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4 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said:
I hope you're right!
My fears are the dam started showing cracks last year (that anyone could see) and that the dam bursts this year.I feel like too many people are still trapped in the drought. They don't believe that the Bombers can actually be good. Every loss is a harbinger of doom. Every interception is Zach getting too old, every sack is the OL deteriorating. Ignoring the fact that we still placed first in almost every meaningful statistical category for the past 3 seasons.
We are a great team. Period. Full stop.
There are areas we can improve. First glance of the off season (early signings and coaching changes) shows me we are committed to making those improvements.
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1 minute ago, Dr Zaius said:
Same. And it scares me.
Committing to a core who hasn't been able to get it done. What are we, the Toronto Maple Leafs?I feel the opposite way you do. I'm quite excited to bring back as much of the core as we can.
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2 hours ago, Tracker said:
Looks like the 2024 Bombers are gonna look a lot different than the 2023 iteration.
I didn't really get that impression at all.
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2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
Kyle Walters throwing down and negotiating in the media. Love it. He's not ***** footing around this offseason.
He also confirmed in that article that Stanley Bryant wants to come back.
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8 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:
Oof, that’s a hefty price tag. Gotta wonder what that does to the market for Brown
I don't really think we can call that pricey. It's probably middle of the pack.
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5 hours ago, Stickem said:
Doesn't preclude him from asking for a trade.....been done before
...""Don't get your first line...You recall him being told he was the starter...or you don't believe he was told he was going to be the starter in 24'....which is it???
*I don’t recall.
sorry. Typo.
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1 hour ago, Stickem said:
Well I would like to know how Ford is feeling after being told HE would be the starter in 24'.....Don't recall any other qb. being told that and even if they were the feelings about their position with the club would definitely have taken a serious hit....The club may have no choice IF he asks for a trade and I would say his agent is advising him to do just that...especially considering the fact a few spots in the league could certainly use him as a no 1
I recall him being told that either, tbh. But he's under contract so he's the one who doesn't have a choice, really.
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1 hour ago, Stickem said:
So they're going to keep a disenchanted qb. on the roster....cuz that's the end result of the MBT signing....I see Ford being dealt or definitely hitting the road in fa next year
Tons of back ups want to be and feel they should be the starter. Teams don’t feel the need to trade them.
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11 minutes ago, Stickem said:
So another kick in the arse for Ford....He must be mulling over asking for a trade...He feels like he's starter material in this league and has somewhat proven that....Interesting going forward in Elks land and with the signing of the 'space cadet', I think you could safely say there's a qb. controversy in edm.
Not a controversy at all. Jones doesn’t see Ford as the starter and went out and got one.
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5 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:
I wonder how long Brady spends trying to get an NFL look. I wonder if the club has presented Schoen with a new deal and he's mulling it over or is Roadhouse going to wait to see what free agency offers?
I don't really know if the NFL thing is holding anything up. But both are probably looking for +++ dollars and Walters is doing his thing, trying to make it work.
If they're too far apart and it's not going to work, I don't know if we'll necessarily hear about it until much closer to FA.
I know that Darren Cameron's on vacation right now, if that means anything. Might be an off period for the office.
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1 hour ago, Noeller said:
and I think this is giving Corny FAR too much credit... he's shown nothing other than a strong arm, which I couldn't care less about. Show me you can read a defense AT ALL and maybe we can talk.... but he has never been able to do that. Some of the most mind-numbingly stupid decisions made over and over again.
He's at least as athletic as Prukop; bigger, stronger, faster.
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42 minutes ago, Dodge and Burn said:
It's been months in the making. Used to come and read this everyday.
Until it turned into a pee pee match in every thread.
Back to TEP till it gets back on track here.
Yup.
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49 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
Lurkers are worthless. Let them leave they don't contribute anything anyway.
Here is the problem... there are some people who will vehemently deny that oshea has roster management problems and some that will take that denial entirely too seriously.
Make no mistake, Mike oshea for being the best coach going had always had roster blind spots. Our roster usage was complete garbage last season. So I can understand why people get mad when it's denied. It's like denying the sky is blue. But it's also not as awful as some people think.
Bombers did play most of the year on hard mode last year with their roster usage.
Most posters start as lurkers until they feel comfortable enough contributing something.
But if you try and share a conflicting opinion and get smashed or threatened or ridiculed, it turns people away.
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18 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Man, the egos around this place... We just lost one of the best posters here who is knowledgeable about the game because some people just don't know when to stop. Congrats to everyone involved.
