Mr. Perfect Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 And your quarterback is making his first career start, ideally, how many times would you want to run the ball in the first half? For the record, Simpson had 4 carries in that situation. Great work Crowton! Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaincanuck12 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Crowton is a terrible coordinator. Maybe Lapo was trying fix the garbage that Crowton was spewing. I'm so sick of these anemic offense schemes and lack of imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Crowton is a terrible coordinator. Maybe Lapo was trying fix the garbage that Crowton was spewing. I'm so sick of these anemic offense schemes and lack of imagination. while i'm not a fan of Crowton, our offense didn't look much better with Lapo pre 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Can't really houseclean if we have a shot at Dickenson next season. But if we fire crowton now who replaces him? Lapo? Berry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Offensively, Goltz was impatient at times trying to get the big play instead of being patient. He needs to be willing to have more ball control type of drives. We need to get 5-7 yards on first down. makes it easier to convert on 2nd down. Simpson was much better running the football. Taking time off the clock is important. On defense, we don't blitz. No pressure on the qb. All kinds of time to throw. Our secondary is in constant chase mode because of it. Mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Can't really houseclean if we have a shot at Dickenson next season. But if we fire crowton now who replaces him? Lapo? Berry? Berry is with Montreal. LaPo will never come back with Mack here. Why should he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Goltz was 9/15 for 95 yards and 2 TDs at the half and the offense was moving the ball well in the second quarter. Simpson also had 40 yards of total offense (most of his receiving yards are on short dump offs - basically extended hand offs). Crowton would be getting killed here either way, no matter if he passes or throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 We need better production from our import receivers, Edwards, Denmark and Anderson just don't cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I thought Anderson was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted July 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 It's not like our receivers are dropping balls. The onus is on the QB's, and the OC to design a way to get them the ball. The receivers don't have magic wands that make the balls be where they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Goltz was a threat to run yet we never exploited that once. He wasn't any kind of threat in the zone read. We need to make the defense account for him. Right now, it's 12 on 11. bluto, pigseye and Blue-urns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I thought Anderson was pretty good. anderson dropped a few passes tonight. I thought Edwards was OK except for a few where he did his giving up to try and draw the PI thing. Denmark didn't stand out much but I think a lot of that was the success of Kohlert and Etienne and to an extent Edwards. Just not enough passes thrown to get every receiver big numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinBlue Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Edwards was pretty bad overall, trying to hard to draw penalties not trying hard enough to run his routes and finish them. Heck one of Goltz passes was at his knees and he could easily caught it but chose to bat it down because he was gonna get nailed. Sad as it is he should start taking notes from Kohlert and Etienne or he'll be out of a job fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Goltz was a threat to run yet we never exploited that once. He wasn't any kind of threat in the zone read. We need to make the defense account for him. Right now, it's 12 on 11. Doug Brown and half the city agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Doug Brown and half the city agree with you. When you play teams with qbs like Burris, Durant & Lulay they are tougher to scheme because they have to be accounted for. It's actually 12 on 12 & not 11 on 12. AC & Ray are so good at getting the ball away & finding the open man that it doesn't matter if they aren't accounted for. Our qbs aren't a threat to run or pick a defense apart so teams can scheme them easier & have little or no fear of big plays from the qb position. Not using the option off of the zone read by the Bombers tonight with an athletic ab by Goltz??? Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaincanuck12 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 while i'm not a fan of Crowton, our offense didn't look much better with Lapo pre 2012. I wasn't actually trying to imply Lapo offence was any better. Just that may be the reason Lapo was constantly tinkering with the O. As much as i like to see Croston canned, constantly firing coaches isn't the answer. All I know is that guys like Chad Simpson will not want to play here much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinBlue Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Guys like Chad Simpson should stop leaving guaranteed first downs on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskbluefan Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Somebody has to eat the salad. It's not going to be Joe. Not yet. So Crowton will follow Baressi and and Lapo out the door. Someday they'll be no one left to scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 As much as i like to see Croston canned, constantly firing coaches isn't the answer. Sigh, that's why the team is so inept. No accountability. Let's just keep working with failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyOnTheSpot Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 while i'm not a fan of Crowton, our offense didn't look much better with Lapo pre 2012. The same offense worked well enough in Regina that they got to a Grey Cup and convinced Mack that LaPo was one of the great young offensive minds in the league. Are you saying Mack was fooled? I recall the fans at the time loved the hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 The same offense worked well enough in Regina that they got to a Grey Cup and convinced Mack that LaPo was one of the great young offensive minds in the league. Are you saying Mack was fooled? I recall the fans at the time loved the hire. yes Mack was fooled. Some fans loved the hire some hated it because they remembered running Lapo out of town years earlier when his offense with Khari Jones, Milt Stegall, Charles Roberts etc etc was really unimaginative and the only reason it worked was because Roberts and Sellers and Jones and Stegall could make plays with anything. Once we had Stegall and Roberts hurt the offense disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 And your quarterback is making his first career start, ideally, how many times would you want to run the ball in the first half? For the record, Simpson had 4 carries in that situation. Great work Crowton! The most productive time for the offense was the last 7 games of last season, when Buck was in the booth with the headset on. Now if you ask me, you could pretty much take any former CFL QB and ask them to call the plays from Crowtons play book and it would be an improvement. JohnnyOnTheSpot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 anderson dropped a few passes tonight. I thought Edwards was OK except for a few where he did his giving up to try and draw the PI thing. Denmark didn't stand out much but I think a lot of that was the success of Kohlert and Etienne and to an extent Edwards. Just not enough passes thrown to get every receiver big numbers. There's no reason why Anderson should be on the roster over Pierce. The 3 drops were brutal. First day of football practice in your life you learn to catch the ball with your hands, not your body. We had no big targets, our biggest receivers were Etienne and Kohlert, putting a 5'9 guy who can't battle a DB at boundary WR (Anderson), really limited our offence. Denmark would have made more sense out of the guys we had dressed, but really why wasn't D Pierce dressed? Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 There's no reason why Anderson should be on the roster over Pierce. The 3 drops were brutal. First day of football practice in your life you learn to catch the ball with your hands, not your body. We had no big targets, our biggest receivers were Etienne and Kohlert, putting a 5'9 guy who can't battle a DB at boundary WR (Anderson), really limited our offence. Denmark would have made more sense out of the guys we had dressed, but really why wasn't D Pierce dressed? I agree, I asked during the game what Burkes infatuation with Anderson is cause I just don't see it. He's like Denmark but without as good hands.... Yet Denmark is in the doghouse for whatever reason and Anderson plays without fail despite not ever really doing a lot to really earn his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Zone read all day. Every time we ran it there was a positive play, running and passing. Since Goltz is a threat with his legs he draws the playside end and LB, since he is a threat with his arm they aren't stacking the box and the lanes were there for Simpson, you get the HB's and safety peeking in and there are openings for the receivers. The triple threat factor makes the defense pause and then our offence can make plays. It was working incredibly well on the scoring drives, then we went back to straight drop back passing and stalled. I really thought they found a rhythm on the scoring drives, and they were flat out beating Calgary's defense, they were off-balance, then the play calling went away from what worked and our defense couldn't get off the field. Floyd and Blue-urns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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