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Except for the first pass of the game which was a designed sprint-out, Drew Willy always seem to be locked into a 3 step drop. If he rolled a bit and moved the launch point, he'd give himself more options - including the option to run. Also, I agree our Oline gets manhandled and pushed back way to often. But on at least 3 of the 6 sacks the defender got into our backfield untouched. That is what happens when you don't properly identify the scheme you're facing. So it's mental, too, not just physical shortcomings. I think we also just got out-coached by a team with superior talent.

A treasure? Jesus Christ. He threw for more ints last year than tds and this season he's thrown away a game in Calgary and been a statistical winner and on field loser in the rest.

I've counted several times where Willy gets sacked and he's had 4+ steamboats of protection.

Co dell is in fact an extension of Austin. Two offensive minded coaches working in concert to design, develop and execute an offensive game plan. Isn't that a refreshing idea?

Sometimes it's just easier to admit that we lost to a better team. We aren't as good as the ticats. It's that simple. But 28 points I believe were off turnovers so you can say we killed ourselves. People blaming coaches always to me screams never played a team sport ever. Coaches coach. Players play however with that said I do think our OC is part of the problem

I like Jamaal Westerman

IMO Kohlert, Feoli-Gudino and probably the couple younger Canadians are far better receivers than Gordon and this point. He looked like he had no clue on how to run his routes to get open in both preseason games and definitely no clue on how to adjust his routes to get open based on the coverage being played. Natural skills for sure, but I don't think he's on the team to play this season unless there is a desperate injury situation.Also with Stoudermire I'd let him get his special teams job sorted out before I burden him with any kind of role on offense.
Better to use that import spot on D. It's not like you're wasting that import spot by starting 8 Canadians, allows flexibility at DL and LB, which is needed because our DL is extremely thin on talent right now, at least keep the guys fresh so we get their best 35-40 snaps.

