So, looking ahead....what's our off season going to look like? Coaches and GM all still under contract, right? Players? Who's going to the NFL? Who do we think might bolt in FA? Pieces that we'd like to see the WBB pick up in FA? 

Edited January 10, 20224 yr by Noeller

I'm all for giving Collaros fair market value but he also has to realize that he played behind one of the best o lines this league has ever seen and a great supporting cast

Edited January 13, 20224 yr by bustamente

5 minutes ago, greenrider55 said:

I don’t think he’d have near the success he had in Winnipeg elsewhere. He’s protected well, comfortable in the O… just my take 

Possibly but Hamilton was one rouge away from winning it all last season. One would think Zach could very well get them over the hump.

I want Zach back, at a fair market price, that doesn't hurt us overall. To sum up, glad I am not Walters.

43 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

Possibly but Hamilton was one rouge away from winning it all last season. One would think Zach could very well get them over the hump.

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54 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

Can you imagine a scenario where we let Zach walk over $$$, Hamilton signs him, and then he beats us in the Grey Cup?? I wouldnt want to live in that world.

He'll sign. Just relax. Wow. 

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1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

I'm going to play devil's advocate, you're Walters, Collaros asks for $550,000. This is over what you feel you can pay. You know you could sign Dane Evans for $400,000, do you suck it up with Zach or take Dane and use the extra $150,000 elsewhere?

Buck with Dane could be a big developmental jump for Evans,if Zach doesn't budget at 550 then I'm calling Dane immediately

6 minutes ago, Nolby said:

Buck with Dane could be a big developmental jump for Evans,if Zach doesn't budget at 550 then I'm calling Dane immediately

Sincere  question (I'm a MASSIVE Buck fan going back to BC): Is Buck a better a OC than Tommy Condell? In terms of developing Dane? I'm not sure about that statement... 

In a wild scenario where Dane Evans is the Bombers’ qb, he’ll be behind the best OL in the league, he won’t be subjected to the wpg Jeffensive line, and he’ll be on team FIFO, not withering in the big game with a bunch of all-talk me-first quitters.  So there’s that.  Or, Collaros stays.

 

"...I’m pissed that Winnipeg was able to keep their front office together. They would have had a tougher time retaining players if (assistant general managers) Ted (Goveia) and Danny (McManus) had been hired elsewhere. I hope (Canadian offensive lineman) Drew Desjarlais signs in the NFL. That’ll hurt them..."

When Collaros was with other teams, he took an ungodly pounding which nearly ended his career. With the Bombers, he rarely got his jersey soiled. He and his wife have to consider whether he wants to spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair or being unable to life his head without hurting. He ought to talk to Matty Dunigan about that.

 

Zack is...and knows he's a successful product of the environment he was in here, and has been kept clean, and safe, and is in the right "team" first environment...and I don't see him holding us over a barrel, and do the opposite of what guys like Willie..Biggie did in a team first move to help keep pieces in place to get to the end prize...If he made 41ok last year, and we come at him with a 475/485k salary, thats fair, and will be in line with other top end starters, save for Fajardo and everyone and their dog in and around the league see that as a sick joke...I see us getting him for 500k tops...likely just under

That being said, I also see Bryant back at what he was last year, and Harris will come in at less too...all easily managed for this coming year, and If Adams is back, He probably coming in at the same as last yr too at the most...likely a slight shave as he isn't defacto #1 anymore, so won't command that.

As many as we have to retain, a lot were already at top end of the pay scale and won't be requiring big bumps, and some who may be back are on the downside now of career, and are not focal points, so will be at a discount.

Guys who are due a significant bump are Kenny, Stove, Desjarlais (if he doesnt sign) Kongbo (whom may be back sooner than later as he is a futures deal) and lesser extent Darby and Rose...I don't include Bryant cause he will be the same hit basically, and he always waits till we re-up key guys first as he is all about team, then sees what kind of lil extra kick he can get once Biggie and BA are wrapped up.

 

4 minutes ago, Jpan85 said:

 

Price ?

1 minute ago, CodyT said:

Price ?

We just have the official release so far. No insiders have reported anything yet.

Must be pretty good for him to sign so early though.

Just now, Jesse said:

We just have the official release so far. No insiders have reported anything yet.

Must be pretty good for him to sign so early though.

Masoli to Ottawa or Toronto 

9 minutes ago, CodyT said:

Masoli to Ottawa or Toronto 

It has to be Ottawa,they've literally got no one to work with, Toronto at least still has MBT

Also,if Evans signed for anywhere around 415 to 430 after having Zach hand it to Hamilton back to back then Zach is really in the driver's seat.

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19 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

"...I’m pissed that Winnipeg was able to keep their front office together. They would have had a tougher time retaining players if (assistant general managers) Ted (Goveia) and Danny (McManus) had been hired elsewhere. I hope (Canadian offensive lineman) Drew Desjarlais signs in the NFL. That’ll hurt them..."

 

Just now, Jpan85 said:

 

That’s what a QB should be making.

Love that deal.

So if Evans is high 300k, low 400k and BLM is 425k, I think @Boochis right and 475-485k seems about right for Zach.

20 minutes ago, Nolby said:

It has to be Ottawa,they've literally got no one to work with, Toronto at least still has MBT

Also,if Evans signed for anywhere around 415 to 430 after having Zach hand it to Hamilton back to back then Zach is really in the driver's seat.

High 3s to low 4s

19 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Honestly. Is that Jeremy O'Day being quoted? 

20 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

So if Evans is high 300k, low 400k and BLM is 425k, I think @Boochis right and 475-485k seems about right for Zach.

Anything under 500 will be a win for us

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54 minutes ago, Jpan85 said:

 

Is anyone gonna pay Masoli? What good is a qb who can't travel?

3 hours ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

Possibly but Hamilton was one rouge away from winning it all last season. One would think Zach could very well get them over the hump.

In front of their own fans playing for their lives in the Grey Cup. Their effort doesn't happen like that all season.

1 hour ago, Nolby said:

It has to be Ottawa,they've literally got no one to work with, Toronto at least still has MBT

Also,if Evans signed for anywhere around 415 to 430 after having Zach hand it to Hamilton back to back then Zach is really in the driver's seat.

If I'm Masoli im avoiding Ottawa like the plague 

And yes in a sense that gives Zach some leverage but Hamilton would have been a premiere destination for Zach. No way he signs in Ottawa. That leaves really us and Toronto 

Edited January 13, 20224 yr by CodyT

ZC has it good here. A chance to three peat, a chance to win another MOP award but most importantly a chance to continue to stay protected. This is the only time in his career he’s had an elite o-line keep him healthy. I don’t see a scenario of him leaving. Like Jefferson and Jeffcoat he will sign a little under market value but he’ll still get a nice pay day he realizes the importance this stage of his career of continuity, staying healthy for a life after football, and to continue to add rings and awards to his legacy.