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3 minutes ago, JCon said:
Fort Hew is getting a new name...
Bombers’ home to be renamed Princess Auto Stadium
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2024/01/22/bombers-home-getting-new-name
I am a fan of Princess Auto, but this feels like the equivalent of Giant Tiger Stadium.
This is disgusting.
Schoen and Brady better both be signed for this.
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3 minutes ago, Pete Catan's Ghost said:
Playing a bit of silly bugger here.
Imagine a world where a player (Dru Brown) whose neg. rights have been traded (Ottawa), yet after careful consideration, he chooses to resign with Wpg.
Im guessing that the trade agreement doesn’t allow for this or minimally revokes the terms of the original trade.
I'm sure he could do it if he wanted, but I imagine it's pretty set in stone that he's signing with Ottawa.
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54 minutes ago, Booch said:
I also think it's one or the other ultimately, and smart money and who is more valuable and roster flex and replacement ease leans heavily into Schoen's camp.....if BO tho wants to accept fair compensation, and sign a 3 yr deal at 145/165/195 with a guarantee in yr 3 then that makes sense and doesn't upset the apple cart for this yr....He is really easily replaced on the cheap, and I think his bargaining power isn't as strong as he thinks it is
I agree with this, and that's why I think it's more likely that he's the one we sign.
Schoen would probably have to accept far less to stay here than he would get on the open market. I'm hopeful, but I just can't see how the math would work.
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9 hours ago, Goalie said:
Why would it come down to either or tho. Why not both?
on a side note .zach collaros chilling with T swift tonight at the bills chiefs game. Zach went to school with the Kelce guys.
There's very obvious reasons why not both.
Walters could obviously give them both any deal they want, it would just come at the expense at other parts of the roster. At a certain point, it would do more harm than good.
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5 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Seems I'm the butt of the jokes here by a couple of real losers.... ERRRRRR...... posters because of my age but so be it, I guess. What else is new, anyway???
Hey man, if you look up, everyone is taking shots at each other, laughing about, and then taking a shot at themselves too.
I'll argue with you about football all day long, but don't take any of the other stuff personally.
And I did happen to be 16 back then and am still in my 30's. So there.
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4 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
An easy schedule or winning can hide or push problems to the side. Then the playoffs hit & the problems come to the fore. And boom a team that was expecting to go far or win is out. Like the Argos this year & us the past two years.
It would be easier to agree with you if our team got bounced in the first round, but we've been to 4 straight Grey Cups.
It would be easier to agree with you if our offence had been great in either of the two loses. But each game can equally be blamed on the offence not grinding the game out on the last drive and giving the ball back to the opposing team in the first place.
But continually being in 1st place in most defensive categories, while making the Grey Cup four straight years and holding teams in those Grey Cups to an average of 22 points, doesn't exactly scream defensive liability.
I 100% agree with you that we can always and should always be trying to improve. I just think you're making it out to be this easy thing to do and for some reason the Bombers are choosing not to, which is insane. We live in a salary cap world and right now, with our roster make-up, DT hasn't been a position we can spend up on. We fill it by recruiting and we've been doing a pretty good job at it.
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Just now, SpeedFlex27 said:
Whatever Jesse. No matter what I say you roll your eyes. Why don't you step up & challenge what I say instead of taking the chicken **** way out?? 🙄
I have. Along with others, you just kinda keep repeating the same thing.
You just seem to think we should be able to fill every roster spot with all stars and it's simply not possible. DT is a position that, for a number of years now, we need a guy playing on a minimum contract. Each guy we've played there has out played that contract and moved on via FA. Walters is continually scouting the position, will likely replace Walker with Fox and scout the guy who's going to replace Fox in 1 to 2 years. If that guy happens to be a huge guy who makes the all star team and appeases all of you, great. But he'll likely be gone via FA the next year anyway.
1 minute ago, Booch said:tell me about it lol
Same thing with you Booch. People do challenge what you say, (not necessarily the content, but that grand blanket statements that everything is exactly the way you say it is, all the time, with no room for variation) but then you just tell everyone they don't know what they're talking about and start firing off insults. People don't like the insults? Then you take your ball and go home.
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59 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
If Schoen wants to win a championship then he'll stay here. if he wants to follow his bestie to Ottawa & play for the worst organization in the CFL with no guarantees of being a winner then he can go to Ottawa to be with Brown & more power to him. Look how the RedBlacks sucked the life out of Jaelen Acklin. One of the top CFL receivers in Hamilton to an also ran receiver after 2 years in Ottawa. I wish Dalton all the luck in the world.
This is a job. He’ll go where he can make the most amount of money. We have certain incentives here that can bridge the gap a little, but that only stretches so far.
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1 hour ago, Goalie said:
Perhaps younger and hall have some differences in their approach
perhaps DL and DT in particular is one
I think the approach is we need someone playing near the minimum contract value at that position.
