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Matt Nichols Discredited Too Much? Passing Yards Are Meaningless

It might be just a select few posters I'm seeing do this, but man some of these criticisms just get so old.  Sure it's all warranted and good to rip the guy when he throws bad passes or makes a bad decision, but now it's rip him even when he completes a deep ball to Matthews that was called back, or the one to Whitehead that stood?  I mean, what is this?  Some Nichols witch hunt where he can do no right or something?

I'm not going to pretend that Nichols was all good, but on series's where our offense was off he wasn't the only one who made the errors.  Andrew Harris was not good either outside his TD catch and had as much to do with the struggles, as did Fenner on defense, Adams and some of Lapo's play calls that 17to85 talks about.

Nichols isn't above criticism and he doesn't necessarily deserve heaps of praise on his head.  But it's absolutely ridiculous to assume that he single-handedly wins or loses games.  That's not how Mike O'Shea's team works.

And his passing yards are meaningless.  You can rack up yards all day against bend but don't break defenses, but if you don't get TDs out of them, you are overrated.  Yup, I said it.  Passing yards are completely meaningless.

Edited by USABomberfan

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  • Eternal optimist
    Eternal optimist

    Might be adding fuel to the fire here... but just some stats on Nichols vs other QBs after Week 5: 1. Most TD passes in the league (10). 2. His completion accuracy (69.4%) is right around leagu

  • blue_gold_84
    blue_gold_84

    Aaaaand I spoke too soon.

  • and, just for the record, I'm not absolving Nichols of anything or saying he's the second coming of Tom Brady, but Jesus.....some of you are so far out too lunch and just CONSUMED by negativity. I've

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Bomber win.  Nichols 300 yards.  Thread closed.

I was wrong.  Nichols is not good enough.  Time to give Streveler a lot more game time.  

 

Glad and to see they finally pulled Nichols at the end when it’s obvious he can’t get a first Down.

 

 

glad we won but we need more performance frommQB 

Nichols played just fine. No interceptions and he moved the ball.  Sure you’d like more td’s but I still don’t like some of the play calling by Lapo. Would have been a different game if Matthews caught that ball and the woli catch in the end zone could have gone either way.  

Just now, B-F-F-C said:

Nichols played just fine. No interceptions and he moved the ball.  Sure you’d like more td’s but I still don’t like some of the play calling by Lapo. Would have been a different game if Matthews caught that ball and the woli catch in the end zone could have gone either way.  

They would have kicked the fg earlier. But it was a nice throw with Matthews. 

Hes Soft... Matthews

Nichols tho is experiencing some sort of mental issues on the field.. Biggie also it appears...fear of more injury? It could be.. 

Nichols has not been good. 

Some people will see what they want to see. 

2 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said:

Nichols played just fine. No interceptions and he moved the ball.  Sure you’d like more td’s but I still don’t like some of the play calling by Lapo. Would have been a different game if Matthews caught that ball and the woli catch in the end zone could have gone either way.  

3 steamboats, check down to Harris

3 steamboats, check down to Harris 

If you guys truly believe streveler should be handed the reigns. You’re truly delusional. 

But I almost want to see it so that you’ll finally give it a rest. 

Bombers win no thanks to Nichols.  Defense good, Special teams good, Harris good.  Nichols mediocre.  

Bottom line is he failed to march the team down the field on his own.  He passed for a paltry 177 yards and only 16 first downs.  He failed to generate one TD on offense.  He seemed to expect Harris generate first downs out of nothing per usual and this conservative play nearly cost the Bombers the game.

The past 3 weeks, there is no QB in the league who has generated as little offense as Matt Nichols.

Just now, B-F-F-C said:

If you guys truly believe streveler should be handed the reigns. You’re truly delusional. 

But I almost want to see it so that you’ll finally give it a rest. 

You’re overrating the positive impact Nichols has had on this team’s record and underrating how backbreaking it is when he can’t move the ball in close games. The players would never admit it but it’s a massive handicap. 

6 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

3 steamboats, check down to Harris

3 steamboats, check down to Harris 

The issue is once the pressure is on he doesn’t go through his reads and will not take a unprotected hit in the pocket. 

3 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said:

If you guys truly believe streveler should be handed the reigns. You’re truly delusional. 

But I almost want to see it so that you’ll finally give it a rest. 