Aug. 9
Hamilton - Injuries - Butler 1 game IR, Fantuz and Gable 6 game IR
2015 Meeting #1: (Hamilton 52 at Winnipeg 26)
- The key event turning the first meeting of the season was when Winnipeg QB Drew Willy went down after just 12 offensive plays and the end of their third possession. When Willy left the score was 10-7 Hamilton, and within 11:00 of play that had moved to 38-7.
HOME Team Notes & Trends - HAMILTON:
- Unbeaten at Tim Hortons Field: Since moving into Tim Hortons Field on September 1, 2014 vs Toronto, the Tiger-Cats have
played 7 regular season games and gone a perfect 7-0. Here are some updated facts & figures about the THF streak:
- The Crowd Effect Updated: Offside-Procedure-Time Count Penalties Hamilton 17, Opponents 28. No game demonstrated this trend better than last week when Toronto was flagged 7 times for offside-procedure calls to Hamilton’s 3.
- 20+ Leads: IN 3 of the 7 games at THF, the Ti-Cats have established a 20-point or better lead.
- Q4: The real key to the 7 wins has been an overwhelming scoring edge in the 4th Quarter of 57-23 (+34).
- Q4: Hamilton has yet to be outscored in any 4th Quarter at Tim Horton’s with 4 shutouts.
- Since 2002: The 7-game win streak is their longest at home since an 11-game winning run in 2001-2002. - Defence: Opponents have averaged only 13.0 points in 7 games and made 8 more T/Os than Hamilton.
- Opponent Offensive TDs: Hamilton has allowed only 7 opponent offensive TD drives in 7 games at THF.
- CFL Record Pace Penalties: Hamilton drew 12 penalties in last week’s game, and are now tied for last with Toronto at 14.60 per game. At that pace, the Ti-Cats would just surpass the CFL’s all-time record for most penalties in a single season. They are on pace to draw 263 penalties in 2015; one more call than Hamilton themselves drew in 2004 at 14.56 per game (262 total).
- Creating multiple first down drives: Of the 62 possessions that Hamilton has had thus far, they have created multiple first downs on 31 of them – or exactly half (does not include possessions where they simply take a knee). They are #2 at 29 yards per drive.
- Amazing streak: The Ti-Cats lead the CFL in 2nd down conversions at 59.5% including the Edmonton at BC game this week. What is remarkable is that Hamilton has been 50% or better in all 5 games (better than 55% actually). Hamilton went above 50% in only three games all of last year. NO CFL TEAM HAS GONE MORE THAN 5 GAMES IN A ROW SINCE 2011.
- Luke Tasker 7 of 7: The 2014 Eastern All-Star returned last week and was targeted 7 times against Toronto. He caught all 7 pases for 73 yards, three of which were key 2nd down conversion catches. Of his 73 yards, 30 came after the catch.
- Two-and-outs: In their five games this year, Hamilton has only 15 two-&-outs (3.0 per game) compared to 38 in the first five games last season (7.6 per game). Hamilton has the fewest two-&-outs in the CFL.
- Last Week vs Toronto: The Argos outgained Hamilton 431 yards to 279, had 7 more first downs, threw for 389 yards and controlled the ball for 31:52. These are all solid indicators for a win and yet – Hamilton won 34-18. The key was 5-1 turnover advantage, all 5 of which came in the second half.
- No interceptions of late: After throwing 3 interceptions on Jul 16/15 vs Montreal, Zach Collaros had none in the last two games and none in his last 58 pass attempts.
VISITING Team Notes & Trends - WINNIPEG:
Injuries - Moore, Newman, Gibson, Richards - 1 game IR
- Drew Willy a Key: Twice this season so far, the Bombers have lost starting QB Drew Willy mid-game. Here are the game scores before and after Willy left the game with the result that when he has been in the game the Bombers have had a 113-102 scoring edge (+11). When he has been sidelined, Winnipeg has been outscored 70-19 (-51).
In 2015, with Willy in charge of their offence, the Bombers have averaged 26.3 yards per drive, without him that average drops by 59% to just 15.6 yards per drive. Last week, Willy led them to 389 yards of offence vs BC in only 11 possessions.
- Drew Willy #1: The Bombers starting QB held the CFL’s highest passer rating through Week #6 at 113.3. last week, he did not throw an interceptions and completed 17-of-25 passes for 269 yards and 2 TDs. Last week, he rushed for a career-high 72 yards vs BC on just 5 attempts. Of those 5 carries, 4 went for 10+ yards.
- Close games: The Bombers have had a series of close games this year, three to be exact settled by 1, 2 and 4 points. At the other end two have been decided by two of the CFL’s three largest margins for 2015 – decisions by 26 and 29 points.
- Turnover Ratio: In their three wins Winnipeg has a T/O Ratio of +8, in their three defeats they are -5. Since 2009, they have gone 32-8 (.800) when making less turnovers, and only 8-66 (.108) when do not win the T/O battle.
- Darvin Adams: In his last three games, Adams has recorded two of 120+ receiving yards. Last week, he caught just 4 passes but turned that into 127 yards with an effort that earned 62 YAC and a TD.
- Paris Cotton: Started off the year with 154 rushing yards on 22 carries in the first two games. Since then in 4 games, he has had only 102 yards on 31 carries for a 3.3 yard average.
- Lirim Hajrullahu 3-for-3: Made all three of his FG attempts vs BC last week on the heels of a two-game span where he was successful on only 2-of-5 tries. His three misses in 2015 have all come from 42+yards.His punts shave trapped opponents inside their 20-yard line 13 times thus far in 2015.
- Kahlil Bass: Led all CFL defenders with 10 tackles last week vs BC.
- Denmark: Clarence Denmark has been held to just 6 catches for 23 yards in the last two games despite 13 targets.

Jones is absolutely full of himself. 

Beaird was a fire hydrant on legs, along with Richard Crump they were pretty good together.

What did you think of the hit Glenn took before half time? Right under the chin with a helmet, was really wondering why that wasn't a call.  The worst call/ non-call in the Bomber game IMO was the first interception by Brohm. One edm defending shielded the receiver away from the ball and the other caught it. If that isn't pass interference I don't know what is. Pathetic that the Esks get those calls. Later on O'Shea had to challenge to get the other interference call on another int by the Esks. Jones gets those calls the same way Buono and Mathews used to because they stand there and chew on the refs the whole game on the sidelines so the refs give them the calls. Quiet coaches like O"shea and Chamblin aren't getting the close calls because the refs know they won't biatch about it. IMHO

Honestly can't envision any scenario where the Bombers lose tonight. It is going to be a blowout. Can't wait to kick back with a tall cool Budweiser and watch the Lions get thumped.

It's the same feeling as sitting on a warm toilet seat. It provokes mixed emotions ... still ahead of Sask but, you know, below Redblacks.
 
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/cfl/cfl-power-rankings-week-5-1.3171411
 
 

It's the same feeling as sitting on a warm toilet seat. It provokes mixed emotions ... still ahead of Sask but, you know, below Redblacks.
 
