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17 hours ago, wbbfan said:
I’ve heard a few Argos fans hoping/theorizing that they will steal hall from us.
That seems super unlikely at this point in his career.
Especially with the way MOS and Younger have been talking about his role going into next year. Seems pretty settled already.
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23 minutes ago, JCon said:
It was reported that year 2 was 300k.
But I'm talking about the difference from Year 1 to Year 2.
It's wonderful that he's taking less than he was supposed to, but it still represents more of our cap space than he took up last year (if the numbers reported are to be believed - which is iffy at best, of course).
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15 hours ago, Tracker said:
Kenny Lawler restructures contract with Winnipeg Blue Bombers
January 16, 2024
Photo: Reuben Polansky/3DownNation. All rights reserved.
Winnipeg Blue Bombers’ receiver Kenny Lawler has restructured his contract for the 2024 season, per league sources.
The six-foot-two, 199-pound target received a $150,000 signing bonus to ink his new deal, which includes $115,000 in base salary, a $13,800 housing bonus, and a $7,200 travel bonus. In total, Lawler will earn $285,000 in hard money this year.
The 29-year-old was originally slated to earn $310,000 in 2024, though he’s expected to net more on his new deal as signing bonuses are taxed at a lower rate for American players. He had a $125,000 off-season roster bonus due on Monday, Jan. 15, which led to his deal being renegotiated.
I don't want to sound like a naysayer, but when I look up receiver salaries from last year, 3down reported that Kenny was supposed to earn 250k in hard money with a max of 258. If we're taking these numbers at face value, Kenny is still getting a significant raise this year. Not as much of a raise as he was scheduled to get, but it still represents less money from last year, not more.
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2 hours ago, greenrider55 said:
Nield was very good to end the year, likely what made Gittens more expendable.
Count me in the group that thinks the Elks win this trade as of now though. Ceresna, while good, I’m not sure has the same value.
I think Ceresna has more on-field value, if you take age and ant status out of the equation.
And TO must be bracing to lose some DL pieces in FA. I think the trade works for both sides.
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Shocked Chris Jones makes that move.
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16 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
That was always the case though... what do the other signings around the league have to do with this? I mean a guy like Purifoy resigning in Edmonton has no bearing on Schoen or Brady's situation. I haven't seen too many signings (if any) that I'd been wishing the player had made it to FA.
It does not have any direct bearing, other than the fact that there was a post-Christmas lull and now things seem to be picking up again.
Walters will need time to get other players under contract and/or figure put replacement plans and we still seem to be in a holding pattern. Probably can't let it go on too much longer.
20 minutes ago, wbbfan said:If fa starts and one or both aren’t under contract it sounds like walters will pursue replacements with those dollars rather than wait and hope they return.
I’d wait on schoen and not on Brady.I understand the reasoning on wait on Schoen, but he may be the more difficult sign. I can't help but think he's going to have a few teams bidding higher than we can reasonably expect to compete with.
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1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:
Why?
Walters has said at some point he will have to move on and start allocating the funds to the remaining players on our FA list.
Right now he's holding off because, if one or both of Brady and Dalton sign, it will mean making different choices. But at some point, he's going to accept that they're not going to sign and he'll move on. This decision will need to be made with enough time left before free agency to negotiate the remaining contracts we want to extend.
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Starting to notice more signings around the league again the past few days. Might be getting close to the time Walter’s says now or never to Brady and Dalton.
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11 hours ago, Noeller said:
I don't understand why Brown would choose that situation over sitting behind Collaros.... I mean if you're gonna sit behind someone....?? Unless he just assumes Harris is gonna get hurt again...
Zach in an entrenched, MOP starter. He plays every game outside of injury or end of year scenarios. Coaches will let him play himself out of rough stretches, because they know he's capable of it. Zach has 2 years left on his deal and no one knows if he is going to retire at that point.
Then you got Harris, who has completed maybe 4 games for the Riders and has a new coach with zero ties to him. Injury, poor play, losing streak. Multiple scenarios where they could potentially make a QB switch. Harris has one year left on his deal and would need to prove he's worth it to get another deal.
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11 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
Interesting timing to add an American RB... 😂
I know what you're saying, but there's always some extra bodies at camp.
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23 minutes ago, Doublezero said:
I like Johnny Augustine. Bring in Jeshrun Antwi and you've got the 2 Canuck RB formula for the ratio. Then maybe you've got money in the QB envelope for quarterback 1a.
If we don’t have Brady, it’s import at RB.
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45 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:
Talking about money and seeing a handfull of QBs around the league restructuring their deals, is there any chance Zach does so as well?
