bluto

did you channel Nate for this?

Hop City makes a beer that 2 of my Bros are very enthusiastic about called Barking Squirrel Lager

not so fast
 

one that looks like if Bieber and Zyzz had a lovechild ought to do.

Figured I'd make this thread since I always point out that "advanced" statistics do NOT favor Buck Pierce when comparing him against other quarterbacks. I'll try and update this weekly just to keep it current especially with Hall playing this week to add another comparison.
 
What I looked at mostly was % of two and outs, average offense per drive, points per possession, etc. For the sake of continuity, when I tally this stuff up, I counted a turnover prior to a first down being gained as a two and out but a turnover after a first down had been gained was not.
 
Here's what I came up with:
 
Week 1
Buck Pierce - 19 possessions, 12 two and outs (63%), 3 turnovers, 2 touchdowns
Average points per possession - 0.94
Average yardage per possession - 16.26 yards (longest 73 yards)
 
Week 2
Buck Pierce - 18 possessions, 8 two and outs (44%), 3 turnovers, 2 touchdowns
Average points per possession - 1
Average yardage per possession - 20.1 yards (longest 105 yards)
 
Justin Goltz - 1 possession, 1 two and out, 1 turnover
Average points per possession - 0
Average yardage per possession - 4 (longest 4 yards)
 
Week 3
Buck Pierce - 15 possessions, 6 two and outs (40%), 3 touchdowns
Average points per possession - 1.2
Average yardage per possession - 22.6 (longest 92 yards)
 
One thing I will point out, although the stats are what they are ... All 6 of the two and outs in this game were in the second half, where we had 8 possessions. That's horrible second half efficiency. In fact, aside from a 92 yard drive while Hamilton was playing prevent, our net offense in the second half of this game was -7 yards.
 
Week 4
Buck Pierce - 8 possessions, 5 two and outs (62%), 1 turnover
Average points per possession - 0.75
Average yardage per possession - 20.62 (longest 65 yards)
 
Justin Goltz - 7 possessions, 2 two and outs (28%), 1 turnover
Average points per possession - 1.28
Average yardage per possession - 29 (longest 64 yards)
 
Week 5
Justin Goltz - 13 possessions, 6 two and outs (46%), 1 turnover, 3 touchdowns
Average points per possession - 1.61
Average yardage per possession - 25.23 (longest 80 yards)
 
Week 6
Justin Goltz - 15 possessions, 5 two and outs (33%), 1 turnover, 2 touchdowns
Average points per possession - 1.2
Average yardage per possession - 17.2 (longest 41 yards)
 
Week 8
Max Hall - 14 possessions, 6 two and outs (42%), 3 turnovers, 1 touchdown
Average points per possession - 0.64
Average yardage per possession - 23.92 (longest 103 yards)
 
Buck Pierce - 1 possession, 1 two and out (100%)
Average points per possession - 0
Average yardage per possession - 9 (longest 9 yards)
 
2013 totals to date
Buck Pierce - 61 possessions, 32 two and outs (52.4%), 7 turnovers (11.4%), 7 touchdowns (11.4%)
Average points per possession - 0.98
Average yardage per possession - 19.58 yards
 
Justin Goltz - 36 possessions, 14 two and outs (38.8%), 4 turnovers, (11.1%), 5 touchdowns (13.8%)
Average points per possession - 1.14
Average yardage per possession - 21.91 yards
 
Max Hall - 14 possessions, 6 two and outs (42%), 3 turnovers (21%), 1 touchdown (7%)
Average points per possession - 0.64
Average yardage per possession - 23.92

Well for starters, the feel good story about a homeless man turned professional athlete ...
 

Yeh but you're playing Edmonton this week

very interesting presser. Miller was in a very clear way, implying that the Bomber system was broken and needed to be addressed tout de suite.
 
Miller: "Kyle's in charge of running the football operations and working in that and this is a change that this organization is going through where we actually work together and proper people are making the right decisions now in terms of players, of who's playing each week."
 
that quote came out of the discussion about asking Walters who would be setting the depth chart. Miller's answer clearly implies that it was not always the HC who had final authority in that matter before and that Mack was sticking his nose in Burke's beeswax.
 
 
all in all, it was a good move by Miller to do this. the company he's in charge of appeared like a gongshow with nobody in charge. Miller has shown that not only is he in charge, but that he has clearly delineated and communicated the roles of his subordinates. very astute of him and very un-Bomberlike.

This whole thing is insane. So far I give the Miller regime 1 "You go girl" boosters out of 5.
Any truth to the rumor that Marcel is going to consult on the coaches show as well?
Burke: opens his mouth
Marcel: shakes his head slowly

so... i just got home from my seminar... anything interesting happen today?

best summation of the situation i've read. it's an offence that seemingly has no core philosophy or tenets. no identity.

feeling your age there oldtimer?

I'd sell you my late eighties #63 but I'd worry that Chris Walby would get hit by lightning or be carried away by a tornado or something.

You gotta spend money to make money. They went big with the stadium and the on field product is not up to snuff.
they are going to lose more money with a shitty team in an expensive stadium than they will paying out the nose for a marquee GM.
in the off season they need to go to Popp and Buano and huffnagle and say here is a cheque, write a numner down. You can do whatever you want and hire whoever you want. you will be known as the person who finally turned around a listless franchise.
and then they need to sell it to the fans and beg them to come back. because the stands are going to be pretty bare for the rest of '13

their personnel on D needs a minor overhaul, but Orlondo is going to get the most out of what they have. they'll still get lit up from time to time, but i think they'll get fractionally better from week to week. by the time they play @ Molson in the ESF, they may pull off an upset.

Just what the F&^K are you trying to say here dumbass?!

are you just looking at things and saying you love them?
 

Just wanted to make note of the fact that we passed 10000 posts earlier this morning as a community.
 
Good job guys, we've slowly built ourselves a pretty awesome little place to talk Bombers in a really short period of time.
 
Also wanted to say thanks to everyone for making the moderator position here a really easy one. It's been great so far.

Montreal seems the most likely to work their way off of that list.  The others will be fighting for the last playoff spot IMHO.

it's absolutely ridiculous that they have to have games on tuesday night. I'm going to assume that's a bluejays reason for this? Argos gotta get their own stadium built so this insanity doesn't happen anymore. 

Also that site still doesn't fill up my widescreen monitor  lol

bolded part 1: for some posters here who know better, that comment will likely have made them chuckle. funny stories there.
 
bolded part 2: nailed it. it was always about the community... not the site. and most of the posters who defined that site's community are here (many of them exclusively).

Goltz was a threat to run yet we never exploited that once. He wasn't any kind of threat in the zone read. We need to make the defense account for him. Right now, it's 12 on 11.