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/cfl/cfl-power-rankings-week-5-1.3171411
 
 

It'll be interesting to compare Winnipeg vs BC offenses this Thursday. It's no coincidence that the most dynamic offences in the CFL are run by scambler style QBs: Collaros, Mitchell, Lulay, Harris. Guys who can make plays with their feet as well as via the toss. It's exciting to watch. These teams: Calgary, Ham, BC and Argos also all are coached by ex-QBs. Meanwhile in Winnipeg, (where our coaching and management braintrust comes from the D side of the ball) we are plodding along with an offence designed around a pair of 3-step drop pocket passers in Willy and Brohm. Fans are calling for a more dynamic QB such as Robert Marve because our offensive structure, built around a limited style of QB, has basically failed. Now is the time to re-design the offence to accommodate more of a Bo-Levi or Collaros-Lulay type of QB so Marve can play a bit and give the fans some excitement. I say go for it now even if it means abandoning an offensive structure that's better suited for our #1 and #2 QBs. After all, this is the wide-open CFL. Why should we have to wait til next year and the inevitable changes that will come from another losing season, because Bomber brass were too stubborn to switch away from an old-school offence that's designed around a style of QB that's essentially ill-suited for the CFL?

In fairness to Brohm, he did look much more composed for the one game that he was the designated starter last year before he was injured.  With a short week and only one practice session the odds of him improving dramatically for BC are slim.

It's pretty obvious you have an agenda. You're not quite at the point of making stuff up, but whenever Brohm is brought up, you make excuses for his lackluster play and whenever Willy is brought up, not only do you downplay his abilities, you go as far as padding your valid points with a bunch of nonsense just to try and get extra jabs in at the guy.
 
I literally saw you downplay Willy's numbers in the pouring rain and criticize him for not being productive and then when someone pointed out that he was playing in a torrential downpour, you ignored it entirely.
Then the next day, when talking about Brohm's performance in the same game, you let him off the hook because of the weather even though it wasn't even raining when he played.
 
If that's not having an agenda, I don't know what is.
 
On top of that - I keep seeing you mention "exciting" ... is Ricky Ray not exciting? Because that's the mold Drew Willy fits into. Is he Ricky Ray? No, but he's getting there and that's the style of pro QB he is. I feel like you don't like Willy because he doesn't dance around and get you out of your seat. The most exciting thing to me is winning, I don't care how the guy gets there to do it and the truth is, Drew Willy can and will be a winning QB in this league when they give him the best possible chance to succeed (which will basically be when our OC stops making dogshit play calls)

I like how for all intents and purposes, you just eliminated Willy from the equation to push your agenda further ahead despite the fact that he's been equally productive to pretty much every single one of those quarterbacks.
 
Willy is throwing touchdowns at a higher clip than Collaros and Bo Levi, he's throwing interceptions less often than those two AND Harris, he's completing a higher rate of his passes than every one of them but Harris and on top of that, his yardage per attempt is the highest of the bunch.
 
You can keep pushing your agenda all you want, QB talent can succeed in this league in many different ways. As long as the talent is there, the production can be as well. Willy's biggest issue right now is that his play caller blows. But please ... keep telling me more about how Drew Willy is not the "right type of CFL QB"

Good points, I imagine Marcel's time in Mtl. attempting to defend Calvillo has greatly influenced his choice of systems.  Unfortunately with his skill-set Drew Willy has little hope of being anything other than a 3 step drop back QB.

You've been harping on about Willy taking too long to throw forever now and while you're not wrong and I would like to see him speed up his progressions, you ignore the fact that he already has sped up his progressions substantially in the past year. You also feel the need to couple your justified criticism with nonsense like he takes too long between snaps (which often has shared fault and really, you're just saying this because of TWO instances), he can't get into a rhythm (he's completing 75% of his passes, so that indicates he's doing his part just fine), no ability to sustain a drive (got one of the lowest two-and-out rates in the league and has already manufactured 5 8+ play scoring drives in 15 quarters of play, which again is an above average rate) and not having the "6th sense" (which you have no clue about, to be entirely honest ... unless you're in the huddle of course)

Yup -  the 2nd and 3 play where Cotton (only guy in backfield) takes a deep handoff, and runs into 6 guys....

Its not one thing right now- its almost everything. Passing, running, kicking, returning kicks, defence, coaching....

Willy did not look like he could win even before he went down. If Marve isn't better than Brohm, Marve ought to be replaced by jordan Yantz immediately.

I want to see Chris Jones look sadder than Danny M after the Milt Miracle.

Weather has turned a bit better. Only 30% chance of rain now....
Working till 1:30 then heading up with 17to85 and Coorsman. Here's to a first win at Commwealth since Milt's Miracle...