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👁‍🗨well, if you go by stats..the Bombers are in for a tough time in Regina.. Ugly, ugly stats

Chris Jones is 46-35 as a HC

Mike O’Shea is 40-42

Sask is 35-19 over Wpg in the Labour Day Classic.

29 of those games have been decided only in the last 3 minutes.

The meetings since 2002 have generally not been all that close - only 5 of the last 16 games were decided in the last 3:00 - Saskatchewan comes into the game with a better record (5-4 vs 5-5) than Winnipeg for the first time since 2014

- QBs: Saskatchewan will start their 4th straight different QB in the Classic, with Zach Collaros; Matt Nichols will start his 3rd in a row  (Nichols started once for Edmonton vs Calgary and threw for 203 yards); Matt Nichols has yet to be held under 300 passing yards; he has 341 & 364 yards in his two Winnipeg LDW starts (16-17)  (Nichols started once for Edmonton vs Calgary and threw for 203 yards)

- Zach Collaros has also yet to be held under 300 passing yards in an LDW game; his three 300+ games were with Hamilton

- Zach Collaros becomes the 38th player to start a Labour Day Weekend game for the Riders; Nichols is starter #39 for Winnipeg

- Winnipeg snapped a Saskatchewan 11-game win streak in their 2016 LD Weekend meeting but dropped to 1 win in 13 last year

- The Riders have outgained Winnipeg in the last 7 LDW meetings by over 100 yards per game (Avg: 388 to 275)

Breaking Down Who Wins LDW Classic: There have been 54 previous games in this LD matchup and here is how it has broken down based on which club came into the game with a better record. The Bombers are 5-5 this year compared to the Riders at 5-4.

WPG came in with better record: 29 times (Wins: SSK 18, WPG 11)

SSK came in with better record: 15 times (Wins: SSK 11, WPG 4) Note: Teams came in with even records 10 times

As the Riders were seeking in 2017, the underdog has often won this LD Weekend matchup. The Bombers have only 4 upset wins as underdogs i.e. the team lower in the standings heading in.

___________________________________________________________________________________________ Other Team Notes – Winnipeg at Saskatchewan:

- Charleston Hughes: Leads the CFL with 12 Sacks (7 more than any other player) and comes into this game with a streak of 7 straight games with at least one. That is the longest consecutive games streak in his career, his previous long run was set at 6 in a row from Jun 28/14 to Aug 9/14.

- Most consecutive games with a QB Sack: Over the last 25 years, here are the longest streaks with at least one QB Sack. Charleston Hughes has tied the most by any Saskatchewan player and is 3 short of the highest on record since 1994

👁‍🗨Joe Montford and Philip Hunt are the two players ahead of Hughes, each with 10 game streaks.

- Sam Hurl 100 GP/ U of Calgary: Hurl will suit up this week for CFL game #100 in his career and it will be start #56. He is a prominent member of a remarkable 99 players that have come to the CFL from the Dinos - of those 99 individuals Hurl will become the 20th player of this group to make it to 100 career regular season games.

- Nichols 9-3 .750 coming off a loss: Despite a second straight loss last week, Matt Nichols has had a remarkable run since July 2016 in the next start after a Blue Bombers loss as he will be doing again this week. In his last 12 starts after a Winnipeg defeat the club has gone 9-3 for a .750 winning %.

- Avoiding 3 losses in a row: The Bombers have not lost 3 games in a row in the same season since the final three weeks of 2015. They have gone a span of 46 games with just 5 streaks of 2 defeats in a row and none longer than that.

5 of the last 6: The Riders have beaten Winnipeg just once in the last 6 games. This is the best Bombers' 6-game run against their Saskatchewan rivals in the last 13 years.

Opponents' 502 net yards: The Bombers yielded just 325 net yards per game over their first 8 contests and through Week #9 ranked #4 in the CFL. Since then, they have given up 502 yards per game (493 & 511), the highest in the CFL since Week #9. The main area where this has come is on 1st down plays. First 8 games: 6.3 yards per play, Gm #9-10: 8.3 yards per play.

Riders Sacks Allowed: Saskatchewan allowed 9 Sacks in their first 4 games. Since then in 5 games they have yielded just 3. Expect some 2-&-Outs: The Riders are #1 forcing opponents 62 times into a 2-&-Out. Winnipeg is #3 with 53 forced 2-&-Outs.

- Jovon Johnson: Sat out last week's game and that snapped his consecutive games played streak at 73 in a row.

Andrew Harris: Was held to just 13 yards rushing last week on 7 carries. That tied his lowest yardage since Oct 7/15 vs EDM.

- Josh Bartel Inside the 10: Bartel has 6 punts pinning opponents inside the 10-yard line this year, one off the CFL lead. He is #2 overall with 60 since 2012. Winnipeg's Justin Medlock in many less games is #3 since 2012 with 36 including 7 in 2018.

- Offensive & Defensive TD Same Game: The Riders' Nick Marshall scored a touchdown on offence and defence in the same game two weeks ago with a 3-yard rush and a 67-yard INT return. That specific Offence/Defence TD pair had not occurred since Tyrone Walls for Edmonton on September 4, 1972 a span of 46 years. There have been only 4 such pure occurrences in the last 50 years. Last week, Marshall scored another offensive TD on a short run and actually leads the club in touchdowns with 4.

The nearest since 1972 was Milt Stegall on July 15, 1999 who caught a 37-yard TD pass from Kerwin Bell and returned a blocked punt/fumble 52 yards for a score.

