Eternal optimist Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 They should really change that rule. It kinda punishes kickers for managing to have the ball settle in the field of play near the sideline, which sometimes is what you want. K-Shack, Rod Black, BomberBall and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: They do know the rules. On a kickoff the receiving player can step out of bounds, stay out of bounds, and files the ball in bounds and it is considered an illegal kickoff. Illegal participation is where a player goes out of bounds without being forced out and re-enters the files of play to play the ball. Here the BC player deliberately stepped out of bounds and fielded the ball, which makes the ball out of bounds. If that’s the rule,fine. Seems weird tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 I hope BC feels really good about that win... because the bombers treating it like a preseason game gave them all they could handle and with some better kicking likely win the game. BC gonna get it handed to them in Winnipeg no matter who the bombers choose to play. 2 minutes ago, Rod Black said: If that’s the rule,fine. Seems weird tho. If that's the rule it's a god damned stupid ******* rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBlink Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: They do know the rules. On a kickoff the receiving player can step out of bounds, stay out of bounds, and field the ball in bounds and it is considered an illegal kickoff. Illegal participation is where a player goes out of bounds without being forced out and re-enters the field of play to play the ball. Here the BC player deliberately stepped out of bounds and fielded the ball, which makes the ball out of bounds. By your definition it's also illegal participation 🤔 That rule is beyond dumb anywaya 8 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: They do know the rules. On a kickoff the receiving player can step out of bounds, stay out of bounds, and field the ball in bounds and it is considered an illegal kickoff. Illegal participation is where a player goes out of bounds without being forced out and re-enters the field of play to play the ball. Here the BC player deliberately stepped out of bounds and fielded the ball, which makes the ball out of bounds. By your definition it's also illegal participation 🤔 That rule is beyond dumb anyways 8 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: They do know the rules. On a kickoff the receiving player can step out of bounds, stay out of bounds, and field the ball in bounds and it is considered an illegal kickoff. Illegal participation is where a player goes out of bounds without being forced out and re-enters the field of play to play the ball. Here the BC player deliberately stepped out of bounds and fielded the ball, which makes the ball out of bounds. By your definition it's also illegal participation 🤔 That rule is beyond dumb anyways Edit: well that's weird and I'm on my phone and can't figure out how to fix this easily. Edited October 16, 2022 by BBlink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, 17to85 said: I hope BC feels really good about that win... because the bombers treating it like a preseason game gave them all they could handle and with some better kicking likely win the game. BC gonna get it handed to them in Winnipeg no matter who the bombers choose to play. If that's the rule it's a god damned stupid ******* rule. Imagine Zach, Kyrie, Ellingson, the o-line, Jeffcoat... all coming back in cold weather against BC? Not going to be pleasant day for the Lions. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: They do know the rules. On a kickoff the receiving player can step out of bounds, stay out of bounds, and field the ball in bounds and it is considered an illegal kickoff. Illegal participation is where a player goes out of bounds without being forced out and re-enters the field of play to play the ball. Here the BC player deliberately stepped out of bounds and fielded the ball, which makes the ball out of bounds. Tricky interpretation. If he's standing on the sideline and field the ball in the air, or on a bounce, sure. He's got one foot in, one out and picks the ball off the turf in bounds. IMO that's illegal participation. Here's the relevant section bolded to emphasize the particular situation: It is illegal for a player of either team to go out of bounds, without contact with an opponent, and to reach back into or re-enter the field of play to touch or recover a loose ball. Edited October 16, 2022 by JuranBoldenRules Sard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 It's pretty lame a guy can voluntarily step out of bounds but the ball isn't and that's a penalty on the kicker That's illegal participation Sard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Brandon said: Imagine Zach, Kyrie, Ellingson, the o-line, Jeffcoat... all coming back in cold weather against BC? Not going to be pleasant day for the Lions. No imagination required. We Kill them. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 I hope if Rourke plays and is carted off the field that the lions and their medical staff along with tsn who was pushing the narrative all night are held responsible. This is like the Tua stuff from nfl but our media seems to want to rush back the injured player CodyT, Noeller and Sard 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 I still think this is BC trying to sell hope and or trying to play mind games with their potential playoff opponents. VAJ or Rourke it doesn't matter. We can handle those ***** cats. