Mark F Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: But hey he didn't start any wars. tried..... with Iran. also , (only inamerica) hes still pullingthe levers, even though he lost. what a ******* contraption they have down there for governing. https://www.salon.com/2020/12/03/trumps-outrageous-lies-used-to-be-terrifying--now-theyre-just-pathetic/ Edited December 4, 2020 by Mark F Mr Dee and Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: But hey he didn't start any wars. Not in foreign countries, but is working hard to start another civil war on American soil. HardCoreBlue, Mark F and Wanna-B-Fanboy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 12 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said: But hey he didn't start any wars. Love that argument. The guy who destabilized many countries and regions, who has put so many weapons in authoritarian hands but is somehow NOT a warmonger. Disgusting. HardCoreBlue and Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Comes with a whole set of crayons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeart Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 wasn't sure where this should be but good riddance either way https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/fcc-ajit-pai-leave-january-2021-biden-president-1234842166/?fbclid=IwAR2PtoC7jbMLX7fv7QNpRYUXlTW99iGrgAgDc6WCbBPUYEUG1MuWiAlGIxU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Flynn might not be in the clear yet and this might be an indication for Trump trying to get pre-emptive pardon for his kids and cronies. Tracker and Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, bustamente said: Flynn might not be in the clear yet and this might be an indication for Trump trying to get pre-emptive pardon for his kids and cronies. bustamente and Wanna-B-Fanboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HardCoreBlue Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Biden's approach seems to be we need to restore unity, grace, kindness etc with a cost of not keeping certain people accountable for their criminal and or immoral actions. I know he ran on the platform of Unity but it certainly is hard to stomach that certain people may be let off the hook for the greater good. Can't we do both, hold certain people accountable for their behaviours that have ran roughshod over America the last four years AND invest forward on mending fences and bringing people together? I understand the logic of having to look forward and not investing any energy in looking behind but c'mon man (said while breathing in and out of a paper bag). Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 If Biden let's these crooks off the hook all that will happen is Republicans will sweep the midterms and next presidential election. Mark F, Tracker and Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: Can't we do both, hold certain people accountable for their behaviours that have ran roughshod over America the last four years AND invest forward on mending fences and bringing people together? This will be done. In an America that the Trump administration left behind, the new administration has a lot of work to do. A lot. There is so much to fix, and it will take time. He’s going to need co-operation from a lot of people and repairs are already being undertaken. Can it be done Biden’s way? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, 17to85 said: If Biden let's these crooks off the hook all that will happen is Republicans will sweep the midterms and next presidential election. Silence is complicity and silence from the incoming Biden administration would signal that the GOP can do whatever they want with impunity. It would also mean that they see whatever Trump and his sycomphants did as licit, and open the floodgates all manner of election tampering and corruption. Precedent is very important in law. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Trump Pentagon Pick Suggested President Should Declare Martial Law Over Election ‘Coup’: ‘NOT A BAD IDEA’ Reuters President Trump’s nominee for a senior post at the Pentagon has repeatedly spread false conspiracies about the 2020 election, reposting tweets that it was stolen from Trump as part of an attempted “coup” and that Trump should declare martial law, CNN reports. Texan Scott O’Grady, an ex-fighter pilot who’s been nominated for assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs, retweeted a post on Nov. 25 that falsely declared, “Trump won & Biden & his Comrades will now attempt a coup.” The tweet featured a doctored photo of Biden with Chinese President Xi Jinping. Several days later, he reposted a tweet suggesting it was time for Trump to invoke martial law. “I don’t know who needs to hear this,” the post read, “But calling for martial law is not a bad idea when there is an attempted coup against the president and this country happening right now.” That same account also posted an article about former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn calling for martial law in a petition, which O’Grady shared as well. Wanna-B-Fanboy and Mr Dee 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 The country stands to gain by defeating her in the run-off election bustamente 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Unless Dems win both run-off seats and gain control of the Senate, we will not see