Edited September 2, 20187 yr by Mr Dee

2 minutes ago, White Out said:

So what? Receiver got his hands on it and volleyed it to the D 

The receiver was fighting a defender and trying to leap...he barely got one hand on the ball it was high in the air

2 hours ago, NorthernSkunk said:

Or he throws it too high...or he waits too long then throws it out of bounds....or he throws it behind the reciever.....or he throws it into the turf short of the receiver.....etc etc

Contrast the ducks that Nichols threw for the most part against the dart Streveler threw into the end zone.

8 minutes ago, Dragon37 said:

I blame this on the entire team. They played well in the first half. Both sides of the ball failed in the second half. Yeah I can **** on the defence because they allowed the points when they needed to stand strong. 

You forgot about the punt return TD in the first half so throw ST's in there as well. 

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

You forgot about the punt return TD in the first half so throw ST's in there as well. 

I thought that was obvious lol. Most of the talk was whether the O or D cost the game when it should be very obvious that they both did

Edited September 2, 20187 yr by Dragon37

Just good enough to lose. Yay?

No confidence when the game is on the line that we can get a score or a stop. Bleh.

2 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

You forgot about the punt return TD in the first half so throw ST's in there as well. 

The holding not called on that return was the insane. 

Just now, Mark H. said:

The holding not called on that return was the insane. 

Block in the back on Morgan as he's halfway to getting the returner onto the turf.  How they missed that, I don't know.  3 officials should be looking right at it.

3 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

The holding not called on that return was the insane. 

If it wasn't called then it didn't happen, (alternate universe, I guess by Proulx).  Lots of whiffs & lack of contain on that return. 

Edited September 2, 20187 yr by SpeedFlex27

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

If it wasn't called then it didn't happen, I guess. Lots of whiffs & lack of contain on that return. 

You’ve completely lost me this time. 

Just now, Mark H. said:

You’ve completely lost me this time. 

Like cheating, if it ain't caught.  

3 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

The holding not called on that return was the insane. 

I though so at first but the replay showed all initial blocks were clean. Players were not in their lanes though.

6 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

You forgot about the punt return TD in the first half so throw ST's in there as well. 

Duck that, I am not blaming the 1...2...3... missed illegal blocks on our STs that's on that motherducker proxl. I would love to see the ref cam on that play.

Just now, Dragon37 said:

I though so at first but the replay showed all initial blocks were clean. Players were not in their lanes though.

Players all bunched up & the returner took it to his left. Most of the defenders were out of position. 

1 minute ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Duck that, I am not blaming the 1...2...3... missed illegal blocks on our STs that's on that motherducker proxl. I would love to see the ref cam on that play.

They were clean. The end zone replay shows it was a clean return 

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Players all bunched up & the returner took it to his left. Most of the defenders were out of position. 

It was a sloppy piece of crap coverage 

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Players all bunched up & the returner took it to his left. Most of the defenders were out of position. 

Morgan literally had him halfway to the turf when he was chucked off by a 2 hand shove in the back.

8 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

The holding not called on that return was the insane. 

If we're at the point where we're relying on CFL refereeing to win games - we are in serious trouble.

20 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Nobody hates Nichols. Ffs drama queen much? Hes been bad for a year now tho. About time to accept it. 

I hate Nichols.

He is absolutely terrible. 

People like @White Out continually show how little they get football by going on and on about the D. How much longer can they continue to get blamed for letting up after the O goes 2 and out for the 4th straight time. No D would be good enough to continually stop an O that gets the ball back every 45 seconds.

29 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said:

Hall's defence gave us an opportunity to win the game.  It was our offence who couldn't convert opportunities in to majors. 

I was satisfied with the defence today.

Really? That confusion resulting in the wide open receiver for the Riders in the end zone was unacceptable. Two guys waving each other into different positions resulting in one of them getting burned. By Game 11 that **** needs to be ironed out.

21 minutes ago, White Out said:

So what? Receiver got his hands on it and volleyed it to the D 

So what? The receiver tried to make a play on an absolutely trash throw.

Special teams on this club are suffering from severe 'suckage'....We get nothing on returns and it's an adventure on a lot of the opposition returns.. That was supposed to be the 'hallmark' of success on this club...(Mike O'Shea's words)....Should be one of the strongest part of our game and yet year in and year out we can't find that speedy little game breaker on returns, like most successful teams manage to find and it's far from being a strong point on this club....Not good enough after 5 yrs.

1 minute ago, J5V said:

Really? That confusion resulting in the wide open receiver for the Riders in the end zone was unacceptable. Two guys waving each other into different positions resulting in one of them getting burned. By Game 11 that **** needs to be ironed out.

You have tunnel vision my friend

2 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Morgan literally had him halfway to the turf when he was chucked off by a 2 hand shove in the back.

Play happened so fast. wasn't able to see the replay except once right after the score. I'll take your word for it. 

Just now, Stickem said:

Special teams on this club are suffering from severe 'suckage'....We get nothing on returns and it's an adventure on a lot of the opposition returns.. That was supposed to be the 'hallmark' of success on this club...(Mike O'Shea's words)....Should be one of the strongest part of our game and yet year in and year out we can't find that speedy little game breaker on returns, like most successful teams manage to find and it's far from being a strong point on this club....Not good enough after 5 yrs.

Routinely gain 5 or more yards on net punting almost every week.  Best in the league.

Just now, Mike said:

You have tunnel vision my friend

And you have far too much faith in the D.