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said: They should really change that rule. It kinda punishes kickers for managing to have the ball settle in the field of play near the sideline, which sometimes is what you want. It is weird. I get the illegal kick off if the receiving player catches the ball out of bounds, but the pigskin laying on the field, hard to understand. It’s possible the ref was convinced by the BC player. It better get sorted our for every game from here if the ref was wrong. Edited October 16, 2022 by Rod Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just now, 17to85 said: I still think this is BC trying to sell hope and or trying to play mind games with their potential playoff opponents. VAJ or Rourke it doesn't matter. We can handle those ***** cats. I honestly can't believe Rourke's agent would let him play in a competitive game 10 weeks after an injury with a 6 month timeline given his obvious shot at the NFL this off-season when he's at full health. That right there is negligent. Noeller, Rod Black and rebusrankin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, Goalie said: I hope if Rourke plays and is carted off the field that the lions and their medical staff along with tsn who was pushing the narrative all night are held responsible. This is like the Tua stuff from nfl but our media seems to want to rush back the injured player The announcers need something to generate excitement. Faint hope for Rourkes early return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just now, Rod Black said: It is weird. I get the illegal kick off if the receiving player catches the ball out of bounds, but laying on the field, hard to understand. It’s possible the ref was convinced by the BC player. It better get sorted our for every game from here if the ref was wrong. Yeah if he fields it standing out of bounds, even if it's bounced up in the air over the field of play I agree it's an illegal kickoff. But fielding it on the turf, one foot in, one foot out is illegal participation..."reaching back into the field of play" Rod Black 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShyGuy Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 minute ago, JuranBoldenRules said: I honestly can't believe Rourke's agent would let him play in a competitive game 10 weeks after an injury with a 6 month timeline given his obvious shot at the NFL this off-season when he's at full health. That right there is negligent. The only thing I've been thinking is that they've been in contact with people in the NFL and they want to see something specific on tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 37 minutes ago, do or die said: Some night for Leggs.... Yea not his finest moment tonight but two long fg in bc stadium where the air is dead I won’t fault him too much on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just now, KshyGuy said: The only thing I've been thinking is that they've been in contact with people in the NFL and they want to see something specific on tape. He's got more than enough on film. Rod Black 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 minute ago, KshyGuy said: The only thing I've been thinking is that they've been in contact with people in the NFL and they want to see something specific on tape. Agreed. There’s not enough tape on Rourke, lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 Brown threw 5 TD passes, and yet we still lost..... 17to85, bearpants, Rod Black and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, Brandon said: Imagine Zach, Kyrie, Ellingson, the o-line, Jeffcoat... all coming back in cold weather against BC? Not going to be pleasant day for the Lions. You forgot Nichols 17to85 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 Imagine Rourke spends another season in the CFL at $65,000 plus incentives because he tweaks his foot and needs another surgery on it. Then in that next CFL season comes down to earth. The NFL is out the window at that point. It's all about timing, and his time to make that NFL jump is RFN. Mr. Perfect, rebusrankin and Rod Black 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, do or die said: Brown threw 5 TD passes, and yet we still lost..... I count five after a third try, and a two pointer. Lol Edited October 16, 2022 by Rod Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) Rourke don't draw ratings so I don't get why tsn is pushing it so hard. It's gotta be media driven cuz they wanna give him the mop for some reason Edited October 16, 2022 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 29 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Tricky interpretation. If he's standing on the sideline and field the ball in the air, or on a bounce, sure. He's got one foot in, one out and picks the ball off the turf in bounds. IMO that's illegal participation. Here's the relevant section bolded to emphasize the particular situation: It is illegal for a player of either team to go out of bounds, without contact with an opponent, and to reach back into or re-enter the field of play to touch or recover a loose ball. I don’t disagree with you that this seems inconsistent, especially when his deliberate intent seems clear here. I am looking into a possible explanation as to why the rule is the way it is, hopefully my source can give me a coherent answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 Nothing to hang our heads about tonight. BC acting like they won the Grey Cup says all you need to know about their team and ours considering we were playing with what was essentially a B team. All that said... - For a first start I was very impressed with Dru Brown. He certainly played better than Adams and you could say he looked better than Cornelius or anything that Ottawa has trotted out all year. - Grant, as previously stated is just fine. - Our special teams kick and punt coverage is not. - Not going to harp on Legs too much. I wonder if he was maybe getting under the ball a bit too much on those kicks considering the kick he made in Saskatchewan, and I highly doubt our coaching staff would trot him out if they felt those kicks were outside his range. - Desmond Lawrence may not want to unpack the rest of his belongings since he arrived in town. Time for another apple and a road map. - BA looked awesome! Re-establishing that physical presence over the middle. - Really happy for Rasheed Bailey. He's mostly been an after thought behind Demski, Schoen and Ellingson. A great leader and foot soldier who got rewarded tonight for all he does. - Don't love not trying the onside kick, but nothing I'll lose sleep over in a meaningless game. - Stamps or Lions, don't care. Bombers by 30 in the west final. MOBomberFan, Tracker and Noeller 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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