the only import to get a DUI in Canada?

I don't think any of those things are true. The DUI is the reason for Lawler's immigration problem & the media should report it that way. No DUI... No Problem.

18 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

Don't you ever get tired of being a Bomber shill? 

You think it takes more than 19 months to get a hearing for a DUI? 

You think Lawler told the Bombers before they signed him that his DUI was still outstanding & that the Bombers didn't do anything about it?

You think Lawler is the only import to get a DUI in Canada?

I don't think any of those things are true. The DUI is the reason for Lawler's immigration problem & the media should report it that way. No DUI... No Problem.

It seems one might be excessively defensive when they vehemently deny something. The famous line, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks," captures this sentiment quite well. Can we please steer the conversation back to discussing football? Is this kind of talk that this forum is actually intended for?

3 hours ago, TBURGESS said:

He should have taken care of the DUI before this April. It happened 610 days ago. No DUI = No problem. It isn't an immigration issue, it's a DUI issue. 

Folks want to say it's everyone except Lawler's fault, but that's just making excuses. No it's not his agents fault for not taking care of it for him. No, it's not the Bombers fault for not taking care of it for him. No, it's not the PA's fault for not warning him. All he had to do was google "dui canada border" and he would have found out what to do.

The whole situation is totally Lawler's fault for getting a DUI and not taking care of things way back in October 2021.

You can't plea anything until you get in front of a judge.  And yes, the delays in Manitoba with prosecutions are that long.

2 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

Who knows, that sounds like an extraordinary delay, his lawyer could have postponed the trial multiple times due to Lawler living in AB, plus COVID.  I don't think it's a coincidence the trial only occurred once he moved back to MB.  When do driving suspensions begin, after the accident or after the conviction?  That may be a possible reason to procrastinate as long as possible.

There's been like 20 criminal cases tossed right out in Manitoba this year because they haven't been heard at all within 2 years.  Prosecutions in Manitoba are a mess right now.  The government is trying to get tough on crime while actively going to war with the prosecutors on wages and working conditions. 

Edited June 6, 20232 yr by JuranBoldenRules

1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:

Don't you ever get tired of being a Bomber shill? 

You think it takes more than 19 months to get a hearing for a DUI? 

You think Lawler told the Bombers before they signed him that his DUI was still outstanding & that the Bombers didn't do anything about it?

You think Lawler is the only import to get a DUI in Canada?

I don't think any of those things are true. The DUI is the reason for Lawler's immigration problem & the media should report it that way. No DUI... No Problem.

Yes, sometimes it takes years for a trial or hearing- dui or other. 

1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:

Don't you ever get tired of being a Bomber shill? 

You think it takes more than 19 months to get a hearing for a DUI? 

You think Lawler told the Bombers before they signed him that his DUI was still outstanding & that the Bombers didn't do anything about it?

You think Lawler is the only import to get a DUI in Canada?

I don't think any of those things are true. The DUI is the reason for Lawler's immigration problem & the media should report it that way. No DUI... No Problem.

No dui no problem, agreed, but unless you got a time machine somewhere..... 

He has an immigration problem at the moment that is why he is suspended. Your bitching about what the media is accurately reporting is the crux of the issue here. See I'm not shilling for the Bombers or Lawler, simply explaining why you are once again wrong with your piping hot takes.

3 hours ago, Jesse said:

No one is saying otherwise, lol.

Of course it's Lawler's fault. The current issue is an immigration issue. A person does not get to decide how long the justice system takes.

A player does hire an agent to know these details. The Bombers should have also looked into this before signing him - because it is a teams responsibility to do their due diligence on incoming players. 

You're just arguing semantics at this point. Literally no one has tried to absolve Lawler of anything.

I have. Damn cops

1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:

Don't you ever get tired of being a Bomber shill? 

You think it takes more than 19 months to get a hearing for a DUI? 

You think Lawler told the Bombers before they signed him that his DUI was still outstanding & that the Bombers didn't do anything about it?

You think Lawler is the only import to get a DUI in Canada?

I don't think any of those things are true. The DUI is the reason for Lawler's immigration problem & the media should report it that way. No DUI... No Problem.

You should write a letter.

1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:

Don't you ever get tired of being a Bomber shill? 

You think it takes more than 19 months to get a hearing for a DUI? 

You think Lawler told the Bombers before they signed him that his DUI was still outstanding & that the Bombers didn't do anything about it?

You think Lawler is the only import to get a DUI in Canada?

I don't think any of those things are true. The DUI is the reason for Lawler's immigration problem & the media should report it that way. No DUI... No Problem.

For real though, I know of at least 1 person who had a dui and accident that resulted in death.....They're still walking the streets and waiting on the court date 14 months in.

Edited June 7, 20232 yr by Bigblue204

1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:

Don't you ever get tired of being a Bomber shill? 

 

Don't you ever get tired of being you? Just askin' on behalf of everyone here. 

Just want to throw in since I know people who work at the courts,  they are MASSIVELY backed up because of COVID so it would not surprise me that everything has taken this long. 

7 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Was that an option?

You think a guy can just dictate when his thing is processed through the justice system?

It's still an immigration issue at this point. That it's related to his guilty pleasure doesn't change that fact.

Is it an immigration issue though?

He isn't immigrating though.  This is more a Canadian Border Services Agency issues. 

 

6 minutes ago, Adrenaline_x said:

Is it an immigration issue though?

He isn't immigrating though.  This is more a Canadian Border Services Agency issues. 

 

getting visas to work in the country is all part of the overall immigration system so yeah I'd call it a cromulent use of the word. 

8 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

getting visas to work in the country is all part of the overall immigration system so yeah I'd call it a cromulent use of the word. 

A perfectly cromulent use of the word

15 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

One year from the time of the accident?  That hardly makes sense if he hasn't been convicted yet.

My brother was caught with impaired a few years back and his suspension was immediate.

10 hours ago, Brandon said:

Just want to throw in since I know people who work at the courts,  they are MASSIVELY backed up because of COVID so it would not surprise me that everything has taken this long. 

My sister in law is a crown attorney and they are so far behind they have begun dismissing cases outright to clear the backload because if they don't people will walk due to the failure to provide justice in a timely manner. A lot of people on summary charges are getting free walks right now if they take the time to plead not guilty. Crowns and courts don't have the time to deal with it. If you get a traffic ticket right now plead not guilty, good chance they will drop the charges.

9 hours ago, Adrenaline_x said:

Is it an immigration issue though?

He isn't immigrating though.  This is more a Canadian Canada Border Services Agency issues. 

Yes, it is. At least in part.

He's a foreign national. He is a subject to IRPA and its regulations - same as any other foreign national who seeks entry into Canada. In Lawler's case, he is authorized entry as a temporary resident with a work permit.

CBSA enforces IRPA at ports of entry across the country.

 

The DUI is the reason, it should be in the headline, not buried in the story. It's like saying someone who murdered someone has a legal issue. 

Pretty much anyone who even half follows football knows this is a work visa issue, stemming from a DUI...so really its moot....it's basically now an immigration/work visa issue...The DUI portion is done...over with....moot

 

He will be back in 3 weeks- it really doesn’t matter and wouldn’t have changed anything. 

31 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

The DUI is the reason, it should be in the headline, not buried in the story. It's like saying someone who murdered someone has a legal issue. 

It was at the time. It has since evolved. While it is the reason for the story, it is no longer the story.

If someone is released from prison after serving their time and  is having trouble getting over the border it is an immigration issue. 

Edited June 7, 20232 yr by Geebrr