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1 minute ago, GCn20 said:
Most of what I see from Schoen is that he is one of, if not the best receiver in this league at getting behind coverage and catching the ball on the run. Fajardo can't hit a moving target.
It's a fair point. But that's also when he has Zach at QB.
I can imagine him making the necessary changes to accommodate another QB.
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20 minutes ago, Blue In BC said:
Yes, but adding in Rhymes @ about $210K per season changes the dynamic. Receiver is not the only area that needs to be upgraded. They might take a shot at upgrading at RB with either Oliveria or Ouellette for example. They also have Hardy and just extended Acklin. So their receiving group is not that bad if they get quality work at the QB position.
Sure, they have lots of work to do, but premium players wont be available at every position.
BC just signed 2 of their receivers for 200+ contracts and then Cottoy (didn't see that one's numbers). We have Lawler and Demski and still are trying to sign Schoen.
There's nothing from keeping Ottawa from trying to sign Schoen as well.
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19 minutes ago, Blue In BC said:
Something is better than nothing but he still might reach free agency and see what offers he receives. Sad to see him go but it seemed inevitable. Good luck to him and his continued CFL success.
Anything is theoretically possible until he signs, but I doubt this trade is made unless Brown and Ottawa already had some back door conversations.
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27 minutes ago, BBlink said:
At this point sure. Still kind of surprised it's only A 5th. Doesn't seem like we got the most return we could have if we traded him earlier. Damn
Meh, it was a foregone conclusion he was going there anyway. They didn't have to send anything. But this allows them to get a contract in place before FA and move onto the next thing on their list.
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14 minutes ago, Blue In BC said:
That will be one less place that Schoen might land.
Not necessarily. Do they have any other big receiver deals on the books?
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5 minutes ago, Booch said:
I wouldnt pay that....but hear that is what we willing to do....give or take a schekle.....and some guarantee money too if he takes 3 yrs in that area/range
I know you wouldn't (and that's fair), but I've always been pretty convinced that we'd be a top bidder. He's just more valuable to us than he'd be anywhere else and that goes both ways. He'd be a fool to leave.
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14 minutes ago, Booch said:
was hearing an offer of 2 yrs...175/190.....Or thats what our capped out dollar amount is....don't use as verbatim tho
That's more than I'd like to pay, but I believe that the WFC is willing to go there. It makes sense.
I also believe that Brady is probably using the 250 number to try and pull us towards and over the 200 line. But that is just too much and would just hurt the team more than it would help us.
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4 minutes ago, GCn20 said:
Schoen would be wasted on CodyFaj. Cody does not have the accuracy to utilize the strengths of Schoen. Lawler is the type of receiver he needs. A guy who can still make the catch on a very poorly thrown ball.
Schoen would absolutely not reach his potential, but he's the guy I think CoFaj needs. He finds open space when the QB is running around.
Kenny wants to make the big play and CoFaj won't be able to get it there. Kenny would make his highlight reel catches here and there but it'd be a lot of incompletions and interceptions.
Obviously any great receiver makes any QB look better. But I think Schoen's play style would be more valuable for them. If they're sitting there trying to wonder who to make a play for, Schoen or Rhymes, for example.
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1 hour ago, bluto said:
I was thinking the same. I've got nothing to back that up other than it just feels like a very Alouettes thing to do.
And not everybody will be in for Schoen... My team has FA/Salary issues aplenty without trying for that sort of move.
I just think Cody needs a receiver like him, who knows when to break off his routes and come back to the QB when he's running around. He does so well at finding open space. If Montreal wants to commit to Fajardo, Schoen's the best guy for him.
BUT, I'm obviously hoping we're in his ear and can convince that he's going to be much more successful by staying here with us. Hopefully we got Kenny and Zach in his ear too.
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9 hours ago, Brandon said:
I can see Rhymes going to Montreal to replace Mack.
I've been expecting them to make a big push for Schoen.
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29 minutes ago, Noeller said:
interesting that Stan took a cut.........
Not really, he even said in the article it's what you do as you get to this point in your career.
He's not at his peak.
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17 hours ago, wbbfan said:
I’ve heard a few Argos fans hoping/theorizing that they will steal hall from us.
That seems super unlikely at this point in his career.
Especially with the way MOS and Younger have been talking about his role going into next year. Seems pretty settled already.
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23 minutes ago, JCon said:
It was reported that year 2 was 300k.
But I'm talking about the difference from Year 1 to Year 2.