Time to find out what he can do.  Give him a series or two.  It doesn't mean he will succeed, but they need to give him more than running plays.  He should be allowed to actually develop with some reps that are more than simple running plays. 

Edited by blueandgoldguy

3 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

The issue is once the pressure is on he doesn’t go through his reads and will not take a unprotected hit in the pocket. 

And streveler does the same thing but he too gets happy feet but tries to make it up with his legs.  Teams will eventually key in on that and make him ineffective. 

Streveler does not progress thru his reads. 

Edited by B-F-F-C

4 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

The issue is once the pressure is on he doesn’t go through his reads and will not take a unprotected hit in the pocket. 

He was also checking down to Harris when he did have time. 

4 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said:

And streveler does the same thing but he too gets happy feet but tries to make it up with his legs.  Teams will eventually key in on that and make him ineffective. 

Streveler does not progress thru his reads. 

My concern is that teams are starting to key in on the Nichols-Harris checkdown. Streveler can run that play too while being a threat to take off himself. He adds another wrinkle. Spreads the D out a bit.

14 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said:

And streveler does the same thing but he too gets happy feet but tries to make it up with his legs.  Teams will eventually key in on that and make him ineffective. 

Streveler does not progress thru his reads. 

We know for certain at this point that Nichols gets happy feet and doesn’t progress through his reads. At least at the absolute bare minimum, Streveler can move the ball with his legs. He’s young and may never amount to anything but you have to take the shot. Stamps didn’t know what they had in Arbuckle until he was pressed into duty and he’s looked real good and confident. I wouldn’t call the gadget plays and garbage time reps a legitimate look at what he’s capable of. 

Edited by AKAChip

I believe 177 tonight. Not good enough. He had the deep ball, he tried twice both were good throws and very close. It was there as Cal was playing aggressive. I don’t know if it’s Nichols or LaPo but we need to push it down field more than we have. Harris was inhumanly good the last two weeks, but we need a passing game. 

28 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said:

Nichols played just fine. No interceptions and he moved the ball.  Sure you’d like more td’s but I still don’t like some of the play calling by Lapo. Would have been a different game if Matthews caught that ball and the woli catch in the end zone could have gone either way.  

Mathews may have caught that pass if it was thrown better.... but even if he didn't he would have been pushed out of bounds for no catch

God help us if this team ever gets down by a couple scores

Bob Irving defending Nichols on the call in show is getting ridiculous.

My bloody PVR facked up and half of the game was scrambled (thanks MTS).

From what I did see ...    Nichols did go intermediate a few times in the first half with great success.  First read quick tosses to Wolly ,  Lawler and Matthews.  It worked beautifully.

After that I saw a continuous checkdown to Harris.   Even Suitor mentioned it. 

I don't know how LaPo can be blamed completely for this all of the time.   He's not calling 3 yard checkdowns to Harris all night long is he?

Just now, Bubba Zanetti said:

God help us if this team ever gets down by a couple scores

This is exactly my thought. We are a good team but I'm not sure if we can come back in a game like Arbuckle nearly did to us.

I love Harris and I'm glad he got some in all 4 quarters for once but he should not be the leading receiver.

Okay he was 2 yards short but it felt like it.

Edited by FrostyWinnipeg

1 hour ago, blueandgoldguy said:

Bombers win no thanks to Nichols.  Defense good, Special teams good, Harris good.  Nichols mediocre.  

Bottom line is he failed to march the team down the field on his own.  He passed for a paltry 177 yards and only 16 first downs.  He failed to generate one TD on offense.  He seemed to expect Harris generate first downs out of nothing per usual and this conservative play nearly cost the Bombers the game.

The past 3 weeks, there is no QB in the league who has generated as little offense as Matt Nichols.

T.O.P. Bombers 33:41, Stamps 26:19, despite two S.T. TD's that kept the Bomber offence off the field in the first half.  If Nichols couldn't move the ball, how do you explain that differential?

2 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

T.O.P. Bombers 33:41, Stamps 26:19, despite two S.T. TD's that kept the Bomber offence off the field in the first half.  If Nichols couldn't move the ball, how do you explain that differential?

Herp Derp! Nichols suck!

10 receptions from all receivers combined... 8 by Harris.   This is alarming.   

Matt had once again better then average protection, a great running game to support him..... dude completely fell off the face of the earth in the 2nd half.   

 

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