Trump prosecuted. Even if they do, he will have his hands full with many things and may not want to distract Congress with a political pissing match. If the Dems want to enact true change and bring a scorched earth policy to crush all the Republican corruption and enabling, they first need the clear majority mandate not to lose power in 2 years. So gain the Senate first, then open up voting laws to ensure a maximum participation of voters and elimination of gerrymandering and the electoral college. Then they will have a solid long term base of the majority of voters and can make change without much fear of reprisal. Only then can they safely engage in Trump payback, which would be more for show than actual punishment anyway. They may be content to let NY state take a run at the Donald, and let Rudy and Roger Stone and Steve Bannon slink back under hero respective rocks of irrelevance once they have no true influential power. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 A normal interview? Who can remember those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Unless Dems win both run-off seats and gain control of the Senate, we will not see Trump prosecuted. Even if they do, he will have his hands full with many things and may not want to distract Congress with a political pissing match. If the Dems want to enact true change and bring a scorched earth policy to crush all the Republican corruption and enabling, they first need the clear majority mandate not to lose power in 2 years. So gain the Senate first, then open up voting laws to ensure a maximum participation of voters and elimination of gerrymandering and the electoral college. Then they will have a solid long term base of the majority of voters and can make change without much fear of reprisal. Only then can they safely engage in Trump payback, which would be more for show than actual punishment anyway. They may be content to let NY state take a run at the Donald, and let Rudy and Roger Stone and Steve Bannon slink back under hero respective rocks of irrelevance once they have no true influential power. The DOJ and the individual states can go after Trump. They don't need the Senate for that. The problem you're going to have is that you need legislation that will stand up the the Supreme Court. Right now, nothing the Dems put forward for electoral reform will not pass the alt-right court. The electoral college is going to be near impossible to remove without bilateral support and there is no way you're going to get smaller state senators of either party to support it. Mr Dee and Wanna-B-Fanboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: A normal interview? Who can remember those? Apparently McConnell has decided to make things as difficult as possible for Biden, so reaching out to the GOP will be futile, and a sign to the GOP that Biden is weak. Prosecuting Trump and his followers to the full extent of the law ought to give them some pause. Edited December 4, 2020 by Tracker JCon, Wanna-B-Fanboy and bustamente 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 I think Rev. Warnock will beat Loeffler no problem, Osoff has a good chance against Perdue, only then can Biden have any effect but being 50/50 with the VP on the Dems side Biden will have to be careful with his side. 4 minutes ago, Tracker said: Apparently McConnell has decided to make things as difficult as possible for Biden, so reaching out to the GOP will be futile, and a sign to the GOP that Biden is weak. Prosecuting Trump and his followers to the full extent of the law ought to give them some pause. Biden is being diplomatic in terms of McConnell he knows his Presidency goes nowhere with him as majority leader, play the game and let the House committee's go after Trump and his cronies and show the American public and yes even his followers what a failed and crooked administration they liked and how it affected them Wanna-B-Fanboy and Mr Dee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Yeah, he’s so stagnant now.. blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: Yeah, he’s so stagnant now.. Many of them are probably foreign influencing twitter bots that have been purged and not replaced.... because really- who backs a loser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Is Rudy getting ready to pack it in, sound like Rudy is exhausted of making a fool of himself Wanna-B-Fanboy and Mr Dee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Most would be bots and many are going to Parler. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Was it worth it little fly? Tracker, blue_gold_84, Mark F and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Tracker said: Silence is complicity and silence from the incoming Biden administration would signal that the GOP can do whatever they want with impunity. It would also mean that they see whatever Trump and his sycomphants did as licit, and open the floodgates all manner of election tampering and corruption. Precedent is very important in law. People didn't turn out en masse to support Biden, they did it to oust the mob boss in the big chair. They don't do something to make sure Republicans know this is unacceptable and voters will just stay home going forward because nothing matters. Tracker and Wanna-B-Fanboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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