So while we’ll continue to scout the position, finding that impact player is difficult. In the meantime, we continue to have a top defence.
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1 minute ago, Colin Unger said:
So im not sure why you're acting like the bombers are so hidden on their offseason strategy. Basically they big-ticket elite guys like Brady, Schoen, Jefferson, Bryant ect.. These guys are top priority and they aren't going to hand out a bunch of raises to mid-level guys like Gray before they have some clarity on the big-ticket players.
Although they're starting to, so the clock is ticking.
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37 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:
Id like that too but how do we actually pull that if considering there's likely other teams out there willing to offer him a starting job and a pay rise?
Exactly. There's no situation where Gray is our 6th guy.
He was our starter last season over Dobson. Either he is back in that role or we let him walk and Dobson takes over.
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37 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
There were free agents we could have signed but we didn't. We could have made a trade. We've done nothing.
I’m honestly getting tired of seeing Stove’s name over and over. He’s done nothing but be injured since he’s left while we’ve been the top rated defence every year.
we’ve done nothing. Jesus. How can you even make that claim?
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7 hours ago, Tracker said:
What if the salaries of any starting NI over and above the minimum wouldn't count under the salary cap?
I’m sorry, but what about the coaches and operations cap makes you think that the CFL wants to increase spending?
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On 2024-01-17 at 7:07 PM, BigBlue said:
protecting our QBs is an awful thing ... worst ever thought?
They still need to be football players or we just need to scrap the whole thing and play flag football.
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15 hours ago, Colin Unger said:
Seems like there wasn't considerable interest in Brown. Ottawa basically willing to give up a 5th in order to get their QB situation sorted out ahead of free-agency. Winnipeg took what they could get.
Does anyone know who the team teams are that had the most Canadian snaps last year? Those two teams get an extra 2nd round pick.I know we're one of them. Ed Tait slipped it into one of his recent articles.
Winnipeg now has 10 selections in the 2024 CFL Draft — each of its picks in every round, a bonus in the second round, 20th overall, as a reward for snaps by Canadian players in 2023 and now Ottawa’s fifth-round choice, 40th overall, secured from the Brown trade. The Blue Bombers will pick 8th, 17th, 20th, 28th, 37th, 40th, 46th, 55th, 64th and 73rd overall.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/01/18/dru-brown-traded-to-ottawa-for-draft-pick/
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6 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Remember how Harris was doing here in 16 before they sorted out the OL by moving Bond in to guard, and Hardrick stepped up at RT?
O'Shea was about to get fired.
That's kind of the danger for Oliviera. And contracts aren't guaranteed.
His income outside of football is way larger here. He's a celebrity here. He might be in Sask too. Otherwise he'll be a nobody until he produces.
I don't see more than 3 teams giving him a call on Day 1 including the Bombers. Toronto, Sask, Winnipeg. And Toronto obviously wants to keep their own guy and if they do probably won't be interested.
I’ve been thinking BC, Sask, Winnipeg
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1 minute ago, Noeller said:
fwiw.... he follows this college team closely:
The only thing keeping me from getting too excited is that he's an older prospect, but obviously not unusual for a CFL QB.
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Just now, Fatty Liver said:
The Als also pay Natl. receiver Kaion Julien-Grant around $170k, so they might not be interested in pursuing Schoen.
And we pay Kenny, and Demski, and still want to sign Schoen. Teams can afford multiple high end receiving contracts.
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15 minutes ago, GCn20 said:
I think the 200k number is just a media creation based on the fact that most of them have the math skills of a 3 year old.
I said 200 just because it seems to be a milestone between BO's reported ask and what we'd reasonably want to sign him for.
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3 minutes ago, GCn20 said:
For sure. For every player we don't sign you have to subtract at the minimum the CFL minimum salary to calculate SMS relief. Mike Miller, for instance, was making 120k. If we replace him with a rookie our savings are 55k or thereabouts.
And we now have 10 draft picks, so maybe there's some potential to replace some depth/STers with a few more minimum contracts.
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Just now, GCn20 said:
I hear ya, but certainly Montreal is keenly aware of who Dalton Schoen is and what his main strength is and are keenly aware of what Cody Fajardo's flaw fatale is. Knowing that do you go out and pay Schoen 250-300k when you know he isn't really a great fit with your QB?
IMO, he's a great fit. We disagree on that point.
Hopefully, its a moot point and he's about to re-sign with us.
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14 minutes ago, GCn20 said:
Sure he will accommodate. Question is how much does that accommodation hurt his production and over all effectiveness.
Severely.
I'm talking about Montreal's desire for him - not the best place for his individual production.
He's going to do his own personal cost/benefit of individual production/salary/living expenses/etc.
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1 minute ago, Mike said:
None of your math makes sense either. people forget the roster spot has to be filled anyways
There is never as much saved space as people try and project.
2023/2024 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread (BRADY’S BACK! DALTON’S BACK!)
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Almost as silly as telling people what they should care about.