Shaving 100k off Zach's contract would definitely help bring some of the other guys back.
The QBs in question are terrible and renegotiating so they aren't cut outright,
Zach equaled the performance that got him the contract in the first place.
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2 minutes ago, GCn20 said:
It is true. Yes, we've paid fairly but just off the top of my head both Lawler and Jefferson took less money than they were offered elsewhere to be in Winnipeg. Both players confirmed this.
Maybe in a very literal sense some players were offered "more".
This just might be me, but if Toronto offers Kenny 310 and we offer him 305 (especially considering the cost of living between the two cities, I don't really feel as if the player accepted less to be here. Same thing with Willie. We made him the highest paid defensive player in the league when he came here. If teams ever offered more than we did, it certainly wasn't by anything significant.
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3 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:
I think a rookie impact Imp Rb is exactly what we need. Cap friendly rookie contract locked up for 2+ years. Disperse the savings to other areas of need.
Team building wise, that would be huge.
But it only works if you hit on the rookie. Get a Dalton Schoen at the RB position.
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2 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:
Ummm, its 100% true that there are currently numerous Bomber players who have taken less money to come back during the current almost-dynasty.
I keep hearing that. But we had to make Zach the highest paid player in the league, we've made both Willie and Adam the highest paid defensive players at different times. Kenny left for more money and only came back when we paid him 300+ (saying he left money isn't the only thing that matters but contract saying otherwise). Everyone says Bailey came back for less money, but he went into FA and then came back so I honestly just believe the offers out there just weren't what he thought they'd be.
Who's taken less money to be here?
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30 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:
I would think that his recent twitter comments may rub more than a few players the wrong way too. A lot of the guys in the Bomber locker room have taken less money to come back here for the betterment of the team. Passing up more cash elsewhere to win with their brothers. And then youve got BO throwing up money bag emojis online essentially teasing about going to the highest bidder. Not great optics and bound to irritate the guys who have done the complete opposite for the better of the team.
This isn't really true. We've consistently paid guys at the top of the pay scale to get them here and keep them here.
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2 hours ago, Goalie said:
The oline could have pushed me 20 yards each run also. Just saying.
ppl are letting their heart and emotions come into play. He’s a Winnipeg kid so ppl are blinded a bit. I’d take a Charles Roberts who is consistent over a dude who NEEDS 20 touches a game to actually hit 100 yards. 5.8 avg? Augustine at 5.6 average. It’s the Oline not the back.
Ok, now I think people are going too hard in the other direction here.
Last year Brady was absolute crap for the first half of the season and clearly made changes to be the incredible back he was for the last half of 2022 and all of 2023. It is not all the OL and not every back will have close to his success. Augustine had a high average at the end of blow out games. It's not an equal comparison.
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Brady is an all round great back. What he does is repeatable and he'd continue to have success for a long time. He'd break records and he's do it as a local kid. So, it would be tough to lose him.
We will probably not fall backwards into another great back, you may get a good percentage of the the production at a vastly different price point though. It would be nice to add home run speed into the equation, as that's an element Brady doesn't bring (and why he shouldn't reset the market, imo - even if there's an RB who does). But it's likely that we go by committee and cycle through different backs in the future if we're unable to retain Brady's services, and that just sucks.
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6 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
I'm unhappy about losing both games in the final minute. Never should have happened. I don't care if it's hard or not.
So am I, obviously.
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9 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said:
Were the bombers the best team in 2019? No.
It doesn't matter who "the best" is.
What matters is the championship.
The last two years has shown that the championship pedigree isn't there. That's why I'm reticent over the commitment to that core.
Making the game is championship pedigree. At that point, it’s any given Sunday.
look at the Stamp and Als dynasties across the last 20ish years. Pretty poor records in the play-offs and Grey Cups compared to how many regular season victories they had.
Winning the Championship is hard. Y’all unsatisfied about only winning 2 of the last 4 cups, honestly.
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17 minutes ago, Noeller said:
really curious about what the LB salaries are.... I was definitely unaware (if) Bighill is making "top 3" money at his position. Also Brian Cole is an upgrade at LB, with Kyrie Wilson sliding over to the middle, if needed. I have no problem with that scenario. And hopefully we have plenty more in camp this year to start getting ready for '25....
He was the third highest, but that was only 165k. LBs aren’t paid as much as other position groups.
27 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said:The best team in the league didn't win the Grey Cup?
lol. In what world were the Als the best team in the league last year?
2023/2024 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread (BRADY’S BACK! DALTON’S BACK!)
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Not really, he even said in the article it's what you do as you get to this point in your career.
He's not at his peak.