There was only one person with an ego who didn’t know when to stop, imo.
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13 minutes ago, wbbfan said:
Insert random over rated rider vet here * lol
Hes a talent guy. And will probably be cheap this off season. But idk if we are filling a wr spot, I wouldn’t want to pay more than the imp rookie base. We can find and develop WRs now. We’ve had tons of wr talent in camp the last few years. Bailey and woli can back fill a ton of catches too.
Tbh if we lost lawler or schoen for what ever reason, unless we have an elite guy available id rather fill internally and bring in another ni. We could very easily start another wr spot.
Also, I’d keep schoen over Brady. Even though Brady is my guy, just no comparison between an elite prime age wr and a rb with a few years and lots of Carries.
Rb has the shortest career length of any nfl position, despite the most play and production and the role being heavily split in the modern era. 2.5 years per career vs the league average of 3.3. the average retirement age for RBs is 27. The peak is well known to be 23-27. The 27th year is known as the cliff now.
Since 2010 only 11 RBs in the nfl have reached 28 and 29 years of age in the nfl. And those are improved numbers!
Brady is 27 next year. With out bad luck he likely has 1-2 years at a high level. Schoen likely has a good 5 years then a less steep decline after that too.
From a team-building perspective, I agree with you on Schoen over Brady.
But this isn't the NFL, there's no reason why Brady can't be effective for as long as Harris was. It's not like speed is his thing and losing a step will take him off the field.
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6 hours ago, Booch said:
Roll your eyes all u want @Jesse but it did
Osh doesn't make the decisions on getting rid of staff....plus he has a hard enough time sitting and underperforming player...or replacing a useless one with an actual one with use and upside
You seem to be very black and white person. But this is a shades of grey decision.
MOS didn't wake up one morning and fire Boudreau all on his own. But neither did Walters. They did their evaluations, had a conversation, and came to a decision.
If you want to sit there and tell everyone that MOS has zero input on his own staff and I will absolutely roll my eyes at you. It is simply another case of you manipulating every comment and piece of news into the exact same criticism over and over and over.
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18 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Nope. Stats don't lie. You look at what Allen did & accomplished & besides those two, who was better? If you can tell me I'd be interested.
Who threw for more than 72,000 yards during their career in the CFL? There's only been one & was he truly better?
How many qbs won 4 championships with 3 different teams in the Canadian Football or Pro Football HOF's? There are plenty of qbs who won multiple championships with one or 2 teams but 3 at different times??
How many qbs are undefeated as a champion 4 times?
How many qbs rushed for nearly 12,000 yards?
How many qbs had a hand in nearly 400 touchdowns running or passing?
I'd like to know your answer.
He accomplished so much over a long career. It is very impressive.
But looking season by season.
He passed for over 4000 yards two times. He passed for over 30 TDs two times. Even if you add in his rushing TDs, he only crossed the 30 TD mark 4 times total.
Flutie, for example played in the CFL for 8 seasons and surpassed 5000 yards and 30 TDs in 6 of them (every year he was the starter).
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1 minute ago, Noeller said:
This is what I mean by massively overrated. Allen is nowhere near those guys. Flutie and Moon are the two best to ever play the position up here and among the best to ever play football anywhere, period. Damon Allen is a guy who played a long time and rarely got hurt. Christ sakes.
One crazy person doesn't really equal overrated.
Playing football for that long is an accomplishment. And he had some very good seasons. And was probably the best athlete to ever play the position. I'm not going to sit here and say anything bad about him.
But is he in the TOP tier? Of course not.
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4 minutes ago, Jpan85 said:
That clears it up. Paul deleted the tweet so I wasn't sure if it was legit or not.
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19 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:
Mostly agree with Noeller. If you're rating him amongst the CFL's greatest based on his career stats then you are over rating the guy. Id rather have a qb who was great for 10 years and then another qb who was great for another 10 years then one qb who was good for 20. He's basically Vernon Adams if he would stay healthy and play a long time as his current level of play.
I don't think anyone puts Allen up there with Flutie and Moon, etc. though.
It seems less that he's overrated and more that Noeller wants to add a "yeah, but" anytime someone mentions his accomplishments.
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6 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Look at other HOF qbs from the 50's & 60's with their completion averages, interceptions & TD passes. Especially Ron Lancaster. His nimbers weren't great yet he made it.
Yeah, we can’t apply modern standards to previous eras. Many of the older QBs threw as many INTs as TDs with 50% passing completion %. There was not nearly as much focus on ball protection as there is now.
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