It's wonderful that he's taking less than he was supposed to, but it still represents more of our cap space than he took up last year (if the numbers reported are to be believed - which is iffy at best, of course).
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15 hours ago, Tracker said:
Kenny Lawler restructures contract with Winnipeg Blue Bombers
January 16, 2024
Photo: Reuben Polansky/3DownNation. All rights reserved.
Winnipeg Blue Bombers’ receiver Kenny Lawler has restructured his contract for the 2024 season, per league sources.
The six-foot-two, 199-pound target received a $150,000 signing bonus to ink his new deal, which includes $115,000 in base salary, a $13,800 housing bonus, and a $7,200 travel bonus. In total, Lawler will earn $285,000 in hard money this year.
The 29-year-old was originally slated to earn $310,000 in 2024, though he’s expected to net more on his new deal as signing bonuses are taxed at a lower rate for American players. He had a $125,000 off-season roster bonus due on Monday, Jan. 15, which led to his deal being renegotiated.
I don't want to sound like a naysayer, but when I look up receiver salaries from last year, 3down reported that Kenny was supposed to earn 250k in hard money with a max of 258. If we're taking these numbers at face value, Kenny is still getting a significant raise this year. Not as much of a raise as he was scheduled to get, but it still represents less money from last year, not more.
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2 hours ago, greenrider55 said:
Nield was very good to end the year, likely what made Gittens more expendable.
Count me in the group that thinks the Elks win this trade as of now though. Ceresna, while good, I’m not sure has the same value.
I think Ceresna has more on-field value, if you take age and ant status out of the equation.
And TO must be bracing to lose some DL pieces in FA. I think the trade works for both sides.
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Shocked Chris Jones makes that move.
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16 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
That was always the case though... what do the other signings around the league have to do with this? I mean a guy like Purifoy resigning in Edmonton has no bearing on Schoen or Brady's situation. I haven't seen too many signings (if any) that I'd been wishing the player had made it to FA.
It does not have any direct bearing, other than the fact that there was a post-Christmas lull and now things seem to be picking up again.
Walters will need time to get other players under contract and/or figure put replacement plans and we still seem to be in a holding pattern. Probably can't let it go on too much longer.
20 minutes ago, wbbfan said:If fa starts and one or both aren’t under contract it sounds like walters will pursue replacements with those dollars rather than wait and hope they return.
I’d wait on schoen and not on Brady.I understand the reasoning on wait on Schoen, but he may be the more difficult sign. I can't help but think he's going to have a few teams bidding higher than we can reasonably expect to compete with.
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1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:
Why?
Walters has said at some point he will have to move on and start allocating the funds to the remaining players on our FA list.
Right now he's holding off because, if one or both of Brady and Dalton sign, it will mean making different choices. But at some point, he's going to accept that they're not going to sign and he'll move on. This decision will need to be made with enough time left before free agency to negotiate the remaining contracts we want to extend.
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Starting to notice more signings around the league again the past few days. Might be getting close to the time Walter’s says now or never to Brady and Dalton.
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11 hours ago, Noeller said:
I don't understand why Brown would choose that situation over sitting behind Collaros.... I mean if you're gonna sit behind someone....?? Unless he just assumes Harris is gonna get hurt again...
Zach in an entrenched, MOP starter. He plays every game outside of injury or end of year scenarios. Coaches will let him play himself out of rough stretches, because they know he's capable of it. Zach has 2 years left on his deal and no one knows if he is going to retire at that point.
Then you got Harris, who has completed maybe 4 games for the Riders and has a new coach with zero ties to him. Injury, poor play, losing streak. Multiple scenarios where they could potentially make a QB switch. Harris has one year left on his deal and would need to prove he's worth it to get another deal.
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11 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
Interesting timing to add an American RB... 😂
I know what you're saying, but there's always some extra bodies at camp.
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23 minutes ago, Doublezero said:
I like Johnny Augustine. Bring in Jeshrun Antwi and you've got the 2 Canuck RB formula for the ratio. Then maybe you've got money in the QB envelope for quarterback 1a.
If we don’t have Brady, it’s import at RB.
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45 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:
Talking about money and seeing a handfull of QBs around the league restructuring their deals, is there any chance Zach does so as well?
Shaving 100k off Zach's contract would definitely help bring some of the other guys back.
The QBs in question are terrible and renegotiating so they aren't cut outright,
Zach equaled the performance that got him the contract in the first place.
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They often do. Hasn't quite